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Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#1 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:50 am

Watching this game depress me so here it is.

We amnesty CV, obviously.

We draft whoever Indiana want with our lotto pick.

We trade Rodney Stuckey, Brandon Knight and our early 2nd round pick for Eric Gordon.

We trade our pick and raw cap space for Danny Granger.

We sign Jose Calderon to a 3 years deal worth 20 million starting at 6.5 million.

We sign Will Bynum to a 3 years deal starting at $2,022,770 with max raises.

We wait for Chicago to amnesty Carlos Boozer and offer the rest of our cap space on him for 2 years, should be 8 million so 16 million/2 years.

Jonas Jerebko $ 4,500,000
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400
Slava Kravtsov $ 1,500,000
Kyle Singler $ 1,045,000
Khris Middleton $ 788,872
Kim English $ 788,872

Eric Gordon $14,283,844
Danny Granger $14,021,788
Carlos Boozer $ 8,000,000
Jose Calderon $ 6,500,000
Will Bynum $ 2,022,770

$60,000,000

Andre Drummond / Slava Kravtsov /
Greg Monroe / Carlos Boozer / Jonas Jerebko
Danny Granger / Kyle Singler / Khris Middleton
Eric Gordon / Kim English /
Jose Calderon / Will Bynum /

We can then wait for the end of free agency and sign 3 min salary vets to fill our roster (hopefully a backup C and a backup SG).

Our defense would be awful but we would score 150 points a game with that starting line up, considering how bad and boring we currently are at least we would have some fun.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#2 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:53 am

Sign Calderon for 7mill a year? Gross.

Trade our lotto pick for a Granger rental? Pukeworthy.

Trade Knight for Gordon when we he is the one that should be the one had for cap space? Disgusting.
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Post#3 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:55 am

I want nothing to do with boozer, if we want a rebounding, defensive liability with an ok offensive game then I want Paul Millsap.

Also, Granger is not worth our lottery pick IMO, I'd be down with Gordon
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#4 » by menten » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:56 am

you actually want to resign that scrub calderon after you've seen him play for us the last games?
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Post#5 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:56 am

That too. Calderon has been trash and is not what we need
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Post#6 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:58 am

Instead of going after Granger we go after Iguodala and not give up any assets. 3/45 is too much to turn down at his age.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#7 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:59 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Instead of going after Granger we go after Iguodala and not give up any assets. 3/45 is too much to turn down at his age.


Iggy+Bazz+ what we have= playoff team.

By the way, is it just me or does Bazz look like Timmy Hardaway in that picture?
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#8 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:07 am

Timmaytime wrote:I want nothing to do with boozer, if we want a rebounding, defensive liability with an ok offensive game then I want Paul Millsap.

Also, Granger is not worth our lottery pick IMO, I'd be down with Gordon


Paul Millsap can choose where he play while Boozer can't. Millsap would never come to Detroit, especially to not start. He will go for a better team who will offer similar money and a starting spot.

Boozer would be much better in the pick and roll with Calderon anyways and that would be unstoppable.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#9 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:08 am

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Timmaytime wrote:I want nothing to do with boozer, if we want a rebounding, defensive liability with an ok offensive game then I want Paul Millsap.

Also, Granger is not worth our lottery pick IMO, I'd be down with Gordon


Paul Millsap can choose where he play while Boozer can't. Millsap would never come to Detroit, especially to not start. He will go for a better team who will offer similar money and a starting spot.

Boozer would be much better in the pick and roll with Calderon anyways and that would be unstoppable.


I would rather have neither, I'm just saying I would prefer Millsap if we were to go after one
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Post#10 » by menten » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:09 am

calderon and boozer pick and roll... wow
i think you are trolling at this point, no way you want those guys to actually play for us
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#11 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:12 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Instead of going after Granger we go after Iguodala and not give up any assets. 3/45 is too much to turn down at his age.


If we are living in the dreamland sure. In reality there's not a good chance Iggy opts out since he will make a hell lot of money next season but if he do opt out after a down season, he will very likely go to a much better team (Denver for example) for similar money and a much better chance to compete.

Detroit is not a desirable free agent destination. We couldn't land players when we were winning, we got rejected by the likes of Pietrus and James Jones when we were contending, no one will chose Detroit when we are this bad.

The last Free Agents we signed were Chris Wilcox who costed Arron Afflalo so we could outbid ourselves and overpay for him when nobody else wanted him. Charlie Villanueva who is about to be amnestied and Ben Gordon who was so overpaid that did cost us a very like lotto pick to get rid of. So yeah, dream about sign Iguodala or Millsap in free agency is beautiful, sadly the reality is a little bit more cruel.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#12 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:13 am

Timmaytime wrote:
I would rather have neither, I'm just saying I would prefer Millsap if we were to go after one


It's not who you prefer to go after, it's who you can get, you can't get Millsap that's 100% for sure, you can get Boozer since he doesn't have a say in the matter.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#13 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:17 am

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ComboGuardCity wrote:Instead of going after Granger we go after Iguodala and not give up any assets. 3/45 is too much to turn down at his age.


If we are living in the dreamland sure. In reality there's not a good chance Iggy opts out since he will make a hell lot of money next season but if he do opt out after a down season, he will very likely go to a much better team (Denver for example) for similar money and a much better chance to compete.

Detroit is not a desirable free agent destination. We couldn't land players when we were winning, we got rejected by the likes of Pietrus and James Jones when we were contending, no one will chose Detroit when we are this bad.

