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What is your best lineup, WITH EXISTING PLAYERS, to make a run for the playoffs??

For me, I've got no choice but to change my opinion!!

Bynum/Knight
Knight/Stuck/Singler
Prince/Singler/Daye
Moose/CV/Max
AD/Moose/Max

Monroe / Drummond
Maxiell / CV
Prince / Jonas
Singler / Knight
Bynum / Knight

vege wrote:Monroe / Drummond
Maxiell / CV
Prince / Jonas
Singler / Knight
Bynum / Knight

Really?? You're quitting on Stuck & Daye, and leaving Dre on the bench??

retrolenny wrote:

vege wrote:Monroe / Drummond
Maxiell / CV
Prince / Jonas
Singler / Knight
Bynum / Knight

Really?? You're quitting on Stuck & Daye, and leaving Dre on the bench??

yeah Daye should be in the D-league, i think stuckey is on way out.
i think we'll gonna see jerebko back in the rotation real soon

CV can only play with Drummond. Play Max/CV 15 mins a game, give Drummond 30+ off the bench.

Stuckey is garbage, he must go. Waste of 17 million dollars.

Jonas deserves a chance to play up to his strength, he is a much better player than Daye will ever be, Jonas is not a stretch 4 tho, he is a hustle player with a great mid range game. He would look great as our backup SF.

vege wrote:CV can only play with Drummond. Play Max/CV 15 mins a game, give Drummond 30+ off the bench.

Stuckey is garbage, he must go. Waste of 17 million dollars.

Jonas deserves a chance to play up to his strength, he is a much better player than Daye will ever be, Jonas is not a stretch 4 tho, he is a hustle player with a great mid range game. He would look great as our backup SF.

i agree he's clearly a SF
he got in the all-rookie 2nd team playing it

You guys are crazy if you honestly think Bynum should be starting!..And this idea of Knight starting at the 2 is banana's...I think this is our BEST line-up...

Knight/Stuckey
Stuckey/Singler
Prince/Jonas
Monroe/Maxiell/Charlie V
Drummond/Monroe

I actually agree with Jodi's lineup. Might mix in some CV and Daye if they can play a few minutes with Drummond despite starting Andre.

Stuckey has been horrendous as an off the ball player but he's been decent when healthy and on the ball. Put him on the ball in the starting lineup and then live with the Will Bynum experience surrounded by shooters off the bench.

Bynum's too bad defensively to start!

I'd go this way:

Knight/Stuckey
Singler/Stuckey
Prince/Jerebko
Monroe/DNP-CV
Drummond/Monroe

Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

Piston Prince wrote:Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

Because its a weak draft anyways...and seeds 6-8 are fluid. This team doesn't tank. We're pick in the 10-14 range or our pick goes to charlotte. I think we would have a shot agains the Pacers in the playoffs. New York and Miami are awful matchups.

Piston Prince wrote:Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

We will beat Miami with our size. We can also give our pick to the Lolcats in a weak draft and then we will have the flexibility to trade it or use it if we have some kind of setback next season. It sucks not having the pick as a trade asset.

Knight/Bynum
English/Stuckey
Prince/Singler
Monroe/Villanueva
Drummond/Maxiell

Piston Prince wrote:Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

I'll one-up you, Pete. Here's our BEST lineup, with explanation to follow —

PG — Knight* / Bynum
SG — Stuckey / Singler
SF — Prince / Singler / Jerebko
PF — Monroe* / Maxiel / Villanueva
C — Drummond* / Maxiel

Players with asterisks must play 30+ minutes every night, TOGETHER. This isn't about making the playoffs this year, it's about developing our core of Knight, Monroe and Drummond; no one else on the roster is even assured of being a Piston two years from now, in my opinion. Drummond's chemistry with Bynum is nice, but irrelevant to our long term success.

