MotownMadness wrote:Cade having one of his monthly slumps again?
Amazing how Cade’s slump starts right after a starting lineup change...
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MotownMadness wrote:Cade having one of his monthly slumps again?
vege wrote:
We didn't only traded Morris. We traded Morris, Bojan and Burks, and we got almost nothing in return. It was obvious we were going to be much worse after the deadline.
Those are all very good vets, and they're all 40% or better 3 point shooters.
buzzkilloton wrote:League average shooting by position. So below is what the average nba lineup has for shooting on the court most times. Compare that to what we trout out there.
pg-37.1%
SG- 37.5%
SF-36.5%
PF-35.7%
C-34.9%
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-league-average-3-point-percentage-by-position
vege wrote:MortSahlfan wrote:The last two games have been lifeless... Not sure why we traded Monte. We waited so long for him to be healthy.
We didn't only traded Morris. We traded Morris, Bojan and Burks, and we got almost nothing in return. It was obvious we were going to be much worse after the deadline.
Those are all very good vets, and they're all 40% or better 3 point shooters.
vege wrote:MortSahlfan wrote:The last two games have been lifeless... Not sure why we traded Monte. We waited so long for him to be healthy.
We didn't only traded Morris. We traded Morris, Bojan and Burks, and we got almost nothing in return. It was obvious we were going to be much worse after the deadline.
Those are all very good vets, and they're all 40% or better 3 point shooters.
MortSahlfan wrote:Morris was rusty. He's shot about 40% from 3 for his career, and has the lowest AST/TO ratio in over 40 years since Michael Adams, which has been a huge problem for us.. We turn it over, they score, then the defense is set, and our offense stinks. He's a hometown guy, and I think all the other guys would gain more from him being here as opposed to .... some future pick from the year 2525, if man is still alive.
BDM22 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:League average shooting by position. So below is what the average nba lineup has for shooting on the court most times. Compare that to what we trout out there.
pg-37.1%
SG- 37.5%
SF-36.5%
PF-35.7%
C-34.9%
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-league-average-3-point-percentage-by-position
This is misleading because guys who aren't good shooters tend to not take 3 point shots, which isn't accounted for in that number. Centers like Bam Adebayo, Jarrett Allen, Gobert, etc take almost no threes so they really don't drag that number down toward reality, despite that fact.
Something like median 3-pointers made by position would be a little more interesting.
buzzkilloton wrote:BDM22 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:League average shooting by position. So below is what the average nba lineup has for shooting on the court most times. Compare that to what we trout out there.
pg-37.1%
SG- 37.5%
SF-36.5%
PF-35.7%
C-34.9%
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-league-average-3-point-percentage-by-position
This is misleading because guys who aren't good shooters tend to not take 3 point shots, which isn't accounted for in that number. Centers like Bam Adebayo, Jarrett Allen, Gobert, etc take almost no threes so they really don't drag that number down toward reality, despite that fact.
Something like median 3-pointers made by position would be a little more interesting.
Really only matters for some bigs as the vast majority of players shoot the 3ball today. Bigs who shoot the 3 should be compared to those who do. Bigs who barely or dont shoot have no barring in 3pt metrics like this rightfully so.
Median wouldnt put the correct value on efficiency which is what matters. If a guy shoots 30% from 3 but shoots a ton it raises his median made while being a negative for team.
BDM22 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:BDM22 wrote:This is misleading because guys who aren't good shooters tend to not take 3 point shots, which isn't accounted for in that number. Centers like Bam Adebayo, Jarrett Allen, Gobert, etc take almost no threes so they really don't drag that number down toward reality, despite that fact.
Something like median 3-pointers made by position would be a little more interesting.
Really only matters for some bigs as the vast majority of players shoot the 3ball today. Bigs who shoot the 3 should be compared to those who do. Bigs who barely or dont shoot have no barring in 3pt metrics like this rightfully so.
Median wouldnt put the correct value on efficiency which is what matters. If a guy shoots 30% from 3 but shoots a ton it raises his median made while being a negative for team.
You don't see how it's important to factor in how many players per position are actually shooting 3's at all when considering that percentage?
There are 23 players that qualify as playing some center (starter and bench) that make 1+ three per game and one of them is a Piston (Stewart). That means, most centers simply are not shooting much at all, and around 10 teams have none.