2025 Draft

[whitehops]

NBA draft is one that doesn't have to be two days.

100% the 2nd round is so meaningless. I think to make it more watchable you really need to have more content with GMs talking about trades, analysts discussing free agency, etc... the 2nd round itself is filled with a bunch of picks that won't ever be NBA rotation players.

they made it two days so it gives teams more time to set up trades and stuff beforehand, re-evaluate their boards, etc. before they'd have to do it on the fly in the 2 minutes they're on the clock.

which makes sense to me, last year it was in the middle of the afternoon and it was done remotely.

[SuperBad]

I just a second day of draft and overall nba talk while free agency and trades go down

[the_l_train]

NBA draft is one that doesn't have to be two days.

100% the 2nd round is so meaningless. I think to make it more watchable you really need to have more content with GMs talking about trades, analysts discussing free agency, etc... the 2nd round itself is filled with a bunch of picks that won't ever be NBA rotation players.

Agreed. Thought last year was just an excuse to give Bronny his own day.

As long as there is a flurry of trades both days, I guess I don’t mind.

[DetroitSho]

NBA draft is one that doesn't have to be two days.

100% the 2nd round is so meaningless. I think to make it more watchable you really need to have more content with GMs talking about trades, analysts discussing free agency, etc... the 2nd round itself is filled with a bunch of picks that won't ever be NBA rotation players.

Agreed. Thought last year was just an excuse to give Bronny his own day.

As long as there is a flurry of trades both days, I guess I don’t mind.

You didn't think that.

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[the_l_train]

100% the 2nd round is so meaningless. I think to make it more watchable you really need to have more content with GMs talking about trades, analysts discussing free agency, etc... the 2nd round itself is filled with a bunch of picks that won't ever be NBA rotation players.

Agreed. Thought last year was just an excuse to give Bronny his own day.

As long as there is a flurry of trades both days, I guess I don’t mind.

You didn't think that.

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Thanks for your input, buddy. Odd ESPN decided to spread it over 2 nights for the first time ever when Bronny came in....Good talk though!

[MortSahlfan]

This is the first time in a while I don't care about the draft itself since we're not a lottery team!

[LaSheed]

Ok Nique Clifford, Raynaud, Fleming, Kalkbrenner, Lanier is on my wish list!

[DetroitSho]

Agreed. Thought last year was just an excuse to give Bronny his own day.

As long as there is a flurry of trades both days, I guess I don’t mind.

You didn't think that.

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Thanks for your input, buddy. Odd ESPN decided to spread it over 2 nights for the first time ever when Bronny came in....Good talk though!

And you still didn't think it. Bad talking to you, guy.

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[the_l_train]

You didn't think that.

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Thanks for your input, buddy. Odd ESPN decided to spread it over 2 nights for the first time ever when Bronny came in....Good talk though!

And you still didn't think it. Bad talking to you, guy.

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[Invictus88]

Thanks for your input, buddy. Odd ESPN decided to spread it over 2 nights for the first time ever when Bronny came in....Good talk though!

And you still didn't think it. Bad talking to you, guy.

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I'm bored. Sorry in advance

One way to look at this is to examine when the 2024 NBA draft and its two day format were announced.

This publish date on this article indicates it may have been Jan 31, 2024.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/nba/2024-nba-draft-two-day-event-announcement/3531337/?os&ref=app

If the 2nd day was motivated to be Bronny-centric then they would have to be reasonably certain that Bronny would be taken on that day right?
So then the question becomes: On Jan 31, 2024 was it already a foregone conclusion that Bronny would be a 2nd round pick?

This article updated on Jan 24th has the current draft rankings of The Ringer, Bleacher Report, Tankathon, No Celings and ESPN:
https://hoopsdistillery.com/bigboardcomp-jan24-2/

Only one of the 4 sites (Tankathon) had James even ranked to be taken at all (at 41).

So at this point the planners would need to ask themselves: "Is it good television to spend the entire telecast talking about why Bronny hasn't been drafted?"



Sorry. I just can't live in the "2nd day for Bronny" world any longer. It's just not plausible.

[the_l_train]

And you still didn't think it. Bad talking to you, guy.

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I'm bored. Sorry in advance

One way to look at this is to examine when the 2024 NBA draft and its two day format were announced.

This publish date on this article indicates it may have been Jan 31, 2024.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/nba/2024-nba-draft-two-day-event-announcement/3531337/?os&ref=app

If the 2nd day was motivated to be Bronny-centric then they would have to be reasonably certain that Bronny would be taken on that day right?
So then the question becomes: On Jan 31, 2024 was it already a foregone conclusion that Bronny would be a 2nd round pick?

This article updated on Jan 24th has the current draft rankings of The Ringer, Bleacher Report, Tankathon, No Celings and ESPN:
https://hoopsdistillery.com/bigboardcomp-jan24-2/

Only one of the 4 sites (Tankathon) had James even ranked to be taken at all (at 41).

So at this point the planners would need to ask themselves: "Is it good television to spend the entire telecast talking about why Bronny hasn't been drafted?"



Sorry. I just can't live in the "2nd day for Bronny" world any longer. It's just not plausible.

