2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft

[NYPiston]

The more I read about Jalen Green the more I think he should be the #2 option for the Pistons. Plus he has G-League experience and I'd take that over a college one-and-done. Preferred order if they're available when the Pistons pick:

#1 - Cade
#2 - Green
#3 - Suggs, with the idea that between him and Hayes, someone is going to be PG and someone is going to be SG, or maybe both
#4 - Obviously Mobley

Flip Green and Suggs and I think that one of those two scenarios is the order those players are going to be picked regardless of who's picking.

That's my order too. I like Suggs as a player more than Green but Green is quite obviously the better fit. I think you and I are the only ones that have Mobley 4th but I just can't justify taking a big guy who is not elite offensively top 3 unless it was a weak draft at the top which it isn't this year. I'd be more than happy picking him if the others are off the board though.

Also, and I might be in the minority, but I see Kuminga as part of a "Big 5". He's raw but he has as much upside as anybody in this draft. He'd certainly be in contention for #1 in last years' draft. This is why it's so important for the Pistons to finish 2nd, 80% chance of a top 5 pick.

[zeebneeb]

The more I read about Jalen Green the more I think he should be the #2 option for the Pistons. Plus he has G-League experience and I'd take that over a college one-and-done. Preferred order if they're available when the Pistons pick:

#1 - Cade
#2 - Green
#3 - Suggs, with the idea that between him and Hayes, someone is going to be PG and someone is going to be SG, or maybe both
#4 - Obviously Mobley

Flip Green and Suggs and I think that one of those two scenarios is the order those players are going to be picked regardless of who's picking.

Yup. As I've repeated numerous times, I am wary of Bigs in today's game, and they should be considered the last piece. Stewart, if he keeps improving will be just fine.

I'll go further then you. I am at a hardline. I don't want a C, or PF. I want a scoring gaurd.

1.)Cade

2.)Green

3.)Suggs

4.)Bouknight

4 is going to be controversial, but this kid can flat-out score the damn ball. If the Pistons land at 4, and Mobley is all that remains? I trade that for Bouknight, and another pick. I want that 20+ppg scorer.

[440BB]

I have trouble seeing Mobley attaining enough weight and strength to exploit his talent level in the NBA. I'd be worried about him holding up to practicing against Stewart. We'll know better two years from now but it's not a risk I would take in the top three, maybe even the top five.

[NYPiston]

Yup. As I've repeated numerous times, I am wary of Bigs in today's game, and they should be considered the last piece. Stewart, if he keeps improving will be just fine.

I'll go further then you. I am at a hardline. I don't want a C, or PF. I want a scoring gaurd.

1.)Cade

2.)Green

3.)Suggs

4.)Bouknight

4 is going to be controversial, but this kid can flat-out score the damn ball. If the Pistons land at 4, and Mobley is all that remains? I trade that for Bouknight, and another pick. I want that 20+ppg scorer.

It's funny you say that because James Edwards III was speculating about a week? ago that Weaver would take Bouknight 5th because he really wants a scorer in this draft. He also said that Grant and Plumlee would be shut down for the season and they wound up playing the Philly game so who knows.

In any event, if they're sitting in 4th and Mobley and Kuminga are sitting there and they really want Bouknight, they need to trade down for a haul. Reaching at 4 for Bouknight would be foolish when the value of that pick would be sky high and you could more than likely get him at 6 and lower. Trade down to 6 and you could get an extra 1st and still get your guy.

[flow]

I want to like Mobley. And if he becomes what his advocates say he will become, then I do like him. A player with his size & skill-set is rarer than that of a volume scoring guard, even a great one. Him being Sheed to Stewart's Ben (so to speak) is an enticing thought. And Weaver keeps telling us his goal is to remake the great Pistons teams.

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[vic]

I'm getting worried about all this talk that Weaver wants a chucker.

I'm just now getting comfortable with Jalen Green. He's elite. I think he's good enough to be better than a scoring guard off the bench.

I don't know if I can stomach a scorer less elite that Green. Not interested in small chuckers that could easily get locked up by a big wing in a playoff series.

[Drwho17]

Would Kemba and Smart be enough to get #2 and salary?

Kemba
Smart
Bey
Grant
Stewart

Hell of a team moving forward and should easily make playoffs next season.


