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Post#721 » by Hotmayo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:06 pm

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Hotmayo wrote:What do you guys think if we traded cv and Monroe for markieff Morris an Channing frye?

Both guys can spread the floor and compliment both josh and Drummond

I would be fine with that as long as at least two first round picks came back with that package.


I agree. Seems like the best deal I can think of and if stauskas comes out or harris then maybe we can snag one and have a more competitive roster/bench
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Post#722 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:11 pm

Phoenix is doing well overachieving with their team. I seriously doubt they would make that trade.
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Post#723 » by sc8581 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:24 pm

Hotmayo wrote:What do you guys think if we traded cv and Monroe for markieff Morris an Channing frye?

Both guys can spread the floor and compliment both josh and Drummond


How about just Monroe for Markieff and a pick or two? This would give us a bunch of cap space this summer while replacing Monroe with a slightly less talented but more fitting PF/C off the bench, Morris could be our PF next to Drummond long-term also.
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Post#724 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Monroe and Siva for the Morris twins and a pick or two?
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#725 » by Hotmayo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:37 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Phoenix is doing well overachieving with their team. I seriously doubt they would make that trade.


I think they might .. After the season..bc when they resign Eric to a max contract their going to need another big piece around him to compete with championships. They have the money to pay Monroe and Bledsoe. Their biggest contract right now is dragic. And they have soo many young assets that don't affect them when it comes to spending
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#726 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:38 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Phoenix is doing well overachieving with their team. I seriously doubt they would make that trade.


I think they might .. After the season..bc when they resign Eric to a max contract their going to need another big piece around him to compete with championships. They have the money to pay Monroe and Bledsoe. Their biggest contract right now is dragic. And they have soo many young assets that don't affect them when it comes to spending


I just really doubt Frye and Markieff are part of a nucleus to lead this team to the promise land. I pass.
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Post#727 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:40 pm

Losing Monroe will be alright If we can get a good young player on a rookie scale and possibly a draft pick. If we then get to keep our draft pick as well that would be great. Then we go into next year with around 20 mil in cap space, top 8 pick and whatever young player we get from Monroe. Then before any off-season moves happen we need to fire Dumas.
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Post#728 » by Hotmayo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:41 pm

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Hotmayo wrote:What do you guys think if we traded cv and Monroe for markieff Morris an Channing frye?

Both guys can spread the floor and compliment both josh and Drummond


How about just Monroe for Markieff and a pick or two? This would give us a bunch of cap space this summer while replacing Monroe with a slightly less talented but more fitting PF/C off the bench, Morris could be our PF next to Drummond long-term also.


Your right, markieff could start next to Drummond. Also, when I looks at Channing shooting 100/238 42% from 3 this year Wow.. I just think what a nice piece that would be with Drummond.
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Post#729 » by Hotmayo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:48 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Phoenix is doing well overachieving with their team. I seriously doubt they would make that trade.


I think they might .. After the season..bc when they resign Eric to a max contract their going to need another big piece around him to compete with championships. They have the money to pay Monroe and Bledsoe. Their biggest contract right now is dragic. And they have soo many young assets that don't affect them when it comes to spending


I just really doubt Frye and Markieff are part of a nucleus to lead this team to the promise land. I pass.


Drummond is the star player who can one day average 20/10. His potential in 5 years is through the roof. He needs the right pieces next to him and they don't have to be great players ..Just great at what they do.. Like shoot around the perimeter..and not affect Drummonds game. Look at how Phoenix is doing well in the west. It's simply bc they have efficient shooters from top to bottom.

Those were just some ideas of players who could fit with Drummond. And plus we would be receiving picks
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Post#730 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:08 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Drummond is the star player who can one day average 20/10. His potential in 5 years is through the roof. He needs the right pieces next to him and they don't have to be great players ..Just great at what they do.. Like shoot around the perimeter..and not affect Drummonds game. Look at how Phoenix is doing well in the west. It's simply bc they have efficient shooters from top to bottom.

Those were just some ideas of players who could fit with Drummond. And plus we would be receiving picks


I really don't think either team would pull the trigger on this trade idea.
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Post#731 » by Q00 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:38 pm

Frye/Morris seem like good fits at PF next to Drummond, however unless they are trading Smith too, it doesn't really make sense to trade Monroe for another PF.

I think its possible they trade both Monroe and Smith though, and then look for a stretch 4 like that.
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Post#732 » by gaspar » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:39 pm

The Suns have no interest in Monroe whatsoever. The twins and Frye fit the Suns system much better than Greg. Combine that with the fact that he's gonna get paid in the summer and it makes no sense for the Suns.
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Post#733 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:43 pm

gaspar wrote:The Suns have no interest in Monroe whatsoever. The twins and Frye fit the Suns system much better than Greg. Combine that with the fact that he's gonna get paid in the summer and it makes no sense for the Suns.


It is a stupid trade on the Suns part.
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Post#734 » by ImHeisenberg » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:46 pm

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ImHeisenberg wrote:
Hotmayo wrote:What do you guys think if we traded cv and Monroe for markieff Morris an Channing frye?

Both guys can spread the floor and compliment both josh and Drummond

I would be fine with that as long as at least two first round picks came back with that package.


I agree. Seems like the best deal I can think of and if stauskas comes out or harris then maybe we can snag one and have a more competitive roster/bench

Harris will be a lottery pick, in the 7-12 range. Staskas could probably be had in the second round if he does decided to turn pro- which isn't a guarantee. Then again, he has to see McGary's stock dropping like a rock and understand seizing the moment.
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Post#735 » by Q00 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:07 pm

gaspar wrote:The Suns have no interest in Monroe whatsoever. The twins and Frye fit the Suns system much better than Greg. Combine that with the fact that he's gonna get paid in the summer and it makes no sense for the Suns.


