This is surreal.

[zeebneeb]

If you trade for AD, the cost would have to be very minimal IMO. He's could be here for just a year and a half. He could want a 3 year $70 million per season extension this summer. At his age and health, the only way a trade like that makes sense is if you are essentially giving up Ivey, Tobias and LeVert... and maybe one 1st rounder... and even then there is major risk he isn't the right fit for this group.

AD is clearly super good friends with LeBron and we all know how LeBron feels about Stew and vice versa.

I don't think it would even cost Ivey. Dallas is after picks, and the Pistons have them to spend, big-time. All firsts available, and 12 second round picks. If Langdon plays hardball, and offers Harris/LeVert/Sasser/Reed/Klintman along with multiple firsts, and a ton of seconds, I see no harm in that whatsoever. Adding Davis, without giving up a core piece would be IDEAL.

Cade/Jenkins
Ivey/Robinson
Ausar/Green
Davis/Holland
Duren/Stewart

If healthy, that team just became favorites. Now imagine if you get Beasley back on top of it. Davis value right now, is only going to be to teams, in the exact position as the Pistons. He is only getting older.

[Mr Peanut]

No interest in AD. Dallas will be looking to recoup value for Davis given they traded a generational superstar to get him. We would have to trade away at least two key players and multiple picks for a guy who can't stay on the floor and wouldn't be able to manage 3-4 consecutive playoff series (which is what we'd be playing for if we're pushing all our chips in).

[Cowology]

Especially with Duren and Ivey’s extension forthcoming. I’d like to see TL consolidate picks and find a Tobias replacement via the draft.

Honestly, we may want to keep ALL our picks and even start stockpiling them. As these extensions kick in we're going to feel the squeeze and will need cheap contracts to fill out the roster. Trading them all away for another big contract feels very "win now" with a high opportunity cost on the future.

He's saying consolidate picks and move up in the draft.

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Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

[SuperBad]

Not really on topic but with NIL; there is a much higher chance in the upcoming seasons that there will be much higher quality 2nd rd picks, I think we might have 6 in the next two years, we should try to exploit that opportunity and expect to fill 3-4 real roster spots a couple years down the road. with those picks after we’ve extended Ivey, Duran, Ausar, and Ron. But at least they will be a couple years older and likely solid role players.

[Snakebites]

What's interesting to me is, the Pistons have been around for nearly 90 years and while Chuck Daily has coached the most games, the 2nd most is Casey and the third most was by SVG. That just goes to show you how quickly we've burned through coaches no one had made it more than 4 years even when we've been good/decent.

Casey was our second longest coach? Damn! If someone had asked me off the top of my head, I'd have said Flip Saunders.
That's statistic is as surreal as anything.

We didn't burn through Larry Brown. He burned us with his wandering. Otherwise, he'd have been around as long as Dumars.
And it's probably heresy, but I don't think he was any better of a coach than Carlisle -- it was Sheed that put us over the top.

Casey coached us for 5 years. I know it was recent and I SHOULD know better, but I was genuinely surprised to see he was here that long.

I guess some of those years are starting to bleed together for me. It's wild how many years we had without anything all that exciting happening.

[Uncle Mxy]

Flip Saunders is second amongst Pistons coaches in both regular season and playoff wins.
I suspect I'm the type of guy who forgets most of the regular season losses and moves on.

[Menace2Sobriety]

Honestly, we may want to keep ALL our picks and even start stockpiling them. As these extensions kick in we're going to feel the squeeze and will need cheap contracts to fill out the roster. Trading them all away for another big contract feels very "win now" with a high opportunity cost on the future.

He's saying consolidate picks and move up in the draft.

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Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

For example - OKC have more 1st this year than roster spots. I’m sure they’re willing to trade one for a couple future seconds. Then combine another couple seconds to move up from our own or OKCs and target a PF. Do it Villain style.

We still keep the majority of our own picks. As you mentioned, we have all our 1sts and 14 2nds. We can afford it

[bstein14]

He's saying consolidate picks and move up in the draft.

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Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

For example - OKC have more 1st this year than roster spots. I’m sure they’re willing to trade one for a couple future seconds. Then combine another couple seconds to move up from our own or OKCs and target a PF. Do it Villain style.