Or would it take brown to get the pick?

Hell of a team? We would be worse than you guys still and you're a playin team. Pistons are in tanking position why would we want to "easily make the playoffs" with no upside to win titles?

Nobody wants your damaged players. Ainge should of ponied up more stuff when guys like Harden and Leonard were on the table. Instead he held all the goods and now you guys arent in the elite grouping of Eastern conf teams anymore.

Don't forget Turner that he could have had this year, but didn't want him and McDermott, rather have the Hayward TPE rotting away. That team with Turner/McDermott this year would be a lot better. Ainge over values his assets, he's not played the market right and has his team headed into treadmill land.

[zeebneeb]

Yup. As I've repeated numerous times, I am wary of Bigs in today's game, and they should be considered the last piece. Stewart, if he keeps improving will be just fine.

I'll go further then you. I am at a hardline. I don't want a C, or PF. I want a scoring gaurd.

1.)Cade

2.)Green

3.)Suggs

4.)Bouknight

4 is going to be controversial, but this kid can flat-out score the damn ball. If the Pistons land at 4, and Mobley is all that remains? I trade that for Bouknight, and another pick. I want that 20+ppg scorer.

It's funny you say that because James Edwards III was speculating about a week? ago that Weaver would take Bouknight 5th because he really wants a scorer in this draft. He also said that Grant and Plumlee would be shut down for the season and they wound up playing the Philly game so who knows.

In any event, if they're sitting in 4th and Mobley and Kuminga are sitting there and they really want Bouknight, they need to trade down for a haul. Reaching at 4 for Bouknight would be foolish when the value of that pick would be sky high and you could more than likely get him at 6 and lower. Trade down to 6 and you could get an extra 1st and still get your guy.

Oh I agree thats why I said trade it to select Bouknight, and another pick.

Bigs in today's game are the weakest link, unless your Jokic, Embiid, or...I'm not sure.

Here's hoping the Pistons land one of Cade, Green, or Suggs(definite 3rd)so no uncertainty clouds the damn team going into next year. Piston fans have suffered tremendously for well over a decade now, and also have sat thru the worst draft pick at #2 perhaps of all time.

We deserve a legit star out of the NBA draft damn it.

[vic]

Would Kemba and Smart be enough to get #2 and salary?

Kemba
Smart
Bey
Grant
Stewart

Hell of a team moving forward and should easily make playoffs next season.


Or would it take brown to get the pick?

Hell of a team? We would be worse than you guys still and you're a playin team. Pistons are in tanking position why would we want to "easily make the playoffs" with no upside to win titles?

Nobody wants your damaged players. Ainge should of ponied up more stuff when guys like Harden and Leonard were on the table. Instead he held all the goods and now you guys arent in the elite grouping of Eastern conf teams anymore.

Don't forget Turner that he could have had this year, but didn't want him and McDermott, rather have the Hayward TPE rotting away. That team with Turner/McDermott this year would be a lot better. Ainge over values his assets, he's not played the market right and has his team headed into treadmill land.

Danny really messed up when he got rid of Scary Terry... still not sure what he didn’t see in Terry Rozier.

They were better with Terry than with Kyrie, let alone Kemba.

[tmorgan]

So...

Cade: everybody loves him. No real weaknesses, though some doubt his extreme upside as an All-NBA type.
Green: elite athlete, shot creator. Concerns with tunnel vision and defense.
Suggs: prototypical lead guard, thinker. Concerns with shooting stroke.
Mobley: elite rim protector, balanced and strong skill set. Concern with body type and perhaps motor.
Kuminga: athetlic, versatile forward. Many concerns, including shot selection, passing, and defense.

Nobody is perfect, although Cade is closer. Once you get past these guys, it’s all about Weaver’s eye and the scouts. Bouknight is someone I definitely do not want, 6th or 10th or even 20th. He has Kuminga’s shot selection and doesn’t have his potential. I’m not at all sure what we should be doing if the balls don’t go our way, but it’s not that guy.

[tradez401]

Would Kemba and Smart be enough to get #2 and salary?

Kemba
Smart
Bey
Grant
Stewart

Hell of a team moving forward and should easily make playoffs next season.


Or would it take brown to get the pick?

If SVG was still in charge in Detroit I'd see him making that move better than him drafting another bust player.

