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What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:36 pm
by PetroNet
What would it take for you guys to swap magette for humphries? would something like this work:
detroit in:
Kris humphries(owed 12M next year)
2015 first round pick
2017 first round pick
Right to our euro-stash ilan karaman
nets in:
Corey magette
would that work? would the pistons need substantially more? is there bad 4M dollar per year contract we could eat for you as well?
Also, did ben gordon burn his bridges with you guys? if not, you could have gordon instead of humphries in a 3 team trade where the bobcats get hump in additon to the picks/euro from the nets
getting a third team to give us an expiring for hump seems like our only chance to get josh smith. and it looks like magette is one of few that might be attainable
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:02 pm
by Han Solo
Dumars said he won't take back any contracts that affect his flexibility this upcoming offseason.
I doubt he would even listen to trade offers if Kris Kardashian's name was mentioned.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:04 pm
by ARoS
No chance in hell Dumars ever employs Ben Gordon again.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:07 pm
by DetroitDon15
PetroNet wrote:What would it take for you guys to swap magette for humphries? would something like this work:
detroit in:
Kris humphries(owed 12M next year)
2015 first round pick
2017 first round pick
Right to our euro-stash ilan karaman
nets in:
Corey magette
would that work? would the pistons need substantially more? is there bad 4M dollar per year contract we could eat for you as well?
Also, did ben gordon burn his bridges with you guys? if not, you could have gordon instead of humphries in a 3 team trade where the bobcats get hump in additon to the picks/euro from the nets
getting a third team to give us an expiring for hump seems like our only chance to get josh smith. and it looks like magette is one of few that might be attainable
I think the Pistons would want Marshon Brooks in the deal with a pick at minimum. I could see Detroit being a third team in a Josh Smith to New Jersey deal. I don't think offering picks that far down the road interests Detroit. Another key factor is that Detroit by dowing said deal goes over the luxuary which is another no go. If Detroit did something like this:
Detroit Gets:
F Kris Humpries (DNP CV can be amnesitied to make it work at seasons end)
G MarShon Brooks
2013 First Round Pick
Rights to ilan karaman
Brooklyn Gets:
F Corey Maggette
G Wil Bynum
you'd have a deal or Detroit can send the two to Atlanta in a three team.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:12 pm
by Jodi
Hump gets paid too much bro!..I don't think Dumars would be interested...
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:23 pm
by ComboGuardCity
Humphries is a bad contract that isn't a particularly a good player. I don't think he's someone JoeD is looking at.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:35 pm
by PetroNet
DetroitDon15 wrote:PetroNet wrote:What would it take for you guys to swap magette for humphries? would something like this work:
detroit in:
Kris humphries(owed 12M next year)
2015 first round pick
2017 first round pick
Right to our euro-stash ilan karaman
nets in:
Corey magette
would that work? would the pistons need substantially more? is there bad 4M dollar per year contract we could eat for you as well?
Also, did ben gordon burn his bridges with you guys? if not, you could have gordon instead of humphries in a 3 team trade where the bobcats get hump in additon to the picks/euro from the nets
getting a third team to give us an expiring for hump seems like our only chance to get josh smith. and it looks like magette is one of few that might be attainable
I think the Pistons would want Marshon Brooks in the deal with a pick at minimum. I could see Detroit being a third team in a Josh Smith to New Jersey deal. I don't think offering picks that far down the road interests Detroit. Another key factor is that Detroit by dowing said deal goes over the luxuary which is another no go. If Detroit did something like this:
Detroit Gets:
F Kris Humpries (DNP CV can be amnesitied to make it work at seasons end)
G MarShon Brooks
2013 First Round Pick
Rights to ilan karaman
Brooklyn Gets:
F Corey Maggette
G Wil Bynum
you'd have a deal or Detroit can send the two to Atlanta in a three team.
the problem with this deal is it doesnt leave the nets with anything to give to atlanta.
