Trade for Westbrook?

Laimbeer · Post #721 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:38 pm

Here ya go.

Chris Broussard believes Russell Westbrook should be traded to the Pistons

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kpt · Post #722 » by **kpt** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:41 pm

This is from earlier this week and has been posted. Thanks though

Detstones89 · Post #723 » by **Detstones89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:45 pm

I stand on the fence. Either way I’m going to be happy. As long as he doesn’t go to the east. And considering he just liked a picture of him in a MIA uniform we are screwed. When MIA is torching our guards this year with Broody and Butler we will all look back and wish we had a player of his caliber! Rjax isn’t going to be able to stop them and poor Brown won’t know which one to guard.

King Bugs · Post #724 » by **King Bugs** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:02 pm

A_dub06 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2845015-russell-westbrook-trade-rumors-pistons-lukewarm-on-trading-for-thunder-star

Vince Ellis has reported that the Pistons internally are “lukewarm” to adding Westbrook. Sounds like we won’t be breaking the bank after all.

I bet if Donovan Mitchell was currently on the roster, there would be more of a willingness to "go for it".

Kilo · Post #725 » by **Kilo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:15 pm

If Olynyk is being dealt to OKC in a Westbrook to Miami deal, I'd try to reroute him here for Galloway and Maker.

Detstones89 · Post #726 » by **Detstones89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:20 pm

If Westbrook goes to MIA we should trade Blake to a contender because I’ll feel real bad for that dude got stuck in DET with them not filling out a competitive roster around him. What was the point in getting a player of Blake’s caliber and contract to literally aim for the 8th seed so stupid!!!

Kilo · Post #727 » by **Kilo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 pm

Griffin should absolutely ask for a trade. Gores always promises to make the big move and pay the tax - passing on Westbrook will prove definitively that he's blowing hot air.

Invictus88 · Post #728 » by **Invictus88** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 pm

Detstones89 wrote:If Westbrook goes to MIA we should trade Blake to a contender because I’ll feel real bad for that dude got stuck in DET with them not filling out a competitive roster around him. What was the point in getting a player of Blake’s caliber and contract to literally aim for the 8th seed so stupid!!!

And I won't feel bad for a guy making 40 million dollars a year. For some reason I think he will be able to make do.

And SVG's point was a desperation play to try to save his job. Nobody in their right mind would try and acquire someone paid 40 million a year to only be marginally better... And yes, I know that some vocal posters on this board want to do that very thing.

Post #729 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:32 pm

Kilo wrote:Griffin should absolutely ask for a trade. Gores always promises to make the big move and pay the tax - passing on Westbrook will prove definitively that he's blowing hot air.

I’m starting to wonder if the current FO looked into dealing Blake and Dre and simply didn’t get satisfactory offers.

Detstones89 · Post #730 » by **Detstones89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 pm

We will be lucky to be 7th or 8th seed

Tor>DET
BOS> DET
PHI>DET
IND> DET
BKN> DET
MIA > DET
MIL> DET

Orl = DET
WAS = DET
ATL = DET

We are a Blake injury away from drafting at number 9 for the next 3 years.....

haulerch · Post #731 » by **haulerch** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:43 pm

Well, Caron Butler feels strongly that we should trade for Westbrook. lol.

Detstones89 · Post #732 » by **Detstones89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:44 pm

If I were Ed and it’s clear we can’t land a worth while deal for Westbrook or any super star why not offer up Griffin a chance to go home to play with Westbrook in OKC , shoot give em Dre too and really start a rebuild instead of this staying competitive just to say we are ok at basketball none sense.

Detstones89 · Post #733 » by **Detstones89** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:49 pm

Invictus88 wrote:
Detstones89 wrote:If Westbrook goes to MIA we should trade Blake to a contender because I’ll feel real bad for that dude got stuck in DET with them not filling out a competitive roster around him. What was the point in getting a player of Blake’s caliber and contract to literally aim for the 8th seed so stupid!!!

And I won't feel bad for a guy making 40 million dollars a year. For some reason I think he will be able to make do.

And SVG's point was a desperation play to try to save his job. Nobody in their right mind would try and acquire someone paid 40 million a year to only be marginally better... And yes, I know that some vocal posters on this board want to do that very thing.

I’ll feel bad for someone with Griffen’s skill level and competitiveness never being able to get a championship. Gotta remember that 40 mil looks a lot less after that child support coming out of it

edmunder_prc · Post #734 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:56 pm

Max contracts with veterans is really too high. They arent going to give the return on that cap amount.

