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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#81 » by Snakebites » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:04 pm

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whitehops wrote:I'll be honest - I didn't want either thompson twin and was 100% in on jarace walker. we presumably have our lead and secondary ball handlers going forward with cade and ivey so we needed someone who could excel off-ball, which ausar had to do playing next to amen.

ausar has a lot of things to improve on but he seems like a smart guy, he's obviously athletic and hopefully becomes what weaver saw in him. it sounds like weaver really liked his defensive potential so i'm surprised he didn't go with walker but i take that as him believing in stewart at the 4 and then sliding ausar in at the 3.

he seems to have a high bball iq so it will be pretty cool when the starting lineup (assuming stewart starts over bojan) that the entire starting lineup will have a 7'0+ wingspan besides ivey at 6'9, which is still really good for a guard.

The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.


As for shooting, we still have Bojan, we picked up shooting last night in Sasser, and we still have free agency.

Also, let's not forget that we have a new coach. And Monty's offense doesn't put the premium on 3-point shooting that Casey did.

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Any good offense needs more three pointers than Cade/Ivey/Ausar would give us without internal improvement, even with Bojan (though it’s unclear if he starts with this group).
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#82 » by zeebneeb » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:23 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:The lack of shooting from the group still makes me nervous. We were an abysmal outside shooting team last year why I don’t see Ausar fixing that. He wasn’t as bad as his brother, but was an undeniably poor shooter from the outside at 30 percent.

But Weaver has to be assuming our guards figure their shots out. Because we’re probably dammed either way if they don’t.

I wish I shared his belief in Stewart as a starting 4.


As for shooting, we still have Bojan, we picked up shooting last night in Sasser, and we still have free agency.

Also, let's not forget that we have a new coach. And Monty's offense doesn't put the premium on 3-point shooting that Casey did.

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Any good offense needs more three pointers than Cade/Ivey/Ausar would give us without internal improvement, even with Bojan (though it’s unclear if he starts with this group).
If Bojan starts with this group, that means Weaver believes there is still a hole to be filled. He is 34, and will be 35 next May, so he is obviously not the long-term solution at whatever position they start him at.

If Asser doesn't start right off the bat, ill be even more concerned. What I'm hoping;

Cade
Ivey
Asser
Stewart
Duren

That, in theory should give the team, if Cade starts shooting how he did it college, and Stewart shoots like he did before he injured his shoulder, 3 competent three-point point shooters in the starting lineup, alongside above average defense, again in theory. If the twin can shoot at just 32%, that would make a world of difference.

I have very low expectations for the rookie, so that means I'm looking at last years team, with a healthy Cade. That team should be better then the 23 win team from his rookie season which had zero lob threats.

As it stands, I don't expect the twin to start, and for the lineup to be;

Cade/Hayes/#25
Ivey/Burks/#25
Bojan/Asser
Stewart/Bagley
Duren/Wiseman
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#83 » by tmorgan » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:26 pm

The real question is, how well does the rook need to play so zeeb stops calling him Asser?
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#84 » by Snakebites » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:28 pm

tmorgan wrote:The real question is, how well does the rook need to play so zeeb stops calling him Asser?

I dunno. It’s already grown tiresome.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#85 » by bstein14 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:46 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
flow wrote:
As for shooting, we still have Bojan, we picked up shooting last night in Sasser, and we still have free agency.

Also, let's not forget that we have a new coach. And Monty's offense doesn't put the premium on 3-point shooting that Casey did.

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Any good offense needs more three pointers than Cade/Ivey/Ausar would give us without internal improvement, even with Bojan (though it’s unclear if he starts with this group).
If Bojan starts with this group, that means Weaver believes there is still a hole to be filled. He is 34, and will be 35 next May, so he is obviously not the long-term solution at whatever position they start him at.

If Asser doesn't start right off the bat, ill be even more concerned. What I'm hoping;

Cade
Ivey
Asser
Stewart
Duren

That, in theory should give the team, if Cade starts shooting how he did it college, and Stewart shoots like he did before he injured his shoulder, 3 competent three-point point shooters in the starting lineup, alongside above average defense, again in theory. If the twin can shoot at just 32%, that would make a world of difference.

I have very low expectations for the rookie, so that means I'm looking at last years team, with a healthy Cade. That team should be better then the 23 win team from his rookie season which had zero lob threats.

As it stands, I don't expect the twin to start, and for the lineup to be;

Cade/Hayes/#25
Ivey/Burks/#25
Bojan/Asser
Stewart/Bagley
Duren/Wiseman


You're just ignoring the fact we have $27-$28 million in cap space to spend.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#86 » by flow » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:57 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
flow wrote:
As for shooting, we still have Bojan, we picked up shooting last night in Sasser, and we still have free agency.

Also, let's not forget that we have a new coach. And Monty's offense doesn't put the premium on 3-point shooting that Casey did.

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Any good offense needs more three pointers than Cade/Ivey/Ausar would give us without internal improvement, even with Bojan (though it’s unclear if he starts with this group).
If Bojan starts with this group, that means Weaver believes there is still a hole to be filled. He is 34, and will be 35 next May, so he is obviously not the long-term solution at whatever position they start him at.

