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Kilo · Post #521 » by **Kilo** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:09 pm

Rockets trying to clear open some cap space - Terrence Jones could be dealt it sounds like for cap room - We better be interested.

I always get confused when talking about moving around in the draft - if a team is looking to move down are they looking to move to a better pick or a worse pick. Move down from six to nine or move down from six to three? Same with "moving up"...

Woj is saying Sacto is looking to move back in the top 10 - if so, we should look to leapfrog Denver here (and Sacto for that matter as both could be sniping our dudes). I assume it would only cost taking on a salary/contract. I'd do that to move up to #6 as it opens up a whole lotta better doors for us.

bballnmike · Post #522 » by **bballnmike** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Kilo wrote:Rockets trying to clear open some cap space - Terrence Jones could be dealt it sounds like for cap room - We better be interested.

I always get confused when talking about moving around in the draft - if a team is looking to move down are they looking to move to a better pick or a worse pick. Move down from six to nine or move down from six to three? Same with "moving up"...

Woj is saying Sacto is looking to move back in the top 10 - if so, we should look to leapfrog Denver here (and Sacto for that matter as both could be sniping our dudes). I assume it would only cost taking on a salary/contract. I'd do that to move up to #6 as it opens up a whole lotta better doors for us.

Move down = later draft pick.
Move up = earlier draft pick.

ElectricMayhem · Post #523 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:48 am

If the Wiretap is true and the Knicks are 'very likely' to sign West, then where does Monroe go? The Knicks will have both Porzingis and West along with whatever other crap they had in the frontcourt. Signing both West and Monroe seems unlikely.

sc8581 · Post #524 » by **sc8581** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:30 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:If the Wiretap is true and the Knicks are 'very likely' to sign West, then where does Monroe go? The Knicks will have both Porzingis and West along with whatever other crap they had in the frontcourt. Signing both West and Monroe seems unlikely.

West probably signs a 2 year deal since Porzingis is at least a year or two away. That being said, Moose, West and Carmelo defending the p&r is laughable at best, they will score though.

joedumars1 · Post #525 » by **joedumars1** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:40 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:If the Wiretap is true and the Knicks are 'very likely' to sign West, then where does Monroe go? The Knicks will have both Porzingis and West along with whatever other crap they had in the frontcourt. Signing both West and Monroe seems unlikely.

Shouldn't change much, Greg is a Center, West and Porz are PF

Post #526 » by **Snakebites** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:27 am

Yeah, I actually think Monroe fits pretty well in that scenario. Knicks are probably the front runners for him, but other teams will be in the mix too. The Lakers are suddenly a possibility again now that Okafor is not in that picture.

Piston Pete · Post #527 » by **Piston Pete** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:35 am

Sixers are so crappy.

They already have Embiid and Noel. Adding Okafor? OK, I get that....

But they go on to draft two MORE C's and 2 MORE PF's. lol They deserve to be terrible, like, forever!

ComboGuardCity · Post #528 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:36 pm

Monroe meeting with the lakers, blazers, Celtics, Knicks. Hope he signs with Boston.

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ImHeisenberg · Post #529 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:34 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:Monroe meeting with the lakers, blazers, Celtics, Knicks. Hope he signs with Boston.

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I'm curious if Monroe is just going to take the biggest offer, or consider the situation as well? I could see him going to LA to play with Kobe and Russell. But, LA won't go after him until Love and Aldridge are off the board.

Boston probably does provide him the best opportunity to make the playoffs next year though.

Kilo · Post #530 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:42 pm

I don't think Monroe is a LA or NYC kind of dude. I think he'd be a much better personality fit in Portland or Boston - I see these two teams making Monroe their primary target, while LAL and NYK woo LMA, Gasol, Love types.

DBC10 · Post #531 » by **DBC10** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:55 pm

Portland seems like a great fit for Moose.

Post #532 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:00 pm

Does Boston have enough cap to sign both Monroe and Harris?

