Trade deadline thread

[Mr Peanut]

I would do Bridges for Bey and our pick this year top 2 protected (to cover for Wemby or Scoot).

Bridges seems heavily underrated by some. Over the past 13 or so games with Booker out he is averaging 23 PPG on good percentages, while playing elite defense throughout his career. He's also an ironman and played the last 365 games or so in a row. He's locked in on a good contract for a few years. I think he's really going to break out in Brooklyn and every other team in the league will be regretting not going after him.

Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

I guess so, although even if Bridges breaks out I can't see them being more than a play-in team with their current roster (which I guess they won't mind as they don't have control of their picks as you say). If they wanted a potential higher ceiling long-term though they would take our offer and hope they pick a star somewhere between picks 3-7 which is where we're likely to land.

[chrbal]

I would do Bridges for Bey and our pick this year top 2 protected (to cover for Wemby or Scoot).

Bridges seems heavily underrated by some. Over the past 13 or so games with Booker out he is averaging 23 PPG on good percentages, while playing elite defense throughout his career. He's also an ironman and played the last 365 games or so in a row. He's locked in on a good contract for a few years. I think he's really going to break out in Brooklyn and every other team in the league will be regretting not going after him.

Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

[NYPiston]

What’s really sad about this era of pistons basketball is other teams who are also bad have much brighter futures than us. The jazz are a good team with an insane amount of first round picks. The Rockets are a similar team to the Pistons with a lot of first round picks, the Orlando Magic have all of their picks and their young talent is starting to win them games.

We suck, have 3 to 4 players that are worth keeping and technically don’t have our first round pick to trade until 2028.

Meh. I wouldn't consider the Jazz a "good team", they're a mediocre team with a bunch of future 1sts but no guarantee of any of them netting a superstar. The Rockets are in the same boat but seem to be built as a talented team with no identity. The Magic's young stars have been relatively healthy most of the season while the Pistons have missed their franchise player, which seems to be forgotten around here for some reason when talking about how dim the future is. If they were THIS bad with Cade then I'd be a lot more concerned.

This season has been a tough watch no doubt but the rebuild is pretty much on track outside of the Cade injury which derailed this season. If he comes back healthy with the high draft pick and depending on what Weaver does with the cap space, I expect a significant jump in the standings next season. If that doesn't happen then, yes, this thing could be considered a disaster but I'm being patient for now and trusting "the process".

[bstein14]

I would do Bridges for Bey and our pick this year top 2 protected (to cover for Wemby or Scoot).

Bridges seems heavily underrated by some. Over the past 13 or so games with Booker out he is averaging 23 PPG on good percentages, while playing elite defense throughout his career. He's also an ironman and played the last 365 games or so in a row. He's locked in on a good contract for a few years. I think he's really going to break out in Brooklyn and every other team in the league will be regretting not going after him.

Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Cam Johnson hits 45% from deep.
Dinwiddie hits over 40% from deep.
Bridges hits 39% from deep an is an all-defensive team defender in this league.
Curry hits 43% from deep.

[MortSahlfan]

I liked Brooklyn before Durant/Irving... They started the season poorly, but made a fine run to go 42-40 and make the playoffs, then fired Atkinson, and did what Brooklyn did by getting old Boston players, only worse, because they paid all those guys the max... Hardon, Ben Simmons, Irving, Durant... Why not just sign every extension. Don't like it - cry your way out to your favorite team. I know I'll be rooting against Phoenix, and hope they stay around .500 and lose in the 1st round. And I wish the Denver Nuggets win it, or at least go to The Finals.

[flow]

Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Don't forget Cam Thomas.

And Joe Harris. And Crowder.

I like it.

[Snakebites]

The Nets did well given the circumstances.

The James Harden trade was a disaster if titanic proportions for them in hindsight- they essentially gave up Jarrett Allen and all of their depth, plus a warchest of picks, to get Ben Simmons and Seth Curry.

They recouped a lot of that pick value here (got a staggering 4 unprotected picks from the Suns), and Bridges and Cam are both very valuable.

They run 12 deep now without any all stars but have assets moving forward. They have options.

[chrbal]

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Don't forget Cam Thomas.

And Joe Harris. And Crowder.

I like it.

I guess I just figured they were going to gut it. Forgot about the picks they owe

[bstein14]

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Don't forget Cam Thomas.

And Joe Harris. And Crowder.

I like it.

And DFS as well who is good defensively, but not much on offense..... overall they might be a top 3 defensive team in the league now not far behind Boston.

[flow]

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Don't forget Cam Thomas.

And Joe Harris. And Crowder.

I like it.

And DFS as well who is good defensively, but not much on offense..... overall they might be a top 3 defensive team in the league now not far behind Boston.

Right. Forgot Finney-Smith. This group kind of reminds me of the '02 / '03 pistons before they put it all together.

