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Post#741 » by mattao313 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:49 am

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zeebneeb wrote:Best rebounder in the league, 3rd team all nba at 22, and replacing him already?

With Anthony Davis?

Maybe I'm spending to much time on this board.

Yeah, to much time.

Can't be serious...Andre Drummond isn't even in the same stratosphere as Anthony Davis. Give me the guy who can put up 24 &10 and make freethrows
Yeah, I'm dead serious. BEST rebounder in 20+ years, already an all-star and made the all-nba 3rd team and has the potential to be the best center in he league, AND plays almost every game.

YOUR making it seem like I'm talking about miles plumlee or something.

Maybe I'll repeat my self;

Best rebounder in 20+years, all-nba 3rd team, all-star, and only 22 years old and is stout as ****.

If Andre becomes better, and continue to play defense like he did against the magic he will become a force in the NBA and an MVP candidate.

I don't care about Davis who is oft injured and plays PF. I want the biggest, fastest Center in the league thank you very much.

Difference in opinion.

After this comment I'm done cause this is ridiculous Davis is better at every other facet of the game other than rebounding. Also Andre just had historically bad ft shooting season.
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Post#742 » by zeebneeb » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:55 am

mattao313 wrote:
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mattao313 wrote:Can't be serious...Andre Drummond isn't even in the same stratosphere as Anthony Davis. Give me the guy who can put up 24 &10 and make freethrows
Yeah, I'm dead serious. BEST rebounder in 20+ years, already an all-star and made the all-nba 3rd team and has the potential to be the best center in he league, AND plays almost every game.

YOUR making it seem like I'm talking about miles plumlee or something.

Maybe I'll repeat my self;

Best rebounder in 20+years, all-nba 3rd team, all-star, and only 22 years old and is stout as ****.

If Andre becomes better, and continue to play defense like he did against the magic he will become a force in the NBA and an MVP candidate.

I don't care about Davis who is oft injured and plays PF. I want the biggest, fastest Center in the league thank you very much.

Difference in opinion.

After this comment I'm done cause this is ridiculous Davis is better at every other facet of the game other than rebounding. Also Andre just had historically bad ft shooting season.
Be done then I don't care.

Stated my opinion and position as did you.

Non starter of a discussion anyway as neither team is trading either player.

Might as well be discussing what brand of jacket is best for Pluto's weather.
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Post#743 » by tmorgan » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:56 am

The kind with an oxygen mask.
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Post#744 » by DBC10 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:46 pm

Yeah zeeb, I normally agree with you on a lot of things, but Anthony Davis can basically do everything Dre can except a slight downgrade in rebounding. He can post up, fadeaway, hit 3s, roll to the rim for a lob, and flirts with triple doubles with blocks. The guy can literally do it all.

SVG would turn him into a 30+ point player, easy my man.
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Post#745 » by zeebneeb » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:20 pm

DBC10 wrote:Yeah zeeb, I normally agree with you on a lot of things, but Anthony Davis can basically do everything Dre can except a slight downgrade in rebounding. He can post up, fadeaway, hit 3s, roll to the rim for a lob, and flirts with triple doubles with blocks. The guy can literally do it all.

SVG would turn him into a 30+ point player, easy my man.
In my travels as a human I am oft reminded of the saying;

"The grass is greener on the other side".

It's as true as the day it was first uttered.

I would much rather have Davis playing alongside Andre then replacing him seeing as how he absolutely cannot replace him as he is a PF, not a center.

If we want to work on that notion I am 100% behind it. Trade half the entire team+a first for him if you have to.

Drummond and Davis front line would be the most dominant in perhaps the history of the league.

That is how I look at things.
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Post#746 » by DBC10 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:42 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
DBC10 wrote:Yeah zeeb, I normally agree with you on a lot of things, but Anthony Davis can basically do everything Dre can except a slight downgrade in rebounding. He can post up, fadeaway, hit 3s, roll to the rim for a lob, and flirts with triple doubles with blocks. The guy can literally do it all.

SVG would turn him into a 30+ point player, easy my man.
In my travels as a human I am oft reminded of the saying;

"The grass is greener on the other side".

It's as true as the day it was first uttered.

I would much rather have Davis playing alongside Andre then replacing him seeing as how he absolutely cannot replace him as he is a PF, not a center.

If we want to work on that notion I am 100% behind it. Trade half the entire team+a first for him if you have to.

Drummond and Davis front line would be the most dominant in perhaps the history of the league.

That is how I look at things.


Alrighty, I see where you're coming from. Pairing Davis and Dre would be a historic frontcourt even if they don't reach their complete ceilings.
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Post#747 » by Todd3 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:07 am

I'll stay with Drummond. Davis is always hurt and his big numbers aren't translating to winning. Plus dominant Centers historically win more titles than dominant PFs.
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Post#748 » by tmorgan » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:05 pm

Todd and I don't agree on a lot of things, but he's been commenting on Drummond's better defensive awareness/reactions this year, and he's 100% right.