[buzzkilloton]

Yup. As I've repeated numerous times, I am wary of Bigs in today's game, and they should be considered the last piece. Stewart, if he keeps improving will be just fine.

I'll go further then you. I am at a hardline. I don't want a C, or PF. I want a scoring gaurd.

1.)Cade

2.)Green

3.)Suggs

4.)Bouknight

4 is going to be controversial, but this kid can flat-out score the damn ball. If the Pistons land at 4, and Mobley is all that remains? I trade that for Bouknight, and another pick. I want that 20+ppg scorer.

It's funny you say that because James Edwards III was speculating about a week? ago that Weaver would take Bouknight 5th because he really wants a scorer in this draft. He also said that Grant and Plumlee would be shut down for the season and they wound up playing the Philly game so who knows.

In any event, if they're sitting in 4th and Mobley and Kuminga are sitting there and they really want Bouknight, they need to trade down for a haul. Reaching at 4 for Bouknight would be foolish when the value of that pick would be sky high and you could more than likely get him at 6 and lower. Trade down to 6 and you could get an extra 1st and still get your guy.

Oh I agree thats why I said trade it to select Bouknight, and another pick.

Bigs in today's game are the weakest link, unless your Jokic, Embiid, or...I'm not sure.

Here's hoping the Pistons land one of Cade, Green, or Suggs(definite 3rd)so no uncertainty clouds the damn team going into next year. Piston fans have suffered tremendously for well over a decade now, and also have sat thru the worst draft pick at #2 perhaps of all time.

We deserve a legit star out of the NBA draft damn it.

Jokic Embiid are 1 and 2 in the MVP race and both key ingredients too contenders. AD was 1B to LBJs 1A on last years title team. Gobert is the biggest impact player to the team with the best record in the league. Bam A was huge for the Heats finals run last season. Are bigs really dead or did we just have a small blip of time where the league was lacking great big men and the Warriors were really good plus Lebron dominance for so long where he won on some non Bosh teams.

[buzzkilloton]

I'm getting worried about all this talk that Weaver wants a chucker.

I'm just now getting comfortable with Jalen Green. He's elite. I think he's good enough to be better than a scoring guard off the bench.

I don't know if I can stomach a scorer less elite that Green. Not interested in small chuckers that could easily get locked up by a big wing in a playoff series.

I wouldnt worry about Bouknight being used with our 1st pick. If Weaver is targeting him its going to be a trade up in the mid-late first round.

[Manocad]

So...

Cade: everybody loves him. No real weaknesses, though some doubt his extreme upside as an All-NBA type.
Green: elite athlete, shot creator. Concerns with tunnel vision and defense.
Suggs: prototypical lead guard, thinker. Concerns with shooting stroke.
Mobley: elite rim protector, balanced and strong skill set. Concern with body type and perhaps motor.
Kuminga: athetlic, versatile forward. Many concerns, including shot selection, passing, and defense.

Nobody is perfect, although Cade is closer. Once you get past these guys, it’s all about Weaver’s eye and the scouts. Bouknight is someone I definitely do not want, 6th or 10th or even 20th. He has Kuminga’s shot selection and doesn’t have his potential. I’m not at all sure what we should be doing if the balls don’t go our way, but it’s not that guy.

Davion Mitchell is my pick. Awesome last name. And a good player too.

[jakebernat]

Moses moody is another guy I actually really like. he could be a real sleeper in this draft.

[FloridaMan78]

Moses moody is another guy I actually really like. he could be a real sleeper in this draft.

I really like Moody too. I like his floor. I like Bouknight for his ceiling.

Moody is a great catch and shoot 3 point shooter, but is awful at the rim. Bouknight is good at the rim and iso ball and dribble pull up 3s but awful at catch and shoot 3s. Both should be available later in the lottery, but I don’t even want to think we won’t be in the top 4.

[vic]

It's funny you say that because James Edwards III was speculating about a week? ago that Weaver would take Bouknight 5th because he really wants a scorer in this draft. He also said that Grant and Plumlee would be shut down for the season and they wound up playing the Philly game so who knows.

