Trade deadline thread

[Canadafan]

Cade/Hayes
Ivey/Burks
Free Agent/Livers
Bogdonovich/Stewart
Duren/Bagley(please trade)/Wiseman

Plus a great draft pick

Looks solid to me. Start Bojan at 3 and Wemby at 4 and we goooood.
Will be interesting to see who we get as a free agent.
If we dont luck out and draft Wemby then maybe Grant is the play

[Piston Pete]

It’s Wemby or bust time.

Although Weaver might cream his pants if he was able to get another PG. Our roster will soon be all PG’s and C’s.

[MortSahlfan]

Memphis getting Kennard is a low key great move. A knock down shooter. Exactly what they needed.

Kennard is going to get a ton of open looks there too.

And pass them up, too. Ty Lue kept telling Luke to stop passing them up, that he shoots such a high %, but.,....

[a8bil]

GSW fan here...it's gonna be interesting to see if/how Wiseman develops with you. With COVID and injuries, he's basically a 1 year player who had no real college experience. You'll see that he has some nice offensive skills, which is a byproduct of him training with Penny. With a good passing guard I can see JW easily score upwards of 20 ppg on high efficiency. His big man skills and defensive awareness are lacking, however. He seems to want to improve, but he does get down on himself. Improvement there will keep him on the court. With GSW, in a win-now mode, JW has not and was not going to get meaningful playing time. Hope he can fulfill his vast potential with Detroit.

[chrbal]

So we’re trying the twin towers thing again and we kept both Burks and Bogey? So who’s a good candidate to be the next next Piston GM?

Like I get Bey wasn’t great, but it makes more sense to ride out his rookie contract then see if Wiseman can play in the NBA more effectively then Bagley.

Safe to say we’re going to see another weaver free agent big not last into his second season in Detroit.

Now I get to see what random member of the Cruise we bring in and act like him getting an opportunity was a critical move to do.

[Piston Pete]

So we’re trying the twin towers thing again and we kept both Burks and Bey? So who’s a good candidate to be the next next Piston GM?

Like I get Bey wasn’t great, but it makes more sense to ride out his rookie contract then see if Wiseman can play in the NBA more effectively then Bagley.

Safe to say we’re going to see another weaver free agent big not last into his second season in Detroit.

Now I get to see what random member of the Cruise we bring in and act like him getting an opportunity was a critical move to do.

Kept Burks and Bogey…but pretty much agree with your take here

[russkopp]

Sooo, we’ll get off Noel’s money and Cojo’s this summer. I think I heard cap room will be around $30 million for us. Bey to Wiseman is, I think, a $7 million dollar increase. So we’ll have low to mid $20 million dollars for a SF (possibly Jerami again).

That’s our team…our draft pick and the meh cap space.
God help us if we don’t get the first pick…

[tradez401]

i just woke up and i see we traded bey/knox for wiseman oh man thats a terrible deal hands down weavers worst trade to date.

[kellmellus50]

i just woke up and i see we traded bey/knox for wiseman oh man thats a terrible deal hands down weavers worst trade to date.

You can't judge this trade until Wiseman finishes the season ,then you will be saying that was a great trade.

[CDM_Stats]

He was in the best possible situation for a bigman in GSW. With the perimeter talent on that team, the spacing is probably the best in the league, let alone being surrounded by playmakers.

His path towards relevancy in Detroit sure seems to be far more uphill than it was in California.

Couldnt disagree more with all of this. Warriors reward ability to adapt to Steph/Draymond, or big time BBIQ. Wiseman was effectively coming straight from HS, were schemes are simple. He usually got the ball at the block in HS, but W's dont operate that way. Its high-pick motion offense, where the screener has to read what Steph/Draymond do. Its why Wiseman was very successful with the PnR with Poole and Ty Jerome, guys who aren't BBIQ+s.

Its why guys like Jamychal Green struggle, and why guys like Bjelica were fine. The system is built on smarts and experience, and Wiseman was behind the 8ball due to a ton of circumstances (his college "career", COVID ruining his 1st preseason, injury ruining his 2nd pre and entire season, etc)

Replace hype with context and you guys should be very excited. Probably would be more excited if Duren wasnt here already but still.. when its all said and done, I'd bet Detroit fans will be happy with this trade, with a solid chance of it being a heist

So a low Bball IQ center that struggles with adaptabilty?

Sounds like a great fit for Casey's piss poor excuse of an "offense" with no real structure or fluidity.

lol thats a bit pessimistic, overall point being the usual avenues for a young player to improve weren't there for Wiseman, but he's being beaten down as a conclusively bad player. He doesn't seem to be one, just one who didn't know how to play with Steph and Dray straight out of HS, something a lot of NBA veterans cant even do. He just needs to stay healthy, because everytime he did, he started improving quite a bit. But then an injury would derail him and set him back

[chrbal]

So we’re trying the twin towers thing again and we kept both Burks and Bey? So who’s a good candidate to be the next next Piston GM?

Like I get Bey wasn’t great, but it makes more sense to ride out his rookie contract then see if Wiseman can play in the NBA more effectively then Bagley.

