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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#621 » by whitehops » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:35 am

GBanga3 wrote:I’m sure this guy doesn’t get spoken about much, and with our current lack of need at the PG position I’m sure he doesn’t end up with the Pistons.

Ignoring my hometown bias I just want to put it out there that this guy should be a lottery pick, and sadly (for us) will probably forge a better career than Hayes.


1. i'd argue that PG is as big a need as any we have. wright only has one year left on his deal and could be used as a trade chip before the deadline or this off season. saben lee has shown some promise and DSJ a little less so, while hayes was (by any measure/context applied) really bad before he got injured. if weaver has a PG he really likes in the draft he shouldn't hesitate to pick them for one second.

2. i love players in the 6'8/6'9 range that are both skilled enough and have a good enough feel for the game to lead the offense every time down the floor. it allows teams to not have to play a sub-6'3 PG and still maintains a quality offense. meanwhile on defense you can play an athletic SG to defend opponent PGs which makes switching across the board so much more viable defensively. it's one of the reasons cunningham is so intriguing, beyond his general talent. we could play someone like diallo beside him to defend opposing PGs and act as a secondary ball handler, and then we could have a lineup of diallo-bey-cunningham-grant-plumlee/stewart. that lineup has one player under 6'8 and they're an elite athlete at 6'5. and there's a good balance of shooting/play making/inside scoring.

thanks for the heads up because i'm definitely going to looking into giddey more during draft season.
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Post#622 » by aad » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:33 am

It’s looking like we gone end up in that 6 or 7th spot Casey is coaching to win and teams like magic,rockets.cavs are tanking along with the wolves,and kings
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Post#623 » by Manocad » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:00 am

aad wrote:It’s looking like we gone end up in that 6 or 7th spot Casey is coaching to win and teams like magic,rockets.cavs are tanking along with the wolves,and kings

:lol:
Not according to how their winning percentage is trending.
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Post#624 » by DetroitSho » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:07 am

aad wrote:It’s looking like we gone end up in that 6 or 7th spot Casey is coaching to win and teams like magic,rockets.cavs are tanking along with the wolves,and kings
If we end up 6th or 7th it's literally because multiple teams jumped us in the lottery. We're not ending up with the 6th or 7th best record. I can literally make a better case for us finishing worse than Minnesota for the worst record.

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Post#625 » by DNice68 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:43 am

DetroitSho wrote:
aad wrote:It’s looking like we gone end up in that 6 or 7th spot Casey is coaching to win and teams like magic,rockets.cavs are tanking along with the wolves,and kings
If we end up 6th or 7th it's literally because multiple teams jumped us in the lottery. We're not ending up with the 6th or 7th best record. I can literally make a better case for us finishing worse than Minnesota for the worst record.

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Post#626 » by buzzkilloton » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:44 am

aad wrote:It’s looking like we gone end up in that 6 or 7th spot Casey is coaching to win and teams like magic,rockets.cavs are tanking along with the wolves,and kings


Minnesota with healthy Kat/Rubio and Edwards getting going should actually be very passable. Actually, the team to worry about might be the Rockets their in bad shape 10 losses in a row that team is filled with injury-proneguys. Magic are another scary one I hear rumors they might trade Vuc if that happens they'll be tanktastic.

If we move some of Wright/Ellington/Plumlee its going to cement us I believe.
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Post#627 » by Pharaoh » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:49 am

I think we can stand pat and still tank - all these young guys aren't gonna have the legs.

Minny will be right there with us no matter what cause their best player is a empty stat guy.

Same for Houston and they might just shut Wood down anyway.

Weird thing is both Minnesota & Houston will lose their pick if it's outside the top 3 or 4 so they have extra incentive to tank.



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Post#628 » by vic » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:32 pm

Josh Giddey is nice would be great if Troy picks up another late 1st rounder. Could play pG or SG.
The more IQ on the court, the better.
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
Weaver & Casey, govern yourselves accordingly!
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Post#629 » by vic » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:47 pm

This article right here about Bruce Brown is just a case in point for me of why Bball IQ on the court is the number one need for the Pistons going forward

https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/3/14/22330252/how-james-harden-helped-bruce-brown-become-a-revelation-in-black-and-white

Bruce Brown has been a revelation because he has somebody on the court that can pass.