Now I have a team to root for the rest of the season.

[DBC10]

Brooklyn isn't really in a spot to trade Bridges for younger talent/picks.... they are still going to be in win now mode... They don't own their own picks Houston has them all. They're going to need/want to be competitive.

They tore their roster apart, they aren’t trying to be competitive anymore. I mean honestly, who’s the best player they currently have?

Of course they are. Do you think they want Houston get get multiple top 5 picks from the Harden trade? No chance.

Dinwiddie + Cam + Bridges + Simmons + Claxton is actually a solid starting 5 and then you've got some decent bench guys as well. They are still going to be a playoff team this year IMO. I think you're undervaluing how good Dinwiddie, Johnson and Bridges are.

Cam Johnson hits 45% from deep.
Dinwiddie hits over 40% from deep.
Bridges hits 39% from deep an is an all-defensive team defender in this league.
Curry hits 43% from deep.

If healthy they can be the the East's version of the scrappy Jazz. Lots of productive pieces for them to not be like us in bottom feeder mode. On paper anyways

[vege]

Brooklyn are in a much better position than us, even if they don't own their 1sts for a long long time.

[NYPiston]

The Nets did well given the circumstances.

The James Harden trade was a disaster if titanic proportions for them in hindsight- they essentially gave up Jarrett Allen and all of their depth, plus a warchest of picks, to get Ben Simmons and Seth Curry.

They recouped a lot of that pick value here (got a staggering 4 unprotected picks from the Suns), and Bridges and Cam are both very valuable.

They run 12 deep now without any all stars but have assets moving forward. They have options.

I think so too. Bridges, Johnson plus 4 1sts (the later 1sts could be really valuable) is a nice haul for a player that never wanted to be there in the first place.

[Snakebites]

The Nets did well given the circumstances.

The James Harden trade was a disaster if titanic proportions for them in hindsight- they essentially gave up Jarrett Allen and all of their depth, plus a warchest of picks, to get Ben Simmons and Seth Curry.

They recouped a lot of that pick value here (got a staggering 4 unprotected picks from the Suns), and Bridges and Cam are both very valuable.

They run 12 deep now without any all stars but have assets moving forward. They have options.

I think so too. Bridges, Johnson plus 4 1sts (the later 1sts could be really valuable) is a nice haul for a player that never wanted to be there in the first place.

They probably keep Mikal. He’s young-ish.

But if they wanted to I imagine they could get good value for him. He’s the best 3/d in the league. Any playoff team would love to have him.

[bstein14]

Brooklyn's future owed and incoming picks section is now huge.

2024 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2024 2nd round pick to Houston
2025 pick swap to Houston
2025 2nd round pick to Houston
2026 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2027 pick swap to Houston

So Houston is getting Brooklyn's picks for 4 straight years... or if Brooklyn has the better record likely just in 2024 and 2026.

[Snakebites]

Brooklyn's future owed and incoming picks section is now huge.

2024 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2024 2nd round pick to Houston
2025 pick swap to Houston
2025 2nd round pick to Houston
2026 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2027 pick swap to Houston

So Houston is getting Brooklyn's picks for 4 straight years... or if Brooklyn has the better record likely just in 2024 and 2026.

Yeah what you’re seeing there is probably the reason they don’t break it all down.

What they have now is probably a play in team. It’s a scrappy group with defense and depth. They’re probably going to look to acquire stars down the road. Their situation reminds me in passing of the Clippers after the Blake and CP3 trades- except that they have Phoenix’s picks instead of their own.

[bstein14]

Cam Johnson is a FA this summer and he's someone I think could do well with a bigger role. I guess we'll get to see how he looks in Brooklyn. I wouldn't have a problem giving him 4 years $90 - $100 million it would be a move similar to when we gave Grant 3 years $60 million IMO.... That said, I'm sure Brooklyn is keeping him at any price.

[Snakebites]

It’s a team built nicely around the player Ben Simmons used to be. Doubt he can get that back though.

[mattao313]

Brooklyn's future owed and incoming picks section is now huge.

2024 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2024 2nd round pick to Houston
2025 pick swap to Houston
2025 2nd round pick to Houston
2026 unprotected 1st round pick to Houston
2027 pick swap to Houston

So Houston is getting Brooklyn's picks for 4 straight years... or if Brooklyn has the better record likely just in 2024 and 2026.

It's not that bad only 2 years without a pick. Could be worse.

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[mattao313]

Cam Johnson is a FA this summer and he's someone I think could do well with a bigger role. I guess we'll get to see how he looks in Brooklyn. I wouldn't have a problem giving him 4 years $90 - $100 million it would be a move similar to when we gave Grant 3 years $60 million IMO.... That said, I'm sure Brooklyn is keeping him at any price.

That's who I wanted in a bojan trade would have potential been a nice fit oh well...

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