The last Free Agents we signed were Chris Wilcox who costed Arron Afflalo so we could outbid ourselves and overpay for him when nobody else wanted him. Charlie Villanueva who is about to be amnestied and Ben Gordon who was so overpaid that did cost us a very like lotto pick to get rid of. So yeah, dream about sign Iguodala or Millsap in free agency is beautiful, sadly the reality is a little bit more cruel.


1st off, there's just as much of a chance of signing Iggy as trading for Granger or Gordon

2nd off, Calderon will not be resigned, he hasn't shown the ability to lead the team

3rd off, I don't want Paul Millsap

4th, Boozer is trash

5th, CV is trash too, but HE WILL NOT BE AMNESTIED

6th we didn't need Afflalo, we had Stuckey, Rip, Chauncey and Tay. He had no signs of any upside at that point.

7th Denver won't resign Iggy

8th get your head out of the gutter
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Post#14 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:23 am

Iguodala would be getting paid 16 mill next year. I'll take a 1mill paycut for two extra years for the big bucks.

He's got 6 choices:
Detroit
Sac/Seattle
New Orleans
Milluwakee - will most likely pursue Josh Smith
Atlanta -
Dallas - they already have Marion and will be looking to resign mayo

Of the remaining 4, Detroit has the best young core and most storied franchise.
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Post#15 » by Timmaytime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:25 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Iguodala would be getting paid 16 mill next year. I'll take a 1mill paycut for two extra years for the big bucks.

He's got 6 choices:
Detroit
Sac/Seattle
New Orleans
Milluwakee - will most likely pursue Josh Smith
Atlanta -
Dallas - they already have Marion and will be looking to resign mayo

Of the remaining 4, Detroit has the best young core and most storied franchise.


NOLA has no cap room, they out.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#16 » by Jodi » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:47 am

Why the hell would you want to re-sign Calderon?? That guy plays zero defense, he sucks, and he's too old to fit in with our team...We could probably get Eric Gordon by absorbing his salary and simply trading our draft pick...
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#17 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Iguodala would be getting paid 16 mill next year. I'll take a 1mill paycut for two extra years for the big bucks.

He's got 6 choices:
Detroit
Sac/Seattle
New Orleans
Milluwakee - will most likely pursue Josh Smith
Atlanta -
Dallas - they already have Marion and will be looking to resign mayo

Of the remaining 4, Detroit has the best young core and most storied franchise.


That list is far from accurate. I can add at least 6 teams with enough cap space to offer Iguodala a max deal to your list.

2 of them are bigger markets than Detroit and 2 of them have a super star to pair up with him :wink: the 5th team is the LoLcats so I understand why you somehow "accidentally" forgot them.

The other team who can offer Iggy the Max is Phoenix and they are desperate enough to add someone that they might be stupid enough to offer Iguodala a big offer.

Go do some research before you post things as if they are facts and edit your post with proper information if you want to have a serious argument.
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#18 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:20 am

The suns have about 13 mill in realistic cap space. The Bobcats? I'm sure that's a realistic destination. The most annoying part of your posts is you decide to mock my research when you've most likely never been to Detroit, let alone America and you claim a guy won't go there to play basketball.

Please post those other 4 teams. I'm itching to hear about them!
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#19 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:46 am

Goran Dragic $7,500,000
Marcin Gortat $7,727,280
Channing Frye $6,400,000 (likely removed duo to hearth condition)
Michael Beasley $6,000,000
Jared Dudley $4,250,000
Luis Scola $4,508,504
Shannon Brown $1,500,000*
Markieff Morris $2,091,840
Kendall Marshall$2,005,560
Marcus Morris $1,987,320

Channing Frye $6,400,000 (likely removed duo to hearth condition)

Shannon Brown $1,500,000*

$37,570,504 + their 2 picks. Plenty of cap space to offer a max contract like I said. Since you don't even want to get the facts straight before start a civilized discussion I'll give them for you.

Cleveland has a crapload of cap space and is starving for a SF. Iggy would fit like a glove there. You ignored them.

Houston has enough cap space to offer a max deal and they have a super star in Harden. Considering how active Morey is he could very well sign Iggy and turn his assets + Parsons into an all star PF or roll with TRob there.

Orlando has enough cap space to sign Iggy considering Al Harrington and Hedo Turkoglu have partially guaranteed deals.

Utah has enough cap space to offer him the max and they need a winger badly.

Portland has enough cap space to sign him but they don't need him, yet they can. Since you posted Dallas should have mentioned them if you really did any sort of research.

So 5 at the top of the 2 I previously posted. Yeah...

I've been to New York, Orlando and Miami a few times, Also have been in Europe (France, Spain and Italy) and South America (Brazil and Argentina) oh I've been to Carib as well to a place called Curacao.

Oh and by America I believe you mean North America right? I'm not a geography teacher but America is a big thing composed by North America, Central America, Carib and South America, called the Americas. But that's all fine.

Any other thing you want to know about my personal life so you can use it trying to diminish my arguments?
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Re: Yet another vege's offseason plan 

Post#20 » by vege » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:57 am

Timmaytime wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:Iguodala would be getting paid 16 mill next year. I'll take a 1mill paycut for two extra years for the big bucks.

He's got 6 choices:
Detroit
Sac/Seattle
New Orleans
Milluwakee - will most likely pursue Josh Smith
Atlanta -
Dallas - they already have Marion and will be looking to resign mayo

Of the remaining 4, Detroit has the best young core and most storied franchise.


NOLA has no cap room, they out.


They have ~20 million in cap space.

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