Trade deadline thread

[CDM_Stats]

He was in the best possible situation for a bigman in GSW. With the perimeter talent on that team, the spacing is probably the best in the league, let alone being surrounded by playmakers.

His path towards relevancy in Detroit sure seems to be far more uphill than it was in California.

Couldnt disagree more with all of this. Warriors reward ability to adapt to Steph/Draymond, or big time BBIQ. Wiseman was effectively coming straight from HS, were schemes are simple. He usually got the ball at the block in HS, but W's dont operate that way. Its high-pick motion offense, where the screener has to read what Steph/Draymond do. Its why Wiseman was very successful with the PnR with Poole and Ty Jerome, guys who aren't BBIQ+s.

Its why guys like Jamychal Green struggle, and why guys like Bjelica were fine. The system is built on smarts and experience, and Wiseman was behind the 8ball due to a ton of circumstances (his college "career", COVID ruining his 1st preseason, injury ruining his 2nd pre and entire season, etc)

Replace hype with context and you guys should be very excited. Probably would be more excited if Duren wasnt here already but still.. when its all said and done, I'd bet Detroit fans will be happy with this trade, with a solid chance of it being a heist

[NYPiston]

Hey, im just trying to figure out the move here.

Can you even imagine the lineups Casey is going to use?

I cannot stop laughing right now.

Funny thing about Casey's big man usage. He plays a lineup against Allen and Mobley with Bey at the 4 and they proceeded to get absolutely torched inside time after time with no adjustment whatsoever. How many times have we seen the Pistons switch a little guy on a big and let up easy basket after easy basket? I get that Casey is brought in to command the tank and he's a legendary Tank Commander but if this guy is coaching next season, I'm taking the year off from Pistons basketball.

[440BB]

With Wiseman as backup C, Stewart returns to getting minutes at PF and Livers gets minutes backing up both forward positions. For this season, I like it. Whether Bagley fits or sits will depend on Wiseman's progress going in to next season.

[Moses ShamMoses]

I mean the bust Wiseman put up a 30 point game not too long ago. Let your eyes feast on this...

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[Snakebites]

Yeah I’d assume Stewart is mostly a forward now. We have more minutes there than we did a day ago, and fewer at center.

Still hating this…

[thesack12]

He was in the best possible situation for a bigman in GSW. With the perimeter talent on that team, the spacing is probably the best in the league, let alone being surrounded by playmakers.

His path towards relevancy in Detroit sure seems to be far more uphill than it was in California.

Couldnt disagree more with all of this. Warriors reward ability to adapt to Steph/Draymond, or big time BBIQ. Wiseman was effectively coming straight from HS, were schemes are simple. He usually got the ball at the block in HS, but W's dont operate that way. Its high-pick motion offense, where the screener has to read what Steph/Draymond do. Its why Wiseman was very successful with the PnR with Poole and Ty Jerome, guys who aren't BBIQ+s.

Its why guys like Jamychal Green struggle, and why guys like Bjelica were fine. The system is built on smarts and experience, and Wiseman was behind the 8ball due to a ton of circumstances (his college "career", COVID ruining his 1st preseason, injury ruining his 2nd pre and entire season, etc)

Replace hype with context and you guys should be very excited. Probably would be more excited if Duren wasnt here already but still.. when its all said and done, I'd bet Detroit fans will be happy with this trade, with a solid chance of it being a heist

So a low Bball IQ center that struggles with adaptabilty?

Sounds like a great fit for Casey's piss poor excuse of an "offense" with no real structure or fluidity.

[JLiv]

- Bailed the Warriors out, saving them a lot of money
- Traded Bey for Wiseman, who could’ve been had for anything… but we chose to trade Bey
- Less $ to spend in FA post trade
- Still have Bagley on the roster
- Holding onto vets like Burks and Bojan when it’s abundantly clear we won’t be relevant while they’re effective players.

Check my record, I usually trust Troy but this was bad.

[Piston Pete]

As far as trades go, this is about on-par for Weaver, honestly

[thesack12]

We better not sell low on Saddiq during the same deadline where we refuse to sell Bojan high

Part 1 of that equation has been completed, still need to wait a bit to see about part 2.

Mission fully complete now!

[Rodman]

what is the difference between a Mobley. Allen lineup and a Wiseman, Duren lineup? Neither Mobley nor Allen space the floor. This year Mobley is shooting 19% form 3 pt line.

[MotownMadness]

It's not that big of a deal but the fit is strange. Let's hope Wiseman comes hungry and show's something. Really just hate that we have Bagley on the roster.

[JLiv]

We better not sell low on Saddiq during the same deadline where we refuse to sell Bojan high

Part 1 of that equation has been completed, still need to wait a bit to see about part 2.

Mission fully complete now!

[Sort]

I don't actually mind Pistons traded out Bey. If you can't play defense at the three or four, you can't rebound the ball, and your offense is incredibly streaky, you may have a spot in the NBA, but it's not much of risk to trade him, especially if you think someone else would overpay him.

Wiseman though? It's like Weaver wanted to make sure we kept the worse defensive rating in the league. The very last thing this Pistons squad needed was a low effort, poor defensive player.

The only positive I can say is this: some of the Golden State media thinks Wiseman's time in Detroit will be a whole lot better and make the Warriors look dumb for trading him for so little. They have at least watched him play.

[SuperBad]

I can’t believe he couldn’t get anything else out of this. I’m sure this can work out ok, but we should have gotten more.

[Sort]

what is the difference between a Mobley. Allen lineup and a Wiseman, Duren lineup? Neither Mobley nor Allen space the floor. This year Mobley is shooting 19% form 3 pt line.

Mobley and Allen are premiere defenders playing with two of the best guards in the Eastern Conference.

[Billl]

I'm not upset we keep taking fliers on reclamation projects. You try that enough and you'll likely find a gem. The problem is asset management here. We traded someone who there was a trade market for , for someone who there was little to no market for.

Anyway, this is about the best situation wiseman could have hoped for. We don't have a backup center right now, so he's going to get minutes by default. We run lots of simple pick and role stuff that should be easy for him to pick up. Hopefully he takes advantage of his second chance.

[mattao313]

You never know this guy might not even pass a physical like bol

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[Rodman]

what is the difference between a Mobley. Allen lineup and a Wiseman, Duren lineup? Neither Mobley nor Allen space the floor. This year Mobley is shooting 19% form 3 pt line.

Mobley and Allen are premiere defenders playing with two of the best guards in the Eastern Conference.

My point as well. Increase the talent around Wiseman, Duren and maybe you have something similar to what the Cav's have.

[Cowology]

I was kinda off of Bey so I don't mind the move. We weren't going to pay him and with his value being low it was always going to be our bust for somebody else's. I've said this multiple times prior to the trade. This really shouldn't surprise anybody.

I think it's fair to question/criticize Weavers drafting, but as always this board tends to heavily over-value our assets and then blame Weaver for not making a move that was never actually on the table.

Tldr; Weaver draft = bad. Weaver trade = ok.

[Snakebites]

I’d have been fine with Bey for seconds.

I think the valuation of Bey was fine.

No idea why we decided we wanted Wiseman over the second and savings.