The Trade Thread

[sfballa13]

Monroe
Jennings
Singler

for

Kyrie
Gee


Tank like your life depends on it.

No. Sorry Piston Prince

Kyrie is an overrated primadonna

Id rather have Hayward and Isiah Thomas than Kyrie who will surely bolt for a big market

Maybe Utah would consider a sign and trade in the summer for Monroe for Hayward

[theBigLip]

Supposedly Smith is untradeable, but I would think he could play for either New York team and they wouldn't worry too much about the cost. Smith for Pierce? Smith for some Knick crap and Hardaway?

[Kilo]

I think the Knicks would be our best chance given they don't own their pick without any protection and don't want to be that team to have traded away the first overall pick - especially in this draft class. Smith would be good next to Chandler, and not having to be a first or even second scoring option.

[Spider156]

I want to see a trade of Monroe and CV for Turner and Thaddeus Young. I want to see that happen! Do it Joe

[Spider156]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ldaa8bb

I would definitely do this trade. Please give me your thoughts/comments

[theBigLip]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ldaa8bb

I would definitely do this trade. Please give me your thoughts/comments

How does it help the Pistons? We still don't have a SF out of this deal. We'd get a SG in Turner who may have plateaued and would just take minutes from a developing KCP, and we'd also get another PF so we'd still have a quandry with Smith and SF. Meanwhile, we just gave up our best trade asset in Monroe. If we're moving Monroe, we need to get a good young SF in return.

[MotownMadness]

Just read this on SWR-

The Charlotte Bobcats are one of the many teams showing interest in getting Monroe. The Bobcats appear to be heavy buyers before the trade deadline, negotiating with several teams. According to Basketball Insider, Monroe is on the team's radar despite Charlotte not really needing a player like him. However, they are in search of talent and Monroe is certainly that.

The Bobcats are prepared to offer someone like Ben Gordon who is also on an expiring contract or young talent like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It would take a lot to pry Monroe away from Detroit so the Bobcats would likely have to toss in a draft pick to win them over.

If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

[Neptune]

Just read this on SWR-

The Charlotte Bobcats are one of the many teams showing interest in getting Monroe. The Bobcats appear to be heavy buyers before the trade deadline, negotiating with several teams. According to Basketball Insider, Monroe is on the team's radar despite Charlotte not really needing a player like him. However, they are in search of talent and Monroe is certainly that.

The Bobcats are prepared to offer someone like Ben Gordon who is also on an expiring contract or young talent like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It would take a lot to pry Monroe away from Detroit so the Bobcats would likely have to toss in a draft pick to win them over.

If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

I don't buy that the Bobcats have any interest in Monroe. They already have Zeller, McRoberts, and Jefferson. Even if offered MKG, I'll more than likely pass on a MKG for Monroe deal.

[theBigLip]

Just read this on SWR-

The Charlotte Bobcats are one of the many teams showing interest in getting Monroe. The Bobcats appear to be heavy buyers before the trade deadline, negotiating with several teams. According to Basketball Insider, Monroe is on the team's radar despite Charlotte not really needing a player like him. However, they are in search of talent and Monroe is certainly that.

The Bobcats are prepared to offer someone like Ben Gordon who is also on an expiring contract or young talent like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It would take a lot to pry Monroe away from Detroit so the Bobcats would likely have to toss in a draft pick to win them over.

If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

I don't buy that the Bobcats have any interest in Monroe. They already have Zeller, McRoberts, and Jefferson. Even if offered MKG, I'll more than likely pass on a MKG for Monroe deal.

Zeller, McRoberts and Jefferson???? Jefferson can score but the other two are not in Monroe's league. Charlotte would love to pick up Monroe. Zeller was a reach when they drafted him and it was thought he could be a stretch 4 since he certainly can't play center with the big boys, but he can't even do that.

My concern is getting a good player and teammate in MKG, but I think he shoots worse than Smith Although MKG realizes that and doesn't chuck up bad shots all day.