3 games is just 3 games, but Drummond looks a LOT better defensively so far this year. Like, a ton. That's the #1 key to us contending, by the way... outside shooting needs to improve, Reggie needs to get back, Stanley needs to get better, yeah, yeah, all that, but if Drummond becomes a legit top defender, we're already close.
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Post#749 » by DBC10 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:33 pm

tmorgan wrote:Todd and I don't agree on a lot of things, but he's been commenting on Drummond's better defensive awareness/reactions this year, and he's 100% right.

3 games is just 3 games, but Drummond looks a LOT better defensively so far this year. Like, a ton. That's the #1 key to us contending, by the way... outside shooting needs to improve, Reggie needs to get back, Stanley needs to get better, yeah, yeah, all that, but if Drummond becomes a legit top defender, we're already close.


We become a legit defensive team that teams hate to play if Drummond actually steps up from his subpar defense last year. I really liked how he rotated to help more so far instead of daring guards to drive for an open layup while he makes a lackadaisical swipe. It's night and day from last year.
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Post#750 » by chrbal » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:20 pm

Hawks just waived the 7'3" Walter Tavares. Just so know SVG, you don't have to sign him. He clears waiver and you can get him onto Grand Rapids, thats fine. But we don't have to sign him.
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Post#751 » by Scout Taron » Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:40 am

The only thing that would make me even slightly consider taking Drummond over Davis is injury concerns. But I'd still take Davis without question. That dude is a top 5 player in the NBA and has a perfectly polished skillset.
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Post#752 » by Scout Taron » Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:40 am

What do people think about this Bulls team? They can't actually be good right??? I'm kind of concerned.
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Post#753 » by tmorgan » Tue Nov 1, 2016 5:54 am

Scout Taron wrote:What do people think about this Bulls team? They can't actually be good right??? I'm kind of concerned.


They certainly look better than expected, but 3 games (against Indy -- who I think sucks, Brooklyn -- who definitely suck, and Boston -- a good win) is still just three games.

We shall see.
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Post#754 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 6:49 am

Scout Taron wrote:What do people think about this Bulls team? They can't actually be good right??? I'm kind of concerned.



honestly they have a big 3 and they have depth but nothing great. In other words, its not going to take much to derail them and i think their lack of shooting or elite shooting will eventually catch up to them. They most certainly a team i wouldn't want to face in the first round with Dwades fresh legs.
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Post#755 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 6:57 am

Scout Taron wrote:The only thing that would make me even slightly consider taking Drummond over Davis is injury concerns. But I'd still take Davis without question. That dude is a top 5 player in the NBA and has a perfectly polished skillset.


this is actually really tough

Davis is most certainly the better player on both ends HOWEVER when it comes to playing center, i don't now if Davis can be as dominant as Dre with his size. Its essentially a similar argument of KG vs Shaq (giving dre benefit of the doubt).

I think what the real game changer will be is when Davis finds a system that tailors to who he is as a player. Dre benefits from being in a system that is gear'd toward his developing skillset where as davis needs a system similar to lebron, in that you have to surround him with the right pieces or get the forumla right. ..............................


I am trying to talk myself into Dre>Davis but i am reaching to be honest.

Ask again when he's not coming off a back to back 20 board game in which he looked unstoppable. :banghead: :banghead: :lol:
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Post#756 » by DBC10 » Tue Nov 1, 2016 2:53 pm

Wade looks fresh and his shooting has been a complete 180 in contrast to his career. He's actually taking and making 3 pointers now.

I think it was said on reddit that he's made the most 3s so far in his first few games as a Bull than all of last season or something crazy like that. I have no idea where this new Wade is coming from.
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Post#757 » by bballnmike » Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:19 pm

Scout Taron wrote:What do people think about this Bulls team? They can't actually be good right??? I'm kind of concerned.

Butler is 6/11 on 3s, Wade is 5/9, they'll come back down to earth
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Post#758 » by Kilo » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:29 pm

Ersan Ilysova traded AGAIN - poor dude. This time to Philly for Jerami Grant. Milwaukee to Detroit to Orlando to OKC to Philly in little over a year.
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Post#759 » by tmorgan » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:34 pm

Kilo wrote:Ersan Ilysova traded AGAIN - poor dude. This time to Philly for Jerami Grant. Milwaukee to Detroit to Orlando to OKC to Philly in little over a year.


Pump fakin' his way around the NBA...

but jeez, why to Philly? Too many bigs as it is.
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Post#760 » by bballnmike » Tue Nov 1, 2016 7:35 pm

Kilo wrote:Ersan Ilysova traded AGAIN - poor dude. This time to Philly for Jerami Grant. Milwaukee to Detroit to Orlando to OKC to Philly in little over a year.

Wow, guess he's the new Luke Ridnour now.. nour.. that Luke's retired.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/25/8846145/luke-ridnour-has-been-traded-3-times-since-he-woke-up-yesterday
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