Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit

[bstein14]

Watched more film on Ausar last night and I think I like his skillset more than his brother's, especially for us. He might surprise us (like Duren did last year) and be more NBA ready than we think. Of offense as a rookie, outside of being good in transition, if he just really focuses on standing in the corner and hitting open 3s he'll be fine. Try to do too much was fine while the team was tanking but Ausar likely is coming in at a point with a new coach here where we're not wanting to sacrifice wins for trying to work on expanding your offensive skillset during games. You put that work in during the offseason and come to training camp ready to showcase what you can do.

[Spider156]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

[bjones521]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

This is most likely going to be our starting rotation and im excited for it! The Nets arent going to match the 30M a year hes going to get. Im nervous about giving him "the Jordan Poole contract" but beggers cant be choosers.

[ducler]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

I think you're wrong about Killian, Sasser may replace Burks not him.

[Snakebites]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

This is most likely going to be our starting rotation and im excited for it! The Nets arent going to match the 30M a year hes going to get. Im nervous about giving him "the Jordan Poole contract" but beggers cant be choosers.

Nets are said to be willing to offer “north of 4/84”,

We’ll have to see how far north. Who else has cap space? He may not even sign an offer sheet here. Not sure how far the Monty connection gets us.

I’m also still…torn on offering him a big deal.

[NYPiston]

Does he slot at the 3? Do we think he and Bojan start together or one comes off the bench?

I'd be really surprised if he starts on Day 1, this is a long term play so I think they'll ease him into the league.

Also, one has to assume that Weaver will be on the hunt for a starting wing in free agency so it could get crowded if they keep Bojan with the new free agent add.

[theBigLip]

Duren, Ausar, Ivey and Cade

The new “Untouchables”

Now who is our 4?

[bstein14]

I think the Nets for sure match 4 years $100 million
I think the Nets likely match 4 years $110 million, but with some debate and hesitation
I think the Nets likely don't match 4 years $120 million
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That said, I could certainly be off on those numbers. We can also throw in incentives into the offer up to a certain amount as well.

$26 million + $2 million if team makes playoffs + $2 million if player makes all-defense team
$27 million + $2 million if team makes playoffs + $2 million if player makes all-defense team
$28 million + $2 million if team makes playoffs + $2 million if player makes all-defense team
$29 million + $2 million if team makes playoffs + $2 million if player makes all-defense team
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4 years $110 million guaranteed plus potentially $16 million more for max possible of $126 million over 4 years. I'd offer Cam that exact deal and hope that the Nets don't match.

[NYPiston]

Weaver sounded pretty enthused in his press conference. I get the sense Weaver believes (with high confidence) he's selected a future all-star caliber player.

One of the better pressers he's done. He was feeling good, even made a Halle Berry reference

[Spider156]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

I think you're wrong about Killian, Sasser may replace Burks not him.

You’re not wrong. I agree except for Burke. I think Killian is a 1. Sassed is more shooting guard, combo like Hampton. Burke is 2/3. Ausar is 2/3 starting. Bogan is 3/4. Livers 3/4. We need a starting 3/4 at PF. Stewart is 4/5, bagley 4/5. Out of all these guys I think Bagley needs the boot the most out of anyone on the roster.

[flow]

Love the draft! I wanted a trade and it happened, didn’t expect a trade up for a guard, although I knew weaver wanted keyonte George.

Very excited for Ausar. He’s exactly like andre Igoudala, he’s gonna be our Swiss Army knife. You can plug him in anywhere. He fits the team perfectly with a high ceiling. High character. It’s unfortunate the NBA did us like this but he could be the best or second best wing in the draft which is good considering how much young talent we have already.

Sasser. I like this guy at 22. He’s NBA ready age wise, this isn’t a project. He’s coming in for Killian’s job. He’s 3 and D and I think he’s gonna show us sure fire right away.

With that said…Killian is out. Stewart stays. I’m hoping bagley is out too. Joseph Diallo are out. No Hampton.

Paying Johnson 100m is gonna be the final touch to the roster. We need him and Oubre and we’re good to go. I’d keep bogan and guarantee his second year he signed for two more years. He’s a perfect backup 3/4.

Our team is getting stacked with talent.

Cade/Sasser
Ivey/burke
Ausar/bogan
Johnson*/stewart
Duren/wiseman

That’s a young team full of potential and I’d keep them for two years before making any changes. They just need time to grow and they will with Monty.

Very excited for our future!

It's way too early for lineups. We're surely spending money/making moves in the coming weeks.

Sasser is a nice pick, but we always get a bit over-excited about our low 1st/2nd round picks right after the draft. Truth is, he'll probably be fighting for time, and won't see much for a while.

[Notanoob]

Ausar was in a **** league, couldn't get to the cup and finish in the half-court (40.5% on layup attempts in the half court, just 37 attempts), and people talk about him shooting well in the playoffs as if it wasn't just five games. Plus he was a 20 year old beating up teenagers (a 15 year old even played some) in a fake league that's all transition offense. If you can't shoot and you can't get layups you straight up can't play. We already have Killian Hayes. I don't love it.

Still, Pistons need an All-NBA caliber talent if they're ever going to compete for titles again, and I don't think Walker or Hendricks were going to ever be that even in their most optimistic scenario. He's a big freaky athlete with some skill and a good reputation about his work ethic, so there's at least a chance. That's what Weaver was saying when he was talking about taking a big swing pre-draft. I get the idea behind drafting him and it's worth a shot.