Hopefully we get Cade. If not Cade, Mobley, Franz Wagner or one of the high IQ players that can make everybody else 3 times better. Imagine Sekou playing with someone that enjoyed passing him open instaed of looking him off.
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
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Post#630 » by MotownMadness » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:44 pm

vic wrote:This article right here about Bruce Brown is just a case in point for me of why Bball IQ on the court is the number one need for the Pistons going forward

https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/3/14/22330252/how-james-harden-helped-bruce-brown-become-a-revelation-in-black-and-white

Bruce Brown has been a revelation because he has somebody on the court that can pass.

Hopefully we get Cade. If not Cade, Mobley, Franz Wagner or one of the high IQ players that can make everybody else 3 times better. Imagine Sekou playing with someone that enjoyed passing him open instaed of looking him off.

Brown seems like the perfect player for a superteam. Doesn't demand the ball, can do a bit of everything without volume and plays hard. Not surprised to see him do well there
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Post#631 » by DBC10 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:40 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
vic wrote:This article right here about Bruce Brown is just a case in point for me of why Bball IQ on the court is the number one need for the Pistons going forward

https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/3/14/22330252/how-james-harden-helped-bruce-brown-become-a-revelation-in-black-and-white

Bruce Brown has been a revelation because he has somebody on the court that can pass.

Hopefully we get Cade. If not Cade, Mobley, Franz Wagner or one of the high IQ players that can make everybody else 3 times better. Imagine Sekou playing with someone that enjoyed passing him open instaed of looking him off.

Brown seems like the perfect player for a superteam. Doesn't demand the ball, can do a bit of everything without volume and plays hard. Not surprised to see him do well there


If there was a vote right now for a fake award rewarding best role player, I think either one of Bruce or Josh Hart would win it this year. Their numbers aren't eye popping, but their teams would be definitely be a few wins less without them

I'm glad Bruce is doing well
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Post#632 » by MotownMadness » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:49 pm

Season highlights for Green and Kuminga, so much potential with both of them



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Post#633 » by tmorgan » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:43 am

To me, there is a big difference between Green and Kuminga. I like Kuminga, he’s definitely a lottery pick, but some of the things he does just don’t look like they’ll translate that well to the League. Flat footed J’s, soft passes in traffic, scoring thru people with layups as a forward, all of that may be a lot more difficult against better competition.

Green, though, looks like a killer. So much lift and body control. He’s the real deal, although he certainly does get tunnel vision quite a bit. Looks like an elite scorer to me, and pretty quickly.
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Post#634 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 am

Anybody watching the Tourney? (Michigan State)
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Post#635 » by DetroitSho » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:44 am

MotownMadness wrote:Anybody watching the Tourney? (Michigan State)
The only interest I have in MSU is the $50 bet I placed on them to cover the spread. Lol

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Post#636 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:44 am

State already eliminated :lol:
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Post#637 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:46 am

Man I'm gonna be watching so much college ball these next couple days, love the Tournament
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Post#638 » by DetroitSho » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:58 pm

MotownMadness wrote:State already eliminated
They covered, so I won. They can beat it as far as I'm concerned. Lol

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Post#639 » by NYPiston » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:58 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Man I'm gonna be watching so much college ball these next couple days, love the Tournament


It's one of my favorite things in sports. It was a tough pill to swallow when corona cancelled it last year. Getting to watch potential Pistons prospects is a bonus for me.
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Post#640 » by DNice68 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:59 pm

tmorgan wrote:To me, there is a big difference between Green and Kuminga. I like Kuminga, he’s definitely a lottery pick, but some of the things he does just don’t look like they’ll translate that well to the League. Flat footed J’s, soft passes in traffic, scoring thru people with layups as a forward, all of that may be a lot more difficult against better competition.

Green, though, looks like a killer. So much lift and body control. He’s the real deal, although he certainly does get tunnel vision quite a bit. Looks like an elite scorer to me, and pretty quickly.

Green would go well with Grant, Bey, and Hayes!

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