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Post#521 » by Pharaoh » Thu Aug 4, 2016 3:06 am

Snakebites wrote:Reports are that the Thunder and Westbrook are making progress on an extension.

I hope that's true. Don't think I could stomach him on the Celtics.


Ditto!

I'd prefer Westy to stay outta the East tbh
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Post#522 » by Cowology » Thu Aug 4, 2016 6:58 pm

I don't even care about Westbrook staying out of the East, I'm just happy to see OKC hang onto one of their stars and for Westbrook to commit to helping them continue winning. That's good for the city of Oklahoma and good for the NBA.
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Post#523 » by chrbal » Thu Aug 4, 2016 7:15 pm

Cowology wrote:I don't even care about Westbrook staying out of the East, I'm just happy to see OKC hang onto one of their stars and for Westbrook to commit to helping them continue winning. That's good for the city of Oklahoma and good for the NBA.

Bad for Seattle.
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Post#524 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 5, 2016 1:06 am

Cowology wrote:I don't even care about Westbrook staying out of the East, I'm just happy to see OKC hang onto one of their stars and for Westbrook to commit to helping them continue winning. That's good for the city of Oklahoma and good for the NBA.


Not so much the east. I just didn't want to see my favorite non-Piston become a Celtic.

That and being happy for OKC.
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Post#525 » by Pharaoh » Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:18 am

OKC now looking OK tbh:

Westbrook & Oladipo as a backcourt is really interesting

Kanter & Adams up front is too

Obviously got holes on their roster but when you lose KD & Ibaka that's gonna happen
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Post#526 » by chrbal » Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:05 pm

They are also not in cap hell, like some mediocre teams did to themselves. Didn't get desperate and keep Waiters. They are not in that bad of a spot in all honesty
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Post#527 » by The Penguin » Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:35 pm

Pharaoh wrote:OKC now looking OK tbh:

Westbrook & Oladipo as a backcourt is really interesting

Kanter & Adams up front is too

Obviously got holes on their roster but when you lose KD & Ibaka that's gonna happen



Their spacing is atrocious. Going to be Russ going 1 on 5 most every night.
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Post#528 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:13 pm

The Penguin wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:OKC now looking OK tbh:

Westbrook & Oladipo as a backcourt is really interesting

Kanter & Adams up front is too

Obviously got holes on their roster but when you lose KD & Ibaka that's gonna happen



Their spacing is atrocious. Going to be Russ going 1 on 5 most every night.


Agreed. They're a talented group but as a team they're still a little rough around the edges. I suspect Ily will be starting for them with Kanter as the 6th man, that helps their spacing a little bit.

Who starts at the 3 for them now?
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Post#529 » by In SVG We Trust » Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:37 pm

Oladipo is a bad fit with RW, they should move him when they'll be allowed to.

The Ibaka move is getting worse now, Ibaka was a great PF for the system. I don't know what we can expect from OKC this season.
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Post#530 » by The Penguin » Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:50 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Pharaoh wrote:OKC now looking OK tbh:

Westbrook & Oladipo as a backcourt is really interesting

Kanter & Adams up front is too

Obviously got holes on their roster but when you lose KD & Ibaka that's gonna happen



Their spacing is atrocious. Going to be Russ going 1 on 5 most every night.


Agreed. They're a talented group but as a team they're still a little rough around the edges. I suspect Ily will be starting for them with Kanter as the 6th man, that helps their spacing a little bit.

Who starts at the 3 for them now?



I would think Roberson ideally, but he can't shoot either, so they might need to go with Singler or Morrow. Either way, gross.
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Post#531 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:13 pm

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Their spacing is atrocious. Going to be Russ going 1 on 5 most every night.


Agreed. They're a talented group but as a team they're still a little rough around the edges. I suspect Ily will be starting for them with Kanter as the 6th man, that helps their spacing a little bit.

Who starts at the 3 for them now?



I would think Roberson ideally, but he can't shoot either, so they might need to go with Singler or Morrow. Either way, gross.


Again, its worth nothing that the team isn't exactly "complete" yet either. They'll have some cap space next offseason and with Westbrook secured and a young team around him they might actually be a decent draw.

I think they made the right move dealing Ibaka away, I think his decline was already underway. Oladipo has a ton of potential even if the fit isn't exactly optimal. Dipo showed flashes of being a decent shooter at times last year (35% on a fair few attemps, meaning he was probably stroking it well at least some days), no way of knowing whether he'll ever get consistent with it though. KCP had a year like that and regressed in a big way the next year.
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Post#532 » by DBC10 » Sun Aug 7, 2016 12:49 am

Yikes, OKC will likely have to start Singler out of desperation. That's an ugly lineup altogether.


Russ
Dipo or Roberson
Singler or Morrow?
Kanter or Ilyasova
Adams

I hope that Blake Griffin rumors are true but even then, they need a 3 and D player from most positions.
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Post#533 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Aug 7, 2016 12:57 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:Oladipo is a bad fit with RW, they should move him when they'll be allowed to.