[Q00]

Supposedly Smith is untradeable, but I would think he could play for either New York team and they wouldn't worry too much about the cost. Smith for Pierce? Smith for some Knick crap and Hardaway?

I don't think Smith is untradeable at all. For every player supposedly untradeable, there's always another team with another player thought to be untradeable as well. In other words if the Pistons really wanted to trade Smith, I'm sure they could find another team willing to swap their "untradeable" assets, if both feel such trade could benefit each team.

The one team I would watch is Houston. They were in discussions with Atlanta this summer about a sign & trade for Smith to pair with Howard. They also have two "untradeable" contracts in Lin/Asik. The Pistons were rumored to be in talks with Houston for Lin this summer. The Celtics were rumored to be in talks with Houston for Asik a few months ago. And the Pistons have always had interest in Jeff Green going back to the 2007 draft. So, I could see a deal like this possibly happening and benefitting all teams involved:

Detroit: Jeff Green, Jeremy Lin

Houston: Josh Smith

Boston: Omer Asik

Houston desparately wants to get out of the Lin/Asik deals to have capspace this summer. Trading them for Smith would not only give them an upgrade at PF to pair with Howard, but also create ~15 million in capspace this summer to go after Carmelo.

Boston wants to get out of the Jeff Green deal and would get a starting Center whom they've coveted in the past to pair with Rondo.

For the Pistons, I like Smith and wouldn't trade him for Green straight up, but if Lin is included as well,that might be too much to pass up for a team trying to make a playoff push. It would effectively eat all of our capspace this summer, but we would already have our SF in place in Green, and Lin would provide some needed shooting/scoring as well. Plus he becomes a 15 mil expiring contract next year, so we would then have capspace again the following summer. It would also allow us to deal Stuckey for other assets/picks, having Lin to replace him off the bench.

The thing I like about Green too is he can play PF and be a stretch 4. So it could even allow you the option to not resign Monroe still and get another asset for him as well, already having a PF to replace him in Green. All in all it could be a win-win for all teams involved.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lcopwo2

[Hotmayo]

Just read this on SWR-

The Charlotte Bobcats are one of the many teams showing interest in getting Monroe. The Bobcats appear to be heavy buyers before the trade deadline, negotiating with several teams. According to Basketball Insider, Monroe is on the team's radar despite Charlotte not really needing a player like him. However, they are in search of talent and Monroe is certainly that.

The Bobcats are prepared to offer someone like Ben Gordon who is also on an expiring contract or young talent like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It would take a lot to pry Monroe away from Detroit so the Bobcats would likely have to toss in a draft pick to win them over.

If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

I would do this. Expiring, pick n a player yes

[pollack419]

What if we went all in on a trade. What is our best trade package

What about Monroe, Smith Singler, KCP, Stuckey for Ibaka, Lamb or PG3, Perk

[DBC10]

Supposedly Smith is untradeable, but I would think he could play for either New York team and they wouldn't worry too much about the cost. Smith for Pierce? Smith for some Knick crap and Hardaway?

I don't think Smith is untradeable at all. For every player supposedly untradeable, there's always another team with another player thought to be untradeable as well. In other words if the Pistons really wanted to trade Smith, I'm sure they could find another team willing to swap their "untradeable" assets, if both feel such trade could benefit each team.

The one team I would watch is Houston. They were in discussions with Atlanta this summer about a sign & trade for Smith to pair with Howard. They also have two "untradeable" contracts in Lin/Asik. The Pistons were rumored to be in talks with Houston for Lin this summer. The Celtics were rumored to be in talks with Houston for Asik a few months ago. And the Pistons have always had interest in Jeff Green going back to the 2007 draft. So, I could see a deal like this possibly happening and benefitting all teams involved:

Detroit: Jeff Green, Jeremy Lin

Houston: Josh Smith

Boston: Omer Asik

Houston desparately wants to get out of the Lin/Asik deals to have capspace this summer. Trading them for Smith would not only give them an upgrade at PF to pair with Howard, but also create ~15 million in capspace this summer to go after Carmelo.