[DNice68]

Ausar was in a **** league, couldn't get to the cup and finish in the half-court (40.5% on layup attempts in the half court, just 37 attempts), and people talk about him shooting well in the playoffs as if it wasn't just five games. Plus he was a 20 year old beating up teenagers (a 15 year old even played some) in a fake league that's all transition offense. If you can't shoot and you can't get layups you straight up can't play. We already have Killian Hayes. I don't love it.

Still, Pistons need an All-NBA caliber talent if they're ever going to compete for titles again, and I don't think Walker or Hendricks were going to ever be that even in their most optimistic scenario. He's a big freaky athlete with some skill and a good reputation about his work ethic, so there's at least a chance. That's what Weaver was saying when he was talking about taking a big swing pre-draft. I get the idea behind drafting him and it's worth a shot.

If this is the case then Amen will suck even more!

[whitehops]

I'll be honest - I didn't want either thompson twin and was 100% in on jarace walker. we presumably have our lead and secondary ball handlers going forward with cade and ivey so we needed someone who could excel off-ball, which ausar had to do playing next to amen.

ausar has a lot of things to improve on but he seems like a smart guy, he's obviously athletic and hopefully becomes what weaver saw in him. it sounds like weaver really liked his defensive potential so i'm surprised he didn't go with walker but i take that as him believing in stewart at the 4 and then sliding ausar in at the 3.

he seems to have a high bball iq so it will be pretty cool when the starting lineup (assuming stewart starts over bojan) that the entire starting lineup will have a 7'0+ wingspan besides ivey at 6'9, which is still really good for a guard.

[Notanoob]

Ausar was in a **** league, couldn't get to the cup and finish in the half-court (40.5% on layup attempts in the half court, just 37 attempts), and people talk about him shooting well in the playoffs as if it wasn't just five games. Plus he was a 20 year old beating up teenagers (a 15 year old even played some) in a fake league that's all transition offense. If you can't shoot and you can't get layups you straight up can't play. We already have Killian Hayes. I don't love it.

Still, Pistons need an All-NBA caliber talent if they're ever going to compete for titles again, and I don't think Walker or Hendricks were going to ever be that even in their most optimistic scenario. He's a big freaky athlete with some skill and a good reputation about his work ethic, so there's at least a chance. That's what Weaver was saying when he was talking about taking a big swing pre-draft. I get the idea behind drafting him and it's worth a shot.

If this is the case then Amen will suck even more!

I'm definitely a hater but it's not like there's no chance Ausar gets his jump shot up to par, plays good defense, passes the ball well and turns into a really good player.

Amen made more sense to me in that he's clearly more comfortable attacking the basket and that sets up his passing better, and being a jumbo-sized lead guard would make him a bit of an outlier in a good way. Despite being redundant with Ivey and Cade I would have liked him more tbh. Tough spot for him being on a team full of selfish and low-IQ dudes but with Ime there they could turn it around.

[Snakebites]

I'll be honest - I didn't want either thompson twin and was 100% in on jarace walker. we presumably have our lead and secondary ball handlers going forward with cade and ivey so we needed someone who could excel off-ball, which ausar had to do playing next to amen.

ausar has a lot of things to improve on but he seems like a smart guy, he's obviously athletic and hopefully becomes what weaver saw in him. it sounds like weaver really liked his defensive potential so i'm surprised he didn't go with walker but i take that as him believing in stewart at the 4 and then sliding ausar in at the 3.

he seems to have a high bball iq so it will be pretty cool when the starting lineup (assuming stewart starts over bojan) that the entire starting lineup will have a 7'0+ wingspan besides ivey at 6'9, which is still really good for a guard.

The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.

[whitehops]

The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.

yeah i was hopeful cade would figure his shot out because he was elite in college from 3. ivey was okay but average is the best descriptor for him.

at the very least we'll have bojan, livers and sasser in our rotation who can be relied upon to be 40% shooters from 3. like you said, for the rest we just have to hope for internal improvement.

[flow]

I'll be honest - I didn't want either thompson twin and was 100% in on jarace walker. we presumably have our lead and secondary ball handlers going forward with cade and ivey so we needed someone who could excel off-ball, which ausar had to do playing next to amen.

ausar has a lot of things to improve on but he seems like a smart guy, he's obviously athletic and hopefully becomes what weaver saw in him. it sounds like weaver really liked his defensive potential so i'm surprised he didn't go with walker but i take that as him believing in stewart at the 4 and then sliding ausar in at the 3.

he seems to have a high bball iq so it will be pretty cool when the starting lineup (assuming stewart starts over bojan) that the entire starting lineup will have a 7'0+ wingspan besides ivey at 6'9, which is still really good for a guard.

The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.

As for shooting, we still have Bojan, we picked up shooting last night in Sasser, and we still have free agency.

Also, let's not forget that we have a new coach. And Monty's offense doesn't put the premium on 3-point shooting that Casey did.

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[grpistons]

Hoping for a Jalen Brown-type trajectory.

[mattao313]

I'll be honest - I didn't want either thompson twin and was 100% in on jarace walker. we presumably have our lead and secondary ball handlers going forward with cade and ivey so we needed someone who could excel off-ball, which ausar had to do playing next to amen.

ausar has a lot of things to improve on but he seems like a smart guy, he's obviously athletic and hopefully becomes what weaver saw in him. it sounds like weaver really liked his defensive potential so i'm surprised he didn't go with walker but i take that as him believing in stewart at the 4 and then sliding ausar in at the 3.

he seems to have a high bball iq so it will be pretty cool when the starting lineup (assuming stewart starts over bojan) that the entire starting lineup will have a 7'0+ wingspan besides ivey at 6'9, which is still really good for a guard.

The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.

For anything to work both cade and ivey need to improve as 3pt shooters. If the they don't improve our team will suck anyway

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