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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#541 » by DBC10 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:54 am

russkopp wrote:Omari Sankofa reports both of our two way players are with the Pistons in Cleveland. Strange but probably just insurance in case a deal happens. Not really sure why we wasted a spot on Buddy.


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Post#542 » by chrbal » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:54 am

russkopp wrote:Omari Sankofa reports both of our two way players are with the Pistons in Cleveland. Strange but probably just insurance in case a deal happens. Not really sure why we wasted a spot on Buddy.


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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#543 » by theBigLip » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:27 am

Canadafan wrote:
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Laimbeer wrote:If memeory serves we got on Weaver for not moving Grant earlier, but he parlayed him into Duren at draft time. Bogs could be moved in a similar way.


Stop being logical. I’m going through trade withdrawal! :lol:



Hahah same! After enduring yet another wasted season, we deserve some excitement


Plus I need to get back to my job. Not being very productive when I’m checking for trades every 5 minutes :lol:
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#544 » by Pharaoh » Wed Feb 8, 2023 6:38 am

Doubt we make a deal.

Bojan & Burks & Noel might have value but they also have value to our roster.

Y'all want a bunch of under 25s rolling out the balls every day? Where's that gonna get you? Washington is that example in real time and they haven't done squat for years too.

Surely we're aiming higher than that

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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#545 » by A_dub06 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:17 am

Pharaoh wrote:Doubt we make a deal.

Bojan & Burks & Noel might have value but they also have value to our roster.

Y'all want a bunch of under 25s rolling out the balls every day? Where's that gonna get you? Washington is that example in real time and they haven't done squat for years too.

Surely we're aiming higher than that

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Bojan turns 34 this year! He will produce next season but after that how good is he really going to be? His trade value is at an all time high now, what value is a 35 or 35 year old Bojan giving you? We probably aren’t a playoff team next season, so what’s the point? Get a couple more wins next year and feel slightly better whilst still missing the playoffs and then his production start rapidly declining? I want our young guys to take the next step but I don’t think that’s reliant on Bojan being here. If our young players don’t improve we will fail regardless of how good Bojan plays. The risk vs reward needs to be considered here and the benefit of keeping him is far smaller than the reward of trading him.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#546 » by kellmellus50 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 1:46 pm

Bojan will be traded it's not if but when , also Noel will be gone too, the coach never plays him so why keep him.
you put 2 g-leauge players in cleveland for a reason and that's for a trade or two and you have to have players to play cleveland.


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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#547 » by NYPiston » Wed Feb 8, 2023 1:56 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:Bojan will be traded it's not if but when , also Noel will be gone too, the coach never plays him so why keep him.
you put 2 g-leauge players in cleveland for a reason and that's for a trade or two and you have to have players to play cleveland.


Troy Weaver is a big trader and could never stand pat that's not in his DNA (Trader TRoy)


Weaver does most of his work right around the draft. He's been relatively quiet outside of the draft timeframe (deadlines, offseasons) so I wouldn't be surprised, and in fact expect, if he does virtually nothing at all in the next two days.
It's kind of weird to be a team that is a pure seller have a few assets to sell and not actually sell but... I guess we'll see.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#548 » by NYPiston » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:11 pm

Pharaoh wrote:Doubt we make a deal.

Bojan & Burks & Noel might have value but they also have value to our roster.

Y'all want a bunch of under 25s rolling out the balls every day? Where's that gonna get you? Washington is that example in real time and they haven't done squat for years too.

Surely we're aiming higher than that

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They have tons of cap space, especially with Bojan off the books, to add any vet of their choosing in the offseason and probably vets that are well younger than 34 that fit their competitive window better.

The smart play would be to maximize the value of the asset (and Bojan's value will never be higher) then use that acquired asset to fill areas of need with players that will be a bigger factor when the Pistons are ready to win (like they did with the Grant trade except maybe with a plug and play player). I like Bojan and all but he's not really helping the team win now so he's essentially a what will soon be depreciating asset on a team that isn't in win now mode, sort of a waste for team and player. Don't give him away of course but he shouldn't be considered off the table like the rumors are suggesting.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#549 » by kellmellus50 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:26 pm

NYPiston wrote:
kellmellus50 wrote:Bojan will be traded it's not if but when , also Noel will be gone too, the coach never plays him so why keep him.
you put 2 g-leauge players in cleveland for a reason and that's for a trade or two and you have to have players to play cleveland.