Boston wants to get out of the Jeff Green deal and would get a starting Center whom they've coveted in the past to pair with Rondo.

For the Pistons, I like Smith and wouldn't trade him for Green straight up, but if Lin is included as well,that might be too much to pass up for a team trying to make a playoff push. It would effectively eat all of our capspace this summer, but we would already have our SF in place in Green, and Lin would provide some needed shooting/scoring as well. Plus he becomes a 15 mil expiring contract next year, so we would then have capspace again the following summer. It would also allow us to deal Stuckey for other assets/picks, having Lin to replace him off the bench.

The thing I like about Green too is he can play PF and be a stretch 4. So it could even allow you the option to not resign Monroe still and get another asset for him as well, already having a PF to replace him in Green. All in all it could be a win-win for all teams involved.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lcopwo2

I'd do this. Lin is producing well despite his staggered minutes and arguably more intelligent than Jennings. And Green gives us an actual SF production and we let the twin towers see if they can coexist before any re-signing occurs.

*Applause*

[Neptune]

Just read this on SWR-




If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

I don't buy that the Bobcats have any interest in Monroe. They already have Zeller, McRoberts, and Jefferson. Even if offered MKG, I'll more than likely pass on a MKG for Monroe deal.

Zeller, McRoberts and Jefferson???? Jefferson can score but the other two are not in Monroe's league. Charlotte would love to pick up Monroe. Zeller was a reach when they drafted him and it was thought he could be a stretch 4 since he certainly can't play center with the big boys, but he can't even do that.

My concern is getting a good player and teammate in MKG, but I think he shoots worse than Smith Although MKG realizes that and doesn't chuck up bad shots all day.

Maybe I was too quick to judge. I'll check MKG's stats out.

Why would the Bobcats want two nonathletic and two non-defensive players like Jefferson/Monroe starting together? That question makes me think they wouldn't have any interest in Monroe. Monroe is basically a young taller version of Al Jefferson. Maybe the Bobcats offer Jefferson, MKG for Monroe? Would you accept?

[Q00]

Just read this on SWR-

The Charlotte Bobcats are one of the many teams showing interest in getting Monroe. The Bobcats appear to be heavy buyers before the trade deadline, negotiating with several teams. According to Basketball Insider, Monroe is on the team's radar despite Charlotte not really needing a player like him. However, they are in search of talent and Monroe is certainly that.

The Bobcats are prepared to offer someone like Ben Gordon who is also on an expiring contract or young talent like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It would take a lot to pry Monroe away from Detroit so the Bobcats would likely have to toss in a draft pick to win them over.

If we could get MKG and our pick back I might do it.

What's SWR? Link?

That would be hiilarious if we traded Monroe for Gordon and our pick back. The Smith haters would go crazy

Even though MKG can't shoot, I would really consider this deal only for him because of his defensive ability. Our offense could be troublesome, but the defensive potential of a lineup featuring KCP/MKG/Smith/Drummond is very intriguing. And honestly our offense wouldn't be much worse than it is now. Figure Smith replaces everything Monroe gave you at PF, offensively, in terms of the post ability. Then you have MKG at SF who isn't really much worse of a shooter than Smith is now. So while it doesn't really change anything offensively, it could have a dramatic improvement defensively, and offense isn't really our problem anyways - its defense. Particularly perimeter defense and MKG is a hound on the ball. With a duo of MKG/KCP on the perimeter, I can't imagine us having those issues still, and with a duo of shotblockers like Drummond/Smith in the paint, that could be a scary defense.

Pistons should strongly consider this deal.