I want to sincerely apologize to Invictus88 and DetroitSho for my recent comments on Bronny James and the “2nd day of Bronny” world-view. Upon reflection, I recognize that I did not take the time to fully understand the issue before posting, and I deeply regret any hurt or offense my words may have caused.

It was never my intention to cause harm, but I understand that impact matters more than intent. I take full responsibility for my actions and the harm they may have contributed to.

I am committed to listening, learning, and reexamining my views with greater care and empathy. I appreciate those who have held me accountable and helped me begin that process. Thank you for the opportunity to do better.

[DetroitSho]

And you still didn't think it. Bad talking to you, guy.

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I'm bored. Sorry in advance

One way to look at this is to examine when the 2024 NBA draft and its two day format were announced.

This publish date on this article indicates it may have been Jan 31, 2024.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/nba/2024-nba-draft-two-day-event-announcement/3531337/?os&ref=app

If the 2nd day was motivated to be Bronny-centric then they would have to be reasonably certain that Bronny would be taken on that day right?
So then the question becomes: On Jan 31, 2024 was it already a foregone conclusion that Bronny would be a 2nd round pick?

This article updated on Jan 24th has the current draft rankings of The Ringer, Bleacher Report, Tankathon, No Celings and ESPN:
https://hoopsdistillery.com/bigboardcomp-jan24-2/

Only one of the 4 sites (Tankathon) had James even ranked to be taken at all (at 41).

So at this point the planners would need to ask themselves: "Is it good television to spend the entire telecast talking about why Bronny hasn't been drafted?"



Sorry. I just can't live in the "2nd day for Bronny" world any longer. It's just not plausible.

It was just an opportunity to shoot a stray at Bronny for whatever reason. He, nor anybody else, thought that.

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[GreekAlex]

No trades yet??

[Snakebites]

No trades yet??

There’s been a few now. Not exciting ones- mostly picks moving around.

As for the Pistons- tough to get in on much action this early in the draft without a first round pick of our own to play with.

[Snakebites]

Troy Weaver, in his first draft with a new team, already armed with his own number 7 pick, aggressively trades a future pick to land another first rounder in the middle of the draft.

History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme.

[MotownMadness]

Troy Weaver, in his first draft with a new team, already armed with his own number 7 pick, aggressively trades a future pick to land another first rounder in the middle of the draft.

History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme.

Pretty stupid

That could be a good lottery pick next year

[Snakebites]

Troy Weaver, in his first draft with a new team, already armed with his own number 7 pick, aggressively trades a future pick to land another first rounder in the middle of the draft.

History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme.

Pretty stupid

That could be a good lottery pick next year

Absolutely. I broadly view the Stewart trade as defensible at the time and acceptable to solid in hindsight.

This trade looks categorically awful- the 2026 pick they gave up is unprotected and also contains a pick swap with Milwaukee. That could come into play if Giannis decides the Bucks didn’t do a good job in the offseason and he wants to be traded after all. Mileage varies on how likely that is but it’s a potential wild card.

Simply very short sighted move by Dumars/Weaver.

[Invictus88]

Troy Weaver, in his first draft with a new team, already armed with his own number 7 pick, aggressively trades a future pick to land another first rounder in the middle of the draft.

History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme.

Pretty stupid

That could be a good lottery pick next year

Absolutely. I broadly view the Stewart trade as defensible at the time and acceptable to solid in hindsight.

This trade looks categorically awful- the 2026 pick they gave up is unprotected and also contains a pick swap with Milwaukee. That could come into play if Giannis decides the Bucks didn’t do a good job in the offseason and he wants to be traded after all. Mileage varies on how likely that is but it’s a potential wild card.

Simply very short sighted move by Dumars/Weaver.

The simplest explanation for a lot of Dumars moves is that he gets snowed over by some flash of brilliance in a player and then ignores any common sense to the contrary while coveting him. (See Josh Smith and Charlie Villanueva)

I keep fighting myself from going there though. It can't be that simple right? He can't really be that bad when it comes to making sound basketball decisions.... And then stuff like this happens.... <sigh>

[Invictus88]

I thought this was funny from the GB:

Read on Twitter

[Crymson]

The simplest explanation for a lot of Dumars moves is that he gets snowed over by some flash of brilliance in a player and then ignores any common sense to the contrary while coveting him. (See Josh Smith and Charlie Villanueva)

I keep fighting myself from going there though. It can't be that simple right? He can't really be that bad when it comes to making sound basketball decisions.... And then stuff like this happens.... <sigh>

I think Dumars caught lightning in a bottle with the Going to Work crew. He had a four-season span in which he was a good GM outside of the Darko pick. He was then extremely blah until 2008, at which point he turned into an absolute disaster. He built the team but absolutely lacked the agility to keep it stocked with anything like decent depth from 2004 onward. When he correctly deduced that the core's window was over, he traded away the wrong player on the basis of terrible talent evaluation, and then, from the subsequent offseason onward, embarked upon a spree of management chicanery that unintentionally kept the Pistons in the low-to-mid lottery for the entirety of his remaining tenure even though he was actively trying to compete. This culminated in his absolute disaster of a 2013 offseason.

Somehow he was judged worthy after all of that, and after all this time, to take the helm of an NBA franchise again. That his first act was to hire as his right-hand man an unhinged former executive who'd been a complete disaster in his one previous assignment doesn't come as much of a surprise.