If not, I'm definitely rooting for them to land Monroe. Its not about caring where he ends up, its about what serves our interests best.

Kilo · Post #533 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:05 pm

I think Boston has very close to $30M but only 9 players signed to that 37M. So with cap holds and the like I think they'd be just under being able to max out both.

I think the best plan of attack is a S&T with Orlando to get Harris. If they're on the fence about matching, given them a little something to help them decide to let him go. Lotto protected first (ie top 14) is a good deal for us still IMO because we only lose the pick if we make the play-offs. Say Harris was signed long term and Orlando asked for a 16th overall pick for him - would we do it? What pick did Tim Hardaway Jr get moved for this recent draft?

sc8581 · Post #534 » by **sc8581** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:14 pm

Can't wait to see Monroe vs Drummond next year, as soon as Moose signs I will be marking my calendar.

ComboGuardCity · Post #535 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:34 pm

Kilo wrote:I think Boston has very close to $30M but only 9 players signed to that 37M. So with cap holds and the like I think they'd be just under being able to max out both.

I think the best plan of attack is a S&T with Orlando to get Harris. If they're on the fence about matching, given them a little something to help them decide to let him go. Lotto protected first (ie top 14) is a good deal for us still IMO because we only lose the pick if we make the play-offs. Say Harris was signed long term and Orlando asked for a 16th overall pick for him - would we do it? What pick did Tim Hardaway Jr get moved for this recent draft?

And gores can buy a pick in that range.

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Blkbrd671 · Post #536 » by **Blkbrd671** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:27 am

Snakebites wrote:Does Boston have enough cap to sign both Monroe and Harris?

If not, I'm definitely rooting for them to land Monroe. Its not about caring where he ends up, its about what serves our interests best.

Lol, this

Detroit vs Everybody

Blkbrd671 · Post #537 » by **Blkbrd671** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:30 am

Kilo wrote:I think Boston has very close to $30M but only 9 players signed to that 37M. So with cap holds and the like I think they'd be just under being able to max out both.

I think the best plan of attack is a S&T with Orlando to get Harris. If they're on the fence about matching, given them a little something to help them decide to let him go. Lotto protected first (ie top 14) is a good deal for us still IMO because we only lose the pick if we make the play-offs. Say Harris was signed long term and Orlando asked for a 16th overall pick for him - would we do it? What pick did Tim Hardaway Jr get moved for this recent draft?

If we are offering the same amount as Boston , I have a hard time believing Harris wants to play for Boston over us. Our system is much more Taylor'd to his playing style. Yes I am bias d but Boston doesn't have a clear direction . Just a lot of good pieces

Detroit vs Everybody

Post #538 » by **Snakebites** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:00 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
Kilo wrote:I think Boston has very close to $30M but only 9 players signed to that 37M. So with cap holds and the like I think they'd be just under being able to max out both.

I think the best plan of attack is a S&T with Orlando to get Harris. If they're on the fence about matching, given them a little something to help them decide to let him go. Lotto protected first (ie top 14) is a good deal for us still IMO because we only lose the pick if we make the play-offs. Say Harris was signed long term and Orlando asked for a 16th overall pick for him - would we do it? What pick did Tim Hardaway Jr get moved for this recent draft?

If we are offering the same amount as Boston , I have a hard time believing Harris wants to play for Boston over us. Our system is much more Taylor'd to his playing style. Yes I am bias d but Boston doesn't have a clear direction . Just a lot of good pieces

Detroit vs Everybody

Players don't always think like that, though.

ComboGuardCity · Post #539 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:24 am

Boston is a pretty cool city with a killer legacy. If anything Tobias would prefer that to be closer to NYC.

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Post #540 » by **Snakebites** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:27 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Boston is a pretty cool city with a killer legacy. If anything Tobias would prefer that to be closer to NYC.

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Yeah, I think its inaccurate to call Boston a similar market to Detroit even if the cities are comparable in size.