Safe to say we’re going to see another weaver free agent big not last into his second season in Detroit.

Now I get to see what random member of the Cruise we bring in and act like him getting an opportunity was a critical move to do.

Kept Burks and Bogey…but pretty much agree with your take here

Sped through it, also frustrated with the indirect direction of this team.

[CDM_Stats]

He was in the best possible situation for a bigman in GSW. With the perimeter talent on that team, the spacing is probably the best in the league, let alone being surrounded by playmakers.

His path towards relevancy in Detroit sure seems to be far more uphill than it was in California.

Couldnt disagree more with all of this. Warriors reward ability to adapt to Steph/Draymond, or big time BBIQ. Wiseman was effectively coming straight from HS, were schemes are simple. He usually got the ball at the block in HS, but W's dont operate that way. Its high-pick motion offense, where the screener has to read what Steph/Draymond do. Its why Wiseman was very successful with the PnR with Poole and Ty Jerome, guys who aren't BBIQ+s.

Its why guys like Jamychal Green struggle, and why guys like Bjelica were fine. The system is built on smarts and experience, and Wiseman was behind the 8ball due to a ton of circumstances (his college "career", COVID ruining his 1st preseason, injury ruining his 2nd pre and entire season, etc)

Replace hype with context and you guys should be very excited. Probably would be more excited if Duren wasnt here already but still.. when its all said and done, I'd bet Detroit fans will be happy with this trade, with a solid chance of it being a heist

I remember the same exact thing said about Greg Oden.

Monster talent derailed by injuries? I guess its a way lesser version in both ways - Wiseman isn't a generational talent and while he's injury prone, he's not catastrophically injured.. if he stays healthy, he'll be a good C in a lot shorter time than most seem to think. The critiques of his defensive awareness are bunk though. He was actually very sound positionally, the game was just too fast for him. A split second late on challenges.. stuff like that. But he picked up our defensive rotations well and actually was doing good before his ankle getting rolled in January

Way more concerning is his rebounding. His hands are below average and while he'll try for position, he's easily moved off that position. That's more a result of him being imbalanced - he muscled up his upper body while his lower body recovered over those 18 months, so he doesnt have the leg strength to hold rebounding position. Doesnt read rebounds particularly well either.

[chrbal]

It’s absolutely insane that we dealt Bey for Wiseman when we probably could’ve got Bamba for just Noel.

It’s also insane that I’m a little jealous of a team getting Bamba.

Weaver’s hopeful eventual goal needs to start showing up next season.

[tradez401]

It’s absolutely insane that we dealt Bey for Wiseman when we probably could’ve got Bamba for just Noel.

It’s also insane that I’m a little jealous of a team getting Bamba.

Weaver’s hopeful eventual goal needs to start showing up next season.

if weaver wanted another big with size bamba wouldve been a much better option. also bey shouldve been traded for a 3 and d wing.

[chrbal]

It’s absolutely insane that we dealt Bey for Wiseman when we probably could’ve got Bamba for just Noel.

It’s also insane that I’m a little jealous of a team getting Bamba.

Weaver’s hopeful eventual goal needs to start showing up next season.

if weaver wanted another big with size bamba wouldve been a much better option. also bey shouldve been traded for a 3 and d wing.

Was hoping, if we were going to trade Bey, for him to be dealt for one of Brooklyns pair (Finney-Smith or O’Neale).

[Piston Pete]

It’s absolutely insane that we dealt Bey for Wiseman when we probably could’ve got Bamba for just Noel.

It’s also insane that I’m a little jealous of a team getting Bamba.

Weaver’s hopeful eventual goal needs to start showing up next season.

if weaver wanted another big with size bamba wouldve been a much better option. also bey shouldve been traded for a 3 and d wing.

Was hoping, if we were going to trade Bey, for him to be dealt for one of Brooklyns pair (Finney-Smith or O’Neale).

Brooklyn now has DFS, O’Neale, Bridges, Cam Johnson, and Joe Harris

[chrbal]

if weaver wanted another big with size bamba wouldve been a much better option. also bey shouldve been traded for a 3 and d wing.

Was hoping, if we were going to trade Bey, for him to be dealt for one of Brooklyns pair (Finney-Smith or O’Neale).

Brooklyn now has DFS, O’Neale, Bridges, Cam Johnson, and Joe Harris

Ok so Bey to Atlanta for 5 seconds (when did it become normal to trade that many seconds?) and then swap those to Brooklyn.

Obviously didn’t list all the details to a trade that can no longer happen

[Piston Pete]

Yeah, too bad we couldn’t have sent a couple 2nds and/or Noel to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson.

And too bad we weren’t able to swindle Baldwin from GS.

We could have drastically improved our team shooting, at least.

SF - Bogey / Johnson / Baldwin (all can play spot minutes at PF as well)

[Snakebites]

Losing Bey is not a big deal to me.

It's pretty clear that Weaver valued Wiseman more highly than anyone else did, and it's not clear why he should- we've already got multiple young centers.

[buzzkilloton]

Weaver now has his number 1 prospect from 2020 and his number 2 prospect from 2018 in Bagley. Look out.