Supermax? Portland is going to regret it. Imagine Charlotte giving Kemba that contract. John Wall even at 100% isnt worth it.

Blake is near his salary at least. But that was a historic year for Blake plus he played way more games than usual.

Kilo · Post #735 » by **Kilo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:41 pm

Miami signed Herro today - so he cannot be traded until August 10th now. Interesting.

I think they feel they have the best offer and didn't need to include Herro. And they can't include a FRP until 2025 as OKC already has their 2021 and 2023 FRP's. So their best offer is likely expiring Dragic, Justice Winslow and that 6 drafts away 2025 FRP.

We offer Expirings, Luke Kennard and a 2020 FRP and that is pretty comparable given the 6 year separation in pick years and more expirings and instant cap relief.

pollack419 · Post #736 » by **pollack419** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:47 pm

We already have our Westbrook

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MotownMadness · Post #737 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:52 pm

pollack419 wrote:We already have our Westbrook

Read on Twitter

Havent been able to watch this year but good to hear Bruce is plating well. He been playing PG correct?

MotownMadness · Post #738 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 pm

Kilo wrote:Miami signed Herro today - so he cannot be traded until August 10th now. Interesting.

I think they feel they have the best offer and didn't need to include Herro. And they can't include a FRP until 2025 as OKC already has their 2021 and 2023 FRP's. So their best offer is likely expiring Dragic, Justice Winslow and that 6 drafts away 2025 FRP.

We offer Expirings, Luke Kennard and a 2020 FRP and that is pretty comparable given the 6 year separation in pick years and more expirings and instant cap relief.

If they arent trading Herro or at least Bam the WTF are they even giving them? Feels like OKC is getting pretty screwed if they are just sending him there as a favor.

the_l_train · Post #739 » by **the_l_train** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:07 pm

DET_Athletics wrote:
the_l_train wrote:If Miami ends up getting our boy Westbrook, it would be nice if we could jump in and make it a 3-way deal...hopefully ditch Reggie and Galloway. Swoop in and grab a guy like Winslow, Meyers Leonard, Shroeder or Patterson.

Doesn't take draft picks into account but works...
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5yq8nga
I would take Olynyk before I took Lenard.

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I know both are pretty "meh", but I would lean towards Meyers over Kelly.

Meyers is at least a Center, a year younger, bigger, and shot 45% from 3 (Kelly shot 35%.). I wouldn't hate getting Olynyk, but hopefully he would at least shave those pubes off his chin.

Kilo · Post #740 » by **Kilo** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:09 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
Kilo wrote:Miami signed Herro today - so he cannot be traded until August 10th now. Interesting.

I think they feel they have the best offer and didn't need to include Herro. And they can't include a FRP until 2025 as OKC already has their 2021 and 2023 FRP's. So their best offer is likely expiring Dragic, Justice Winslow and that 6 drafts away 2025 FRP.

We offer Expirings, Luke Kennard and a 2020 FRP and that is pretty comparable given the 6 year separation in pick years and more expirings and instant cap relief.

If they arent trading Herro or at least Bam the WTF are they even giving them? Feels like OKC is getting pretty screwed if they are just sending him there as a favor.

It really is tricky -

The Thunder ideally would like to take back salaries less than the $38.2 million that Westbrook will earn this coming season because OKC doesn’t want to increase its luxury tax payments. That’s a big deal for OKC, which is $2.25 million above the $132.6 million tax threshold and is subject to the punitive repeater tax if it stays over that threshold.

But because the Heat is hard capped at $138.9 million after the Jimmy Butler trade and won’t have space to sign any more players after eventually signing Tyler Herro, Miami cannot send out less money than it absorbs in a Westbrook trade. And the Heat needs to send out players earning at least a couple million dollars more than Westbrook’s $38.2 million if it’s a 3-for-1 trade.

Here’s why: Because the Heat likely will need to send OKC three players for Westbrook, Miami would be left with 12 players under contract if it’s a 3-for-1, instead of the 14 that will be under contract with the current roster after Herro signs.

Teams must have at least 13 players under contract by the first game of the regular season, meaning Miami would somehow need to find a way to trim additional salary to add a very cheap 13th player by mid-October. It would be OK, within league rules, for the Heat to have fewer than 13 players under contract before then.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article231883128.html

I'm not sure Miami can make it work. They need to send out Dragic, Winslow and then find a third team to take on Olynyk, Waiters or Johnson and send back less contract. Waiters, Olynyk and Johnson are all signed through NEXT season so dumping them will have a higher price as well. And as mentioned Miami cannot trade a FRP until 2025. Can't trade Meyers Leonard for 60 days.