i dont think the hawks take magette, 2015/2017 firsts and bogdanovic for smtih
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:37 pm
by PetroNet
ComboGuardCity wrote:Humphries is a bad contract that isn't a particularly a good player. I don't think he's someone JoeD is looking at.
well yes, that kind of the point... hense the question, what would you need to get in order to take that contract of our hands?
also, its not like its a 2 or 3 year deal. its 1 year at 12M.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:39 pm
by Kilo
Detroit wouldn't be interested in picks 3-5 drafts away. Dumars and Frank are heading into the last year of their deals next year and need to show something now.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:04 pm
by DetroitDon15
PetroNet wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:Humphries is a bad contract that isn't a particularly a good player. I don't think he's someone JoeD is looking at.
well yes, that kind of the point... hense the question, what would you need to get in order to take that contract of our hands?
also, its not like its a 2 or 3 year deal. its 1 year at 12M.
Well it cost a lotto protected first to unload Ben Gordon. If they offereed Detroit Brooks, Humpries, Reggie Evans, Shenglia 3 mill cash, and multiple second rounders for Maggette, Middleton, and took DNP-CV's deal back. I think it might help Detroit out some.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:42 pm
by Uncle Mxy
We'd need an expiring player who's out for the season and a 2nd round pick.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:05 pm
by vege
Detroit is not taking on Humphries contract, forget that idea it's bad and has no legs.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:30 pm
by theBigLip
Maggette's value to Detroit is to be able to be a significant player in free agency this summer. That means being able to make huge offers to OJ Mayo and/or Iggy. So why would Detroit rather have a player who wouldn't even start take away all the cap space? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
The only player on the Nets roster that might be useful would be Brooks, but there is no way to bridge the salary gap. This is DOA.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:46 pm
by ChipButty
I'm open to the idea of getting Brooks or future picks.
Instead of Magette, how about Max (expiring) and Stuckey (partial guarenteed) for Humphries + Brooks (or picks).
I doubt we will pay Stuckey 4M to clear space, so this wouldn't drastically change our ability to pursue free agents. Humphries contract looks bad know but we are going to need a big and it could be valuable next year, especially if he steps his game up.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:53 pm
by Goldtop
I can't believe you guys are feeding this troll lol.
Do you realize he is saying he would give up Humphries, a solid big man, plus TWO first round picks for the corpse of Maggette?
Then pretends like that wouldn't be enough, and asks would he need to add substantially more to equal Maggettes value, lol. And on top of that asks if he can take some of our bad contracts from us too, just to be nice.
He's obviously trolling.
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:03 pm
by theBigLip
Goldtop wrote:I can't believe you guys are feeding this troll lol.
Do you realize he is saying he would give up Humphries, a solid big man, plus TWO first round picks for the corpse of Maggette?
Then pretends like that wouldn't be enough, and asks would he need to add substantially more to equal Maggettes value, lol. And on top of that asks if he can take some of our bad contracts from us too, just to be nice.
He's obviously trolling.
I don't think he's trolling as much as thinking about how his team can get Smith, and they need an expiring like Maggette to make that happen. He also posted this in the GB, but I think he wanted to see how realistic it would be by getting our opinion. I think he got it
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:46 pm
by Piston Pete
Does NJ even have 1st rounders to offer??
Aren't they 1st rounder-ed out after dealing for Deron and JJ?
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:07 am
by Blkbrd671
PetroNet wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:Humphries is a bad contract that isn't a particularly a good player. I don't think he's someone JoeD is looking at.
well yes, that kind of the point... hense the question, what would you need to get in order to take that contract of our hands?
also, its not like its a 2 or 3 year deal. its 1 year at 12M.
did not realize this. i'd do this trade, but take one of 1st rounders out and add Marswag
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:16 am
by Kilo
How about a 30 minute lap dance from Beyonce?
(I settle for a lapper, because Beyonce is a married woman and mother and I respect that)
Re: What wiould you guys need for Magette?
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:29 am
by ComboGuardCity
Kilo wrote:How about a 30 minute lap dance from Beyonce?
(I settle for a lapper, because Beyonce is a married woman and mother and I respect that)