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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#621 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:13 pm

Kilo wrote:Who would say no to a Bey and Top 1 protected 2023 FRP to Brooklyn for Bridges? Pick would need to have special language given the pick owned by Knicks right now, but as long as Pistons miss the playoffs this year it would convey. Nets would gamble that Detroit didn't win Wemby with 14% chance and then get to pick top 7, potentially winning Scoot.

Would Detroit trade Bey and Scoot for Bridges come draft night? Would you?


Admittedly I haven't watched as much NBA ball this year as I usually do, but did I miss Bridges becoming prime Scottie Pippen 2.0?
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#622 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:15 pm

Kilo wrote:Who would say no to a Bey and Top 1 protected 2023 FRP to Brooklyn for Bridges? Pick would need to have special language given the pick owned by Knicks right now, but as long as Pistons miss the playoffs this year it would convey. Nets would gamble that Detroit didn't win Wemby with 14% chance and then get to pick top 7, potentially winning Scoot.

Would Detroit trade Bey and Scoot for Bridges come draft night? Would you?


We would say no to that. Scoot is 1000% a better asset than Bridges, much less throwing something in with him.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#623 » by Kilo » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:21 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Kilo wrote:Who would say no to a Bey and Top 1 protected 2023 FRP to Brooklyn for Bridges? Pick would need to have special language given the pick owned by Knicks right now, but as long as Pistons miss the playoffs this year it would convey. Nets would gamble that Detroit didn't win Wemby with 14% chance and then get to pick top 7, potentially winning Scoot.

Would Detroit trade Bey and Scoot for Bridges come draft night? Would you?


We would say no to that. Scoot is 1000% a better asset than Bridges, much less throwing something in with him.

Okay on draft night, but what about the 14% chance now that the pick was #2 OA? Bey and Amen for Bridges for example?

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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#624 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:26 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
Kilo wrote:Who would say no to a Bey and Top 1 protected 2023 FRP to Brooklyn for Bridges? Pick would need to have special language given the pick owned by Knicks right now, but as long as Pistons miss the playoffs this year it would convey. Nets would gamble that Detroit didn't win Wemby with 14% chance and then get to pick top 7, potentially winning Scoot.

Would Detroit trade Bey and Scoot for Bridges come draft night? Would you?


We would say no to that. Scoot is 1000% a better asset than Bridges, much less throwing something in with him.


Top 2 protected I would do it. Pretty much would be praying get a guy like Bridges at 3. Hes only 26 years old and hes on a 4 year 23mill per deal year 1 of it.

Risking Scoot would be too much though. Thats 14% on Weavers career in the NBA as a GM if we lost Scoot.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#625 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:28 pm

I guess y'all see Bridges as more of a ceiling raiser than I do. I see him as like a double and I think this team still needs a home run to lift us to even playoff level.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#626 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:35 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:I guess y'all see Bridges as more of a ceiling raiser than I do. I see him as like a double and I think this team still needs a home run to lift us to even playoff level.


Agree with this.

Bridges would definitely raise Detroit's floor, but not sure about the long term ceiling. Like in Phoenix, you'd want a guy like Bridges to be your 3rd or 4th best player with quality role players to fill in the gaps. Currently, Detroit doesn't have any unquestioned better players than Bridges. Cade can certainly get there, but they'd still need a lot more talent to put around Cade and Mikal to do anything significant.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#627 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:39 pm

I think where this franchise goes is basically dependent on if one or more of Cade, Ivey, Duren, or our first rounder this year becomes a superstar. I'm not tossing away one of those lottery tickets just now for a high level role player.

(Very off chance one of the other young guys becomes a superstar also, but that feels increasingly unlikely).
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Post#628 » by jayu70 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:42 pm

Before the KD trade was finalized, Woj reported Detroit being involved in a 3way. Any info from the Detroit side on this?

Talks had progressed and stalled, and the Suns appeared to be pivoting toward a three-way deal that might've landed them Atlanta's John Collins sometime Thursday morning, sources said. On the direction of his new owner, Mat Ishbia, general manager James Jones texted Nets GM Sean Marks sometime after 11 p.m. ET -- and it wouldn't be long until Ishbia and Nets owner Joe Tsai had cobbled together the final elements of the blockbuster trade, sources said.