We still keep the majority of our own picks. As you mentioned, we have all our 1sts and 14 2nds. We can afford it

OKC isn't one to trade 1sts for 2nds though. They wisely trade firsts for future firsts that have a chance to be better than the firsts they are giving up now. Other teams want to move in for a certain guy that drops... and OKC happily moves that pick down the road a year hoping its something better. They've done an incredible job with asset management. I don't like the Clippers at all but part of me is rooting for them not to be awful because the last thing OKC needs is another top 5 pick.

[Cowology]

Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

For example - OKC have more 1st this year than roster spots. I’m sure they’re willing to trade one for a couple future seconds. Then combine another couple seconds to move up from our own or OKCs and target a PF. Do it Villain style.

We still keep the majority of our own picks. As you mentioned, we have all our 1sts and 14 2nds. We can afford it

OKC isn't one to trade 1sts for 2nds though. They wisely trade firsts for future firsts that have a chance to be better than the firsts they are giving up now. Other teams want to move in for a certain guy that drops... and OKC happily moves that pick down the road a year hoping its something better. They've done an incredible job with asset management. I don't like the Clippers at all but part of me is rooting for them not to be awful because the last thing OKC needs is another top 5 pick.

Going pretty far off-topic here, but OKC feels like this generations Spurs or Warriors. They are going to win 4-5 over like an 7-9 yr window. Ridiculously well run organization that is setup for long-term success.

But yes, I could be persuaded that trading for future picks and/or consolidating & moving up would be decent strategies.

The way 1st & 2nd round picks have been thrown around the past few years may lead one to believe their value has decreased, but once teams start to feel how punitive the new CBA is, those values will skyrocket. With no real middle-class it will be all Max contracts and then minimum & rookie contracts needed to fill out rosters.

[Menace2Sobriety]

But that’s the thinking. OKC will get to a point over the next 2 years they need to worry about the apron and pushing asset allocation towards future use. There may be a small window of opportunity

[Kalamazoo317]

Actually another top five pick for OKC could be a good thing because they'll start to get into a "too many guys" situation and some of their great players will start becoming available for other teams.

[Cowology]

Actually another top five pick for OKC could be a good thing because they'll start to get into a "too many guys" situation and some of their great players will start becoming available for other teams.

Yeah, I mean basically they'll have their 3 main guys they are committed too and then some of those other pieces they'll be priced out of. It happens to every single NBA champion. They can't keep their role players after they win big. And yeah, they will lose some of those guys. But because of how they staggered out their future capital they'll be able to just sorta keep the pipeline full. It won't matter if they lose a Hartenstein or Caruso. I'm not even sure if it matters that much if they lose Chet to injury. As long as SGA is healthy they'll be able to keep a competitive team built around him.

I could be 100% wrong, but I think it's their veteran role players or maybe even JDub they get squeezed on. That's why they'll want to keep most of the picks. I am wrong a lot though lol

[DetroitSho]

Honestly, we may want to keep ALL our picks and even start stockpiling them. As these extensions kick in we're going to feel the squeeze and will need cheap contracts to fill out the roster. Trading them all away for another big contract feels very "win now" with a high opportunity cost on the future.

He's saying consolidate picks and move up in the draft.

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Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

Your response absolutely displays this. Especially the "trade em away for a big contract" part.

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[Cowology]

He's saying consolidate picks and move up in the draft.

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Yes, I understood that from reading his post.

Your response absolutely displays this. Especially the "trade em away for a big contract" part.

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Stop being so darn confrontational all the time. It's really getting old.

[Menace2Sobriety]

I took no offense - let’s move on

[Kalamazoo317]

The stretch from now until the trade deadline is going to be very important for Ivey

[tmorgan]

Not surreal at all. Reality. We back, and on top.

[tradez401]

only trade i'd do for anthony davis is for tobias str8 up no picks or added players.

[DetroitSho]

only trade i'd do for anthony davis is for tobias str8 up no picks or added players.

So basically you wouldn't trade for Anthony Davis because you'd absolutely need to add salary for it to be legal.

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[tradez401]

only trade i'd do for anthony davis is for tobias str8 up no picks or added players.

So basically you wouldn't trade for Anthony Davis because you'd absolutely need to add salary for it to be legal.

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okay for salary matching add sasser, levert, klintman etc.