The Ibaka move is getting worse now, Ibaka was a great PF for the system. I don't know what we can expect from OKC this season.


If Lowry/DeRozen can make it work, then I don't see why Dipo/WB can't make it work. Donovon is a great coach.
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Post#534 » by In SVG We Trust » Sun Aug 7, 2016 9:19 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Oladipo is a bad fit with RW, they should move him when they'll be allowed to.

The Ibaka move is getting worse now, Ibaka was a great PF for the system. I don't know what we can expect from OKC this season.


If Lowry/DeRozen can make it work, then I don't see why Dipo/WB can't make it work. Donovon is a great coach.

Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3
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Post#535 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Aug 7, 2016 9:26 pm

In SVG We Trust wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Oladipo is a bad fit with RW, they should move him when they'll be allowed to.

The Ibaka move is getting worse now, Ibaka was a great PF for the system. I don't know what we can expect from OKC this season.


If Lowry/DeRozen can make it work, then I don't see why Dipo/WB can't make it work. Donovon is a great coach.

Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3


Not that much better. Are you saying Lowry than a top 5 player in the league. I would take Dipo/WB over Lowry/DeRozen due to WB alone.
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Post#536 » by zeebneeb » Mon Aug 8, 2016 4:04 am

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When Rose and Noah were on the Bulls the Pistons new team handled them just fine. Butler is better then Melo, and the Bulls as a whole were better then this Knicks team. conference finals?

Good grief.

I like Porzingis but cmon. "East is wide open after Cleveland".

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Post#537 » by In SVG We Trust » Mon Aug 8, 2016 11:42 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
If Lowry/DeRozen can make it work, then I don't see why Dipo/WB can't make it work. Donovon is a great coach.

Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3


Not that much better. Are you saying Lowry than a top 5 player in the league. I would take Dipo/WB over Lowry/DeRozen due to WB alone.

Yeah, I would take Shaq-Mutombo over Drummond-Harris, but this doesn't mean they're a good fit together. I was talking about surround RW with the right pieces.
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Post#538 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Aug 8, 2016 11:59 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3


Not that much better. Are you saying Lowry than a top 5 player in the league. I would take Dipo/WB over Lowry/DeRozen due to WB alone.

Yeah, I would take Shaq-Mutombo over Drummond-Harris, but this doesn't mean they're a good fit together. I was talking about surround RW with the right pieces.


The thing is, this is for only one year. Next year, they can keep Dipo, WB, Adams AND surround them with more pieces. People need to relax as every single year isn't the end all, be all scenario. There is usually a bigger picture to build upon.
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Post#539 » by Snakebites » Tue Aug 9, 2016 10:43 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:
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If Lowry/DeRozen can make it work, then I don't see why Dipo/WB can't make it work. Donovon is a great coach.

Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3


Not that much better. Are you saying Lowry than a top 5 player in the league. I would take Dipo/WB over Lowry/DeRozen due to WB alone.


Its not even so much Dipo and Westbrook that concerns me about that lineup. Those two guys can probably make it work. I'd just feel a lot better if they had better shooting from the other spots.

Kyle Lowry is a pretty impressive longball shooter for a point guard. He's not Steph Curry, but he's pretty solid. Neither Westbrook nor Oladipo are really floor spacers. Their best shooter as it stands now is Anthony Morrow, and he doesn't do much else.

Again, the team isn't complete. They need much better shooting from the forward spots. I suspect they'll start Ilyasova, which will help some, with Kanter as a solid 6th man. A 3 and D guy at small forward and that team looks a lot better. They aren't a complete team by any means, but they've got a lot of good pieces and should be interesting moving forward.
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Post#540 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Aug 9, 2016 11:29 pm

Snakebites wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Except when you notice Lowry is a much better shooter than those 3


Not that much better. Are you saying Lowry than a top 5 player in the league. I would take Dipo/WB over Lowry/DeRozen due to WB alone.


Its not even so much Dipo and Westbrook that concerns me about that lineup. Those two guys can probably make it work. I'd just feel a lot better if they had better shooting from the other spots.

Kyle Lowry is a pretty impressive longball shooter for a point guard. He's not Steph Curry, but he's pretty solid. Neither Westbrook nor Oladipo are really floor spacers. Their best shooter as it stands now is Anthony Morrow, and he doesn't do much else.

Again, the team isn't complete. They need much better shooting from the forward spots. I suspect they'll start Ilyasova, which will help some, with Kanter as a solid 6th man. A 3 and D guy at small forward and that team looks a lot better. They aren't a complete team by any means, but they've got a lot of good pieces and should be interesting moving forward.


I am thinking the Thunder lineup isn't complete this year, but next season they will be able to add to that lineup as they will have more cap flexability.
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