In any event, if they're sitting in 4th and Mobley and Kuminga are sitting there and they really want Bouknight, they need to trade down for a haul. Reaching at 4 for Bouknight would be foolish when the value of that pick would be sky high and you could more than likely get him at 6 and lower. Trade down to 6 and you could get an extra 1st and still get your guy.

Oh I agree thats why I said trade it to select Bouknight, and another pick.

Bigs in today's game are the weakest link, unless your Jokic, Embiid, or...I'm not sure.

Here's hoping the Pistons land one of Cade, Green, or Suggs(definite 3rd)so no uncertainty clouds the damn team going into next year. Piston fans have suffered tremendously for well over a decade now, and also have sat thru the worst draft pick at #2 perhaps of all time.

We deserve a legit star out of the NBA draft damn it.

Jokic Embiid are 1 and 2 in the MVP race and both key ingredients too contenders. AD was 1B to LBJs 1A on last years title team. Gobert is the biggest impact player to the team with the best record in the league. Bam A was huge for the Heats finals run last season. Are bigs really dead or did we just have a small blip of time where the league was lacking great big men and the Warriors were really good plus Lebron dominance for so long where he won on some non Bosh teams.

I never ever listen to the whole "big men are dead" nonsense. I like completely ignore it.

It doesn't apply to bigs with wing skills or point guard, and it's a complete disconnection with the reality of what is actually happening in NBA basketball games.

"Unskilled players are irrelevant" that should be the whole conversation. Size has NOTHING to do with it.

[DetroitSho]

Oh I agree thats why I said trade it to select Bouknight, and another pick.

Bigs in today's game are the weakest link, unless your Jokic, Embiid, or...I'm not sure.

Here's hoping the Pistons land one of Cade, Green, or Suggs(definite 3rd)so no uncertainty clouds the damn team going into next year. Piston fans have suffered tremendously for well over a decade now, and also have sat thru the worst draft pick at #2 perhaps of all time.

We deserve a legit star out of the NBA draft damn it.

Jokic Embiid are 1 and 2 in the MVP race and both key ingredients too contenders. AD was 1B to LBJs 1A on last years title team. Gobert is the biggest impact player to the team with the best record in the league. Bam A was huge for the Heats finals run last season. Are bigs really dead or did we just have a small blip of time where the league was lacking great big men and the Warriors were really good plus Lebron dominance for so long where he won on some non Bosh teams.

I never ever listen to the whole "big men are dead" nonsense. I like completely ignore it.

It doesn't apply to bigs with wing skills or point guard, and it's a complete disconnection with the reality of what is actually happening in NBA basketball games.

"Unskilled players are irrelevant" that should be the whole conversation. Size has NOTHING to do with it.

I lean on the side of this as well. I'm baffled at how far out of favor Mobley has fallen for some people who had him going as high as #1. He was always a big, he was always skinny and he always was what he was. I don't even know what he did to have people completely flip on him.

Wings have been the more important position for awhile but still some people had him going 1st. But all of a sudden people are willing trade out of 4 if we're "left" with him at 4? Somebody fill me in.

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[NYPiston]

I lean on the side of this as well. I'm baffled at how far out of favor Mobley has fallen for some people who had him going as high as #1. He was always a big, he was always skinny and he always was what he was. I don't even know what he did to have people completely flip on him.

Wings have been the more important position for awhile but still some people had him going 1st. But all of a sudden people are willing trade out of 4 if we're "left" with him at 4? Somebody fill me in.

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I watched him play a good 10 or so times this year and my impression is that his main calling card is his elite defensive ability with his ability to alter shots and guard multiple positions. What makes him unique is that he's a big who can defend all positions and especially on the perimeter. I think he'll be a star defensively at the pro level.

My issues with him are two things, that he's really soft, I don't see any real stand out skill offensively and he tended to fade into the background in crunch time moments. He's so young and raw in some aspects so maybe there's growth potential in his offensive game that I haven't seen yet but I'd have a hard time justifying taking him over the other top prospects who have the potential to be a go to option, big shot maker. I see that in Cade, Suggs and Green, I don't see that in Mobley so that's why I have him 4th.

[jakebernat]

I still love the idea of Mobley playing next to Stewart, but I get the concern not nabbing a go-to guy on the perimeter. it’s possible that we bank on internal growth to fill that void, but i’m just happy to at least be getting another good young player. let’s fill in the blanks later.