Ishbia's initial hope was to keep Bridges out of the trade, but that was a nonstarter for the Nets. The Suns' offers weren't close to the Nets' asking price on Monday and Tuesday, and Marks kept working on possible trades to bolster the roster around Durant. The Nets pursued OG Anunoby in Toronto, and they discussed possible deals for Collins and Cleveland's Caris LeVert, but Durant's mood was unsettled and Brooklyn knew it had to push Phoenix to make the kind of offer it couldn't refuse.

The Suns had been talking with Detroit about the possibility of acquiring Collins in a three-way deal with Atlanta, but Ishbia wouldn't call it a night without making one more run at Durant.

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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#629 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:43 pm

If we want Bridges, we have other assets to dangle for him - some combination of ; Bogey, Bey, Hayes, Bagley, Burks, Diallo….

We shouldn’t even contemplate sending a top-5 pick for Bridges.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#630 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:45 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:I guess y'all see Bridges as more of a ceiling raiser than I do. I see him as like a double and I think this team still needs a home run to lift us to even playoff level.


I see the prospects at pick 3 in this draft as going for doubles anyways. The more home run swing type guys feel way to dicey for me in this draft. YMMV on what you think of that 3-12 tier of the draft.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#631 » by Moses ShamMoses » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:48 pm

We can't even trade a future 1st if a star were to become available, which limits us for sure. It would be nice if Weaver went out and got that pick back from the NYK somehow. I mean its not even a great pick to any team but ourselves with all the protections...
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#632 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:50 pm

Hadn't heard anything about that, but reading between the lines, I'm guessing the core was Collins to Phoenix, Bogie to Atlanta, Phoenix 1st rounder and cap filler to Detroit.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#633 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:50 pm

KD to Phoenix is pretty huge... if Phoenix doesn't end up with a championship after this they gave up two good young players in Cam and Bridges and four picks and a swap... its a risky trade on their end for sure anything less than a Championship with KD+Paul would be disappointing for sure.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#634 » by Cowology » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:03 pm

Snakebites wrote:Josh Hart had more value than I'd have guessed.
I really wanted him last year when we were fantasizing about trading Grant to POR. I like his game.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#635 » by Cowology » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:04 pm

I'd be looking at Bagley to BKN right now for one of their 3&D guys. They need to rebalance. Figure it out Weaver.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#636 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:14 pm

Raptors gave up a 2024 first and 2 2nd for Poetl... who is a solid young starter but he is also a FA this summer. San Antonio doing that rebuild right getting draft assets and trading away someone who many nights was their best player to all but ensure they will be a bottom 3 team this year.

Starting our next game (against San Antonio) and really until the end of the season now our last 26 games of the season are against a lot more sub .500 teams.

Boston, Cleveland, Denver, Miami(X2), Milwaukee, Brooklyn are 7 games against teams .500 or above and the other 19 games are against teams currently below .500 right now.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#637 » by Moses ShamMoses » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:14 pm

Too bad Bagley is negative value right now. He's paid alot to be injured and mediocre.

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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#638 » by Canadafan » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:18 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Hadn't heard anything about that, but reading between the lines, I'm guessing the core was Collins to Phoenix, Bogie to Atlanta, Phoenix 1st rounder and cap filler to Detroit.


So exciting to hear my guy Collins indirectly being mentioned with my team and also the assumption we would trade Bojan is fantastic news also! Albeit from you but nevertheless exciting :nod:
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#639 » by Mr Peanut » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:19 pm

I would do Bridges for Bey and our pick this year top 2 protected (to cover for Wemby or Scoot).

Bridges seems heavily underrated by some. Over the past 13 or so games with Booker out he is averaging 23 PPG on good percentages, while playing elite defense throughout his career. He's also an ironman and played the last 365 games or so in a row. He's locked in on a good contract for a few years. I think he's really going to break out in Brooklyn and every other team in the league will be regretting not going after him.
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Re: Trade deadline thread 

Post#640 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:21 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:I would do Bridges for Bey and our pick this year top 2 protected (to cover for Wemby or Scoot).

Bridges seems heavily underrated by some. Over the past 13 or so games with Booker out he is averaging 23 PPG on good percentages, while playing elite defense throughout his career. He's also an ironman and played the last 365 games or so in a row. He's locked in on a good contract for a few years. I think he's really going to break out in Brooklyn and every other team in the league will be regretting not going after him.



Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

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