[theBigLip]

Good link on some trade rumors http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... ade-fence/

[Q00]

Good link on some trade rumors http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... ade-fence/

yeah I was just reading that. Lots of stuff on the Pistons. If I'm reading that correctly, it sounds like Washington has been going hard at us with offers for Monroe, even offering Beal, but the Pistons aren't budging. It sounds lke the Pistons are either playing some serious negotiation games, taking this to the 11th hour for the best possible offers, or are just really not interested in dealing any of these guys.

From the article:

The Washington Wizards would like to make a trade. In fact sources close to the situation peg Washington as the top suitor for Detroit’s Greg Monroe. The problem is they can’t get any traction. The Wizards have trade chips. They have the ending contract of Trevor Ariza and Marcin Gortat. Rookie Otto Porter has been mentioned more than once as has second year guard Brad Beal. Not necessarily because Washington wants to move them, but because they are trying to shake loose a real trade. They just are not getting there.

If you can figure the Detroit Pistons out, bravo. If there is a team in the East that needs to make a roster-changing trade it’s Detroit, but more and more teams are saying Detroit is holding the line. The Pistons have several ending contracts that have value – most notably Rodney Stuckey. They have a pending restricted free agent in Greg Monroe that could return real value and the Pistons seem to be sitting this one out. Several teams have called only to find Detroit reluctant to engage. That could clearly change over the next 15 days, especially as the finality of the deadline approaches, but as much as the Pistons need to make a deal they seem the most unwilling to entertain one.

[pollack419]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=le9yp24

We become

Jenning / Will / Sliva
KCP / Lamb / Billiups
Singler / Lugi / Mitchel
Ikaba / JJ / CV
Drummond / Perk / Josh

[Spider156]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ldaa8bb

I would definitely do this trade. Please give me your thoughts/comments

How does it help the Pistons? We still don't have a SF out of this deal. We'd get a SG in Turner who may have plateaued and would just take minutes from a developing KCP, and we'd also get another PF so we'd still have a quandry with Smith and SF. Meanwhile, we just gave up our best trade asset in Monroe. If we're moving Monroe, we need to get a good young SF in return.

Turner is the SF. I would put him there. I think he definitely has the size to play SF full time and has played SF for 76ers. If Singler can do it, I think Turner can. I see Turner with Iggy potential. He just needs the right environment to thrive.

[Spider156]

Good link on some trade rumors http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... ade-fence/

yeah I was just reading that. Lots of stuff on the Pistons. If I'm reading that correctly, it sounds like Washington has been going hard at us with offers for Monroe, even offering Beal, but the Pistons aren't budging. It sounds lke the Pistons are either playing some serious negotiation games, taking this to the 11th hour for the best possible offers, or are just really not interested in dealing any of these guys.

From the article:

The Washington Wizards would like to make a trade. In fact sources close to the situation peg Washington as the top suitor for Detroit’s Greg Monroe. The problem is they can’t get any traction. The Wizards have trade chips. They have the ending contract of Trevor Ariza and Marcin Gortat. Rookie Otto Porter has been mentioned more than once as has second year guard Brad Beal. Not necessarily because Washington wants to move them, but because they are trying to shake loose a real trade. They just are not getting there.

If you can figure the Detroit Pistons out, bravo. If there is a team in the East that needs to make a roster-changing trade it’s Detroit, but more and more teams are saying Detroit is holding the line. The Pistons have several ending contracts that have value – most notably Rodney Stuckey. They have a pending restricted free agent in Greg Monroe that could return real value and the Pistons seem to be sitting this one out. Several teams have called only to find Detroit reluctant to engage. That could clearly change over the next 15 days, especially as the finality of the deadline approaches, but as much as the Pistons need to make a deal they seem the most unwilling to entertain one.

I think Dumars is pulling legs here. I definitely think he's waiting for the big catch. He knows Monroe's value is sky high and how teams overrate offensive bigs. He wanted Cousins over him for a reason. I think he will be trade by the trade deadline. It's a just a matter of how much can he get for Monroe.