Honestly Monroe seems like the perfect fit for Phoenix. They have no low post man and can surround him with shooters giving him tons of room to operate 1 on 1 in the paint. Plus in the west his defense wouldn't be as much of an issue.

I think Monroe needs to find a way to get to a west team, be it Phoenix or whoever.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#736 » by gaspar » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:19 pm

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gaspar wrote:The Suns have no interest in Monroe whatsoever. The twins and Frye fit the Suns system much better than Greg. Combine that with the fact that he's gonna get paid in the summer and it makes no sense for the Suns.


Honestly Monroe seems like the perfect fit for Phoenix. They have no low post man and can surround him with shooters giving him tons of room to operate 1 on 1 in the paint. Plus in the west his defense wouldn't be as much of an issue.

I think Monroe needs to find a way to get to a west team, be it Phoenix or whoever.

Monroe's defense would be an even bigger issue in the West than it is in the East. In the West there're more guards who attack the rim relentlessly and more elite big men as well.

And Monroe is a horrible fit on the Suns. He can't shoot to play at PF or protect the rim to play at C in the Suns system. We are very happy with Plumlee at C and Len looks very promising too. Frye's 3-point shooting is essential for the Suns from the PF and Markieff is having arguably a better season than Monroe.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#737 » by Q00 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:33 pm

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gaspar wrote:The Suns have no interest in Monroe whatsoever. The twins and Frye fit the Suns system much better than Greg. Combine that with the fact that he's gonna get paid in the summer and it makes no sense for the Suns.


Honestly Monroe seems like the perfect fit for Phoenix. They have no low post man and can surround him with shooters giving him tons of room to operate 1 on 1 in the paint. Plus in the west his defense wouldn't be as much of an issue.

I think Monroe needs to find a way to get to a west team, be it Phoenix or whoever.

Monroe's defense would be an even bigger issue in the West than it is in the East. In the West there're more guards who attack the rim relentlessly and more elite big men as well.

And Monroe is a horrible fit on the Suns. He can't shoot to play at PF or protect the rim to play at C in the Suns system. We are very happy with Plumlee at C and Len looks very promising too. Frye's 3-point shooting is essential for the Suns from the PF and Markieff is having arguably a better season than Monroe.


Good point about it being harder on him defensively with west teams being better offenses. However, the reason those teams score more is because no one plays defense, not because they are more talented. Thus I think he would fit right into that 1 way brand of basketball, where its all about offense.

I agree he's not a rim protector, but you still need the other side of the equation in a low post scoring big which you don't have, and are not easy to find. Monroe, while a poor defender is still one of the few quality consistent low post scoring bigs in the league.

To be clear though I dont want to trade him to Phoenix, as you guys have nothing I would want, so I'm not arguing about that. But I do think he would be a good fit for your team if you could somehow get him in FA or in a 3 way or something.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#738 » by gaspar » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:50 pm

Q00 wrote:Good point about it being harder on him defensively with west teams being better offenses. However, the reason those teams score more is because no one plays defense, not because they are more talented. Thus I think he would fit right into that 1 way brand of basketball, where its all about offense.

Not true at all. Just look at Indiana during their WC road trip. They can't stop anyone.

Q00 wrote:I agree he's not a rim protector, but you still need the other side of the equation in a low post scoring big which you don't have, and are not easy to find. Monroe, while a poor defender is still one of the few quality consistent low post scoring bigs in the league.

I guess you are unfamiliar with Markieff Morris' game.

PPP on post-ups this year:
Monroe - 0.79 - 223 plays
Markieff - 0.96 - 183 plays (in 25% less minutes)

Q00 wrote:To be clear though I dont want to trade him to Phoenix, as you guys have nothing I would want, so I'm not arguing about that. But I do think he would be a good fit for your team if you could somehow get him in FA or in a 3 way or something.

Again, he doesn't fit at all. EOT.
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Post#739 » by Q00 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:05 pm

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Q00 wrote:Good point about it being harder on him defensively with west teams being better offenses. However, the reason those teams score more is because no one plays defense, not because they are more talented. Thus I think he would fit right into that 1 way brand of basketball, where its all about offense.

Not true at all. Just look at Indiana during their WC road trip. They can't stop anyone.

Q00 wrote:I agree he's not a rim protector, but you still need the other side of the equation in a low post scoring big which you don't have, and are not easy to find. Monroe, while a poor defender is still one of the few quality consistent low post scoring bigs in the league.

I guess you are unfamiliar with Markieff Morris' game.

PPP on post-ups this year:
Monroe - 0.79 - 223 plays
Markieff - 0.96 - 183 plays (in 25% less minutes)

Q00 wrote:To be clear though I dont want to trade him to Phoenix, as you guys have nothing I would want, so I'm not arguing about that. But I do think he would be a good fit for your team if you could somehow get him in FA or in a 3 way or something.

Again, he doesn't fit at all. EOT.


If you don't think he fits then stop talking about it. lol I don't understand why you are getting so offended that someone is telling you a player would be a good fit on your team. Besides the fact of why are you even here if don't have interest in him? lol

Monroe > Markieff and Pacers defense > west offense in a 7 game series. There's a reason why the Suns could never beat the Spurs in the playoffs, but were a great reg season team. Because the Spurs are the only team in the west who play D and a 7 game series is different than random reg seaon meetings in January.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#740 » by momed11 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:26 pm

I got it, friendly for both sides.

Detroit out: Brandon Jennings, Josh Smith.

Detroit In: Cement

Why for us? You tell me what we are going to do with all those bricks.


Why for the cement company? They get all the bricks they will ever need.

(Cement can be used as a metaphor for a player who will be a better fit)

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