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3. Youngblood: Greg Monroe
Greg Monroe is a big part of the team -along with Andre Drummond. He is arguably Detroit’s best player at the moment - and he was only drafted in 2010.
But at the end of that season, he had proved to be one of the most solid and consistent rookies.
According to SynergySports, Monroe is most successful when he's put in situations where he's moving, such as when he's cutting (running from the wing to catch a pass from the player who has the ball) and when he's the screener in the pick-and-roll (setting a screen for a teammate handling the ball then taking a pass as he slips behind the opposing defender).
Recent figures show that he shoots 57.1 percent and scores 1.15 points per possession in the pick-and-roll, and 64.1 percent with 1.17 points per possession as the cutter. This is good shooting and point-scoring.
4. Winning at home, losing on the road
Detroit have an abysmal record of losing on the road. At home, Monroe has a higher shooting percentage than he does when he’s away. Also, he is only put into cutter and screener positions, where he is most dominant, 18.3% of the time. Why not play him in his most effective positions more when Detroit are on the road?

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Wow.
So Greg is most efficient when he's not playing the role of point guard - he's actually best when playing with a point guard that can get him the ball... And it took someone from the UK to figure this out?

"Trey Burke... meet Joe Dumars, and your new shooting guard of the future - Brandon Knight"

And, I thought this would be a thread about Kitchen Cabinets . . .

So Greg is most efficient when he's not playing the role of point guard

FYI. Greg never played PG before. I knew that all along.

Anyways, we already are discussing this in the Brandon Knight thread. Thanks for the stats.

BadMofoPimp wrote:And, I thought this would be a thread about Kitchen Cabinets . . .

So Greg is most efficient when he's not playing the role of point guard

FYI. Greg never played PG before. I knew that all along.

Anyways, we already are discussing this in the Brandon Knight thread. Thanks for the stats.

Burke is a score first PG. Idk, I would just put the ball in Knight's hand's and give him more time, and give him some shooters that he can actually assist.It would spread the floor for the hole team, including Knight and Monroe who need necessary space to penetrate.

If Trey Burke played for UCLA 99% of Pistons fans wouldnt have ever heard of him. Now hes the next Isiah Thomas when hes most likely a poor mans Mateen Cleaves.

Warspite wrote:If Trey Burke played for UCLA 99% of Pistons fans wouldnt have ever heard of him. Now hes the next Isiah Thomas when hes most likely a poor mans Mateen Cleaves.

Good point... both DX & NBADRAFTNET have Burke at #20... let's not overvalue him.
It looked like he was having a hard time getting by the Ohio State defenders (much less nba guards)... then there's the defensive issue being posted up (Rose says hi).
I think he'll be a good reliable backup in this league.

Trey Burke is from Columbus and wanted to go to Ohio State but didn't get a scholarship offer. Why do I feel like this boards' love affair with him would be drastically different if he got his first choice? Remember when the team blew a pick on Mateen Cleaves, he was on a similar prospect level of Burke.

Not trying get an attitude, just standing behind my statement with an educational approach:

Mateen Cleaves eFG .483 as a senior TS .525
Rebounds 1.8
Steal 1.4
Blocks .2

Isaiah Thomas (sacramento not hof) eFG .517 TS .563
Reb 3.5
Steal 1.3
Blk .1

Trey Burke eFG .590 TS .615
Reb 3.1
Steal 1.2
Blocks .4

Kyrie Irving eFG .615 TS .697
Reb 3.5
Steal 1.5
Blk .5

EFG is a measure of overall shooting and ability to space the floor not counting drawing fouls. TS includes fouls, an indication of ability to score by getting to the bucket. If neither TS or eFG is over 550 the player is a waste on offense.

Rebounds steals and blocks are a measure of in-game athleticism, the athleticism that counts. It translates to defensive ability.

Mateen was a bust before he hit the Nba. Isaiah Thomas has a fighting chance with his ability to get to the hole, and his 2/1 assist/to ratio in the NCAA. That's why I knew he would make it. He's a starter.

Trey Burke spaces the floor and gets to the rim at star level. And he has an assist/to ratio better than Isaiah or Kyrie. He is near the same level defensively as Kyrie, but with a slightly longer wingspan (Draftexpress).

Kyrie is star level at shooting and superstar at driving. Weak defensively though.

Chris Paul is on another plane because he had the athleticism to defend shooting guards in a point guards body. And his freshman scoring numbers were on superstar level. I'll let you look those up on sports-reference .com

That's why I say that Trey will be somewhere between a starter (Isaiah Thomas 1st year) and a star ( Kyrie Irving first year) if he is given a chance. He'll be an above average starter that passes more like Chris Paul than Kyrie Irving - so an above average starter that makes his team better On offense and needs his team to make him better on defense. That's better than 75% of pgs in the league, and it won't take 4 years. All these players showed who they were 1st year ( when they got a chance).