Troy Weaver is a big trader and could never stand pat that's not in his DNA (Trader TRoy)


Weaver does most of his work right around the draft. He's been relatively quiet outside of the draft timeframe (deadlines, offseasons) so I wouldn't be surprised, and in fact expect, if he does virtually nothing at all in the next two days.
It's kind of weird to be a team that is a pure seller have a few assets to sell and not actually sell but... I guess we'll see.


Trader Troy is not quiet he make deals at deadlines.examples=https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Detroit-Pistons/8/trade-deadline
2022 trade deadline deals=The Pistons gave up Josh Jackson (who is hurt and on an expiring contract), big man Trey Lyles (who is frustrating to watch but was competent) and two second-round picks to acquire Bagley III.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#550 » by Piston Pete » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:31 pm

theBigLip wrote:As much as I’d like to see any trade, I don’t want us to make a marginal one. Keep our cap space and then somehow leverage that into a difference maker this summer. I did just post about getting Toppin and Cam, but these guys barely make our rotation unless they have some kind of crazy breakout. Can we get a sign/trade with a 3D wing this summer?


Bey and Hayes for Trey Murphy type deal?
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#551 » by NYPiston » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:32 pm

Ah I forgot that the Bagley trade was near the deadline, fair enough. The other stuff is just Noel level filler.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#552 » by Mr Peanut » Wed Feb 8, 2023 2:41 pm

I'm expecting Noel to get moved but outside of that probably not much. The word from the national media and our beat writers is that Troy seems keen to hold onto Bogey and Burks, particularly as next year we will attempt for the play-in (whether we reach it is another story). A team keen to get over the hump might get desperate though and make an offer too good to refuse.

Very unscientific, but my percentages regarding how likely they are to be moved are:

Noel - 80%
Burks - 40%
Bogey - 25%
Bey - 10%
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#553 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:31 pm

I have a feeling no one will give up anything for Noel because its clear he'll be a buyout candidate and they will just wait and see if he can be had for a minimum deal (kind of like what happened with Kemba).

If Noel gets moved its likely part of a larger deal.

That said, we also aren't likely to take on much salary for next year if we keep Bojan, because he already made the comment about the fact we're looking to compete next year and have money to spend to add a FA... so if that's really true its not likely we trade our expirings (like Noel + Diallo + CoJo) for a player with a $20+ million deal for next season.
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Post#554 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:35 pm

Troy also traded Svi for Hami, who we still have... I can see him moving Nerlens, maybe Burks. Even those who said Detroit was bluffing about Bojan have recanted and said it seems like Troy wants him around.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#555 » by Billl » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:09 pm

Troy hasn't really telegraphed a lot of his moves, so I wouldn't put too much stock into any current rumors - especially us trading vets for picks. I wouldn't be surprised to see us go for cam reddish though. We've had multiple times now where there was a guy Troy liked and then a long time later, he picks him up cheap.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#556 » by chrbal » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:45 pm

My guesses to see how wrong I am late Thursday;

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1- Burks gets dealt for decent picks and some project players.

2- Bojan and Bey are both somehow still Pistons. I get not wanting to have all 20 somethings, but I think this is the time to cash in on Bojan.

3- Noel gets dealt in a 3 team deal where we wind up with Furkan Korkmaz, a filler player from Atlanta (Kaminsky?), and 2-3 seconds including Charlottes this upcoming draft.

4- McGruder gets waived to open a spot.

5- someone who has said “just trade Burks for whatever” will complain about the return we get for Burks.
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Post#557 » by kellmellus50 » Wed Feb 8, 2023 4:57 pm

We could have had Bol-Bol for Mcgruder but troy canceled the trade Hmmmmm mistake?
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#558 » by theBigLip » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:15 pm

Here’s a combination of hopes and guesses:
- Noel does not get traded and is bought out
- Bogdonovich does not get traded
- Burks does not get traded
- Bey is traded for Cam Reddish and our FRP

I hope I’m wrong on the first three

As for the league, some thoughts
- Crowder gets traded
- Fred Van Fleet gets traded
- James Wiseman gets traded
- Eric Gordon gets traded
- Bones Hyland gets traded
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#559 » by chrbal » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:17 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:We could have had Bol-Bol for Mcgruder but troy canceled the trade Hmmmmm mistake?


Ok

I’m pretty sure there’s a thread dedicated to that fact.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#560 » by Piston Pete » Wed Feb 8, 2023 5:39 pm

Honestly, I expect us to do nothing.

I want a couple trades. But I expect us to do nothing. If anything, we’ll do something like Noel for a top-45 protected 2nd rounder…. (Yawn)

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