To point, check out these stats from the 2008-2009 Oklahoma City Thunder —

TEAM RECORD — 23-59
KEVIN DURANT — 39.0 MPG, .476 FG%
RUSSELL WESTBROOK — 32.5 MPG, .398 FG%
JEFF GREEN — 36.8 MPG, .446 FG%

I'm not comparing our core to theirs, but I AM comparing how they TREATED their young building block players to how we're using ours. Does anyone here really think Scott Brooks wishes he'd played Westbrook less minutes as a rookie in favor of a veteran PG who would make better decisions and shoot a higher percentage? Do you think management kicks themselves that the Thunder could've won 30 games instead of 23 that year?

And by the way, Green's inclusion here is actually very telling and very important. The Thunder THOUGHT he was part of their core, but he didn't develop or mesh with Durant and Westbrook as they hoped, so they moved him. The only way you know about young players individually and a young team as a group is to throw them into the deep end of the pool and see if they learn to swim. So it's time to start Drummond and stop yanking Knight's minutes around, no matter how much they may struggle; not only is that the only way we'll know what we've got, it's the only way this group can reach their potential — TOGETHER.

In short, making the playoffs this year shouldn't even be a consideration; making the playoffs for the rest of the decade should be. Just ask Sam Presti how taking that attitude with a young, talented, potential-rich roster worked out for his franchise.

DetroitPistons wrote:

Piston Prince wrote:Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

We will beat Miami with our size. We can also give our pick to the Lolcats in a weak draft and then we will have the flexibility to trade it or use it if we have some kind of setback next season. It sucks not having the pick as a trade asset.

I really think Miami is saying "oh lord, please don't make us face Detroit, we have no answer for the 20 minutes per game we'll see from Andre Drummond".

Miami would beat us 4-0. We have NO answer for Lebron and their floor spacing game.

Jodi wrote:You guys are crazy if you honestly think Bynum should be starting!..And this idea of Knight starting at the 2 is banana's...I think this is our BEST line-up...

Knight/Stuckey
Stuckey/Singler
Prince/Jonas
Monroe/Maxiell/Charlie V
Drummond/Monroe

This is our best lineup. I thought Knight/Stuck did a good job taking turns handling the ball last year, and I think they can do that again despite Stuckey's absolute garbage start to the season.

I also want to see Jonas get a chance. Lets see if an opportunity brings back the hunger of the rookie Jonas, who was pure hustle and more focused on defense and less focused on bricking jumpers.

Pistons need a tight 9 man rotation right now. The guys who look to be in it right now are Monore, Maxiell, Prince, Singler, and Knight with Bynum, Drummond, Villanueva, and Stuckey off the bench. I think anyone outside of it, IE Maggette, Krastov, Jerebko, Daye, and so on should be immediately made available. I'd love the Pistons to get Calderon. I can't stand watching Knight as our primary PG anymore. Sorry guys.

Best lineup or best starting lineup?

Best lineup, but not necessarily starters. what I'd roll with in the 4th to secure a W would be:
Bynum
Knight
Prince
Monroe
Drummond

I'd keep the same starting lineup for now. Continuing to increase Drummond's minutes, until he is eventually playing starters minutes off the bench. I like the chemistry the bench has and I'm ok with the veterans in the starting lineup, I like Tay's consistency and Max is serviceable most nights, although I'd want Andre to get more minutes than him. I'd also give English and JJ a chance if the guys in front of them aren't getting it done

Piston Prince wrote:

DetroitPistons wrote:

Piston Prince wrote:Can someone please explain the benefit of getting our doors blown off by Miami and giving away our draft pick?

We will beat Miami with our size. We can also give our pick to the Lolcats in a weak draft and then we will have the flexibility to trade it or use it if we have some kind of setback next season. It sucks not having the pick as a trade asset.

I really think Miami is saying "oh lord, please don't make us face Detroit, we have no answer for the 20 minutes per game we'll see from Andre Drummond".

Miami would beat us 4-0. We have NO answer for Lebron and their floor spacing game.

I was joking with that comment but I'm not joking when I say Miami will not win it all this year. Their small ball, fast break garbage will fail in the playoffs. I think the pacers will beat them and the bulls too if they get Rose back. Last I heard Miami was last in the league in rebounding. You don't win if you can't protect the paint and rebound.