If Asser doesn't start right off the bat, ill be even more concerned.


Then consider yourself more concerned. Because that's not happening.

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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#87 » by zeebneeb » Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:10 pm

bstein14 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Any good offense needs more three pointers than Cade/Ivey/Ausar would give us without internal improvement, even with Bojan (though it’s unclear if he starts with this group).
If Bojan starts with this group, that means Weaver believes there is still a hole to be filled. He is 34, and will be 35 next May, so he is obviously not the long-term solution at whatever position they start him at.

If Asser doesn't start right off the bat, ill be even more concerned. What I'm hoping;

Cade
Ivey
Asser
Stewart
Duren

That, in theory should give the team, if Cade starts shooting how he did it college, and Stewart shoots like he did before he injured his shoulder, 3 competent three-point point shooters in the starting lineup, alongside above average defense, again in theory. If the twin can shoot at just 32%, that would make a world of difference.

I have very low expectations for the rookie, so that means I'm looking at last years team, with a healthy Cade. That team should be better then the 23 win team from his rookie season which had zero lob threats.

As it stands, I don't expect the twin to start, and for the lineup to be;

Cade/Hayes/#25
Ivey/Burks/#25
Bojan/Asser
Stewart/Bagley
Duren/Wiseman


You're just ignoring the fact we have $27-$28 million in cap space to spend.
That means nothing unless something actually happens.

The most obvious hole on the team now, unless you really believe that Stewart is the guy, is PF.

Who is really available that the Pistons can sign?

Cam Johnson is not gonna happen.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#88 » by mattao313 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 3:17 am



Just a cool video of him.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#89 » by tmorgan » Thu Jul 6, 2023 4:32 am

There’s no doubt Ausar, like Duren, lives and breathes basketball. It’s certainly a nice trait to have.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#90 » by pollack419 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:20 pm

I'm liking what I'm seeing in the 2 summer league games. Smooth athlete, long, blocks and steals in both games but my favorite is some awesome passes. He will fit great in the new fast Monty .5 second offense
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Post#91 » by MotownMadness » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:46 pm

pollack419 wrote:I'm liking what I'm seeing in the 2 summer league games. Smooth athlete, long, blocks and steals in both games but my favorite is some awesome passes. He will fit great in the new fast Monty .5 second offense

Yeah I've been fine with it. Seems to have a IQ and intangibles. A little bit worried about that shot but we also haven't seen much of it either.
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Post#92 » by TurboTitan » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:38 pm

I'm content with Ausar, but Jarace Walker has looked INCREDIBLE
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Post#93 » by DBC10 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:51 pm

Watching that video, I don't really see a shot that's considered "broken" from some of the feedback I saw online. His shot is fine, there's no visible hitch and he doesn't look mechanical at all

Just lock him in the gym with a guy that can rebound for him and just shoot until he makes 300 a day. That's really how his %'s will go up
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Post#94 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:38 am

DBC10 wrote:Watching that video, I don't really see a shot that's considered "broken" from some of the feedback I saw online. His shot is fine, there's no visible hitch and he doesn't look mechanical at all

Just lock him in the gym with a guy that can rebound for him and just shoot until he makes 300 a day. That's really how his %'s will go up

Mechanics don’t look horrible. It’s the flat arc and short shots that have me semi concerned
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Post#95 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:39 am

TurboTitan wrote:I'm content with Ausar, but Jarace Walker has looked INCREDIBLE

Is this sarcasm lol
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Post#96 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:42 am

Two games in:

Read on Twitter


If he ever develops a respectable 17-feet and out jumper, he could be pretty good.

Just worried cuz his shot has been absolutely horrid (in two games).
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Post#97 » by Neptune » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:06 am

Piston Pete wrote:Two games in:

Read on Twitter


If he ever develops a respectable 17-feet and out jumper, he could be pretty good.

Just worried cuz his shot has been absolutely horrid (in two games).

He's taken two 3pters in summer league and one was a buzzer beater. But 0% is horrid though
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Post#98 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:11 am

Neptune wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Two games in:

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If he ever develops a respectable 17-feet and out jumper, he could be pretty good.

Just worried cuz his shot has been absolutely horrid (in two games).

He's taken two 3pters in summer league and one was a buzzer beater. But 0% is horrid though


He’s taken horrid jumpers that weren’t 3-pointers.

Pretty much anything outside 5 feet has been fugly - only 2 games in. Only 2 games in….
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Post#99 » by Neptune » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:15 am

Piston Pete wrote:
Neptune wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Two games in:

Read on Twitter


If he ever develops a respectable 17-feet and out jumper, he could be pretty good.

Just worried cuz his shot has been absolutely horrid (in two games).

He's taken two 3pters in summer league and one was a buzzer beater. But 0% is horrid though


He’s taken horrid jumpers that weren’t 3-pointers.

Pretty much anything outside 5 feet has been fugly - only 2 games in. Only 2 games in….

Can't argue with that point.

Hopefully leadership makes Ivey sit out the rest of the summer league so we can see Ausar get more time with the ball. We might see something different.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#100 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:46 pm

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