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Post#1 » by vege » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:52 am

Over the last 7 games he has been receiving consistent minutes, his production is subpar imo tho and I haven't been watching the games but I bet a lot of those minutes are in garbage time.

8.5 PPG 2.1 RPG 0.7 APG

22 mpg

19/49 - 38% FG

8/21 - 38% 3pt FG

14/21 - 66% FT

His 3 point % is good but everything else is meh at best. I hope he improve with the minutes he is getting and become part of our future.
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Post#2 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:58 am

vege wrote:Over the last 7 games he has been receiving consistent minutes, his production is subpar imo tho and I haven't been watching the games but I bet a lot of those minutes are in garbage time.

8.5 PPG 2.1 RPG 0.7 APG

22 mpg

19/49 - 38% FG

8/21 - 38% 3pt FG

14/21 - 66% FT

His 3 point % is good but everything else is meh at best. I hope he improve with the minutes he is getting and become part of our future.



if you did you'd have different opinion
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Post#3 » by ducler » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:04 pm

He deserves to take the place of Knight in the starting lineup during BK's injury
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Post#4 » by Piston Pete » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:05 pm

I like Middleton.

He seems to have a hard time hitting shots while on the move. I think that's part of his game....are they not falling because he's not yet in 100% game shape from sitting on the bench all year? Possibly...

But when he's able to spot/square up, he's been pretty accurate.

And he's smooth, and he's shown to be a good passer who makes the right pass at the right time.

Backup SG/SF long-term who might be able to get spot starts if needed.
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Post#5 » by DetroitPistons » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:16 pm

Middleton has looked great for a guy that has just recently been thrust into the rotation after being the very last guy to get a shot to play. His game is built for the NBA and he is looking more and more comfortable with each game. His defense has actually been really decent too. He will at least be a rotation player in the league and I hope he is in our future plans. After Knight, Monroe, and Drummond I think he has the most potential and I am excited to see how he progresses. Lets not forget that he was a lottery pick before his knee injury.
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Post#6 » by princeofpalace » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:41 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Middleton has looked great for a guy that has just recently been thrust into the rotation after being the very last guy to get a shot to play. His game is built for the NBA and he is looking more and more comfortable with each game. His defense has actually been really decent too. He will at least be a rotation player in the league and I hope he is in our future plans. After Knight, Monroe, and Drummond I think he has the most potential and I am excited to see how he progresses. Lets not forget that he was a lottery pick before his knee injury.


No. He wasn't. There were a number of factors that lead to KM's poor junior season including rushing back from knee injury + our coach both being terrible & suffering from parkinsons. But KM was never in the discussion as a top 14 pick, he never had that type of talent. He was a possible first rounder if he came out after his sophomore year but Id have been shocked if he went in the lottery.

And, in the 4 games this month: KM has been putting up 9 points/2 boards on 45%FG and 40% from deep in 20 minutes. I think with more consistent PT, KM can become a better rotation player. I will be very happy if he ever becomes a good 7/8th man
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Post#7 » by Goldtop » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:56 pm

Don't look at the last 7, look at the last 3 games. It took him 4 games to get going, but now that he has he's been consistently efficient the last 3, avg about 12 ppg on 50% FG in 20 mpg. Can't ask for more out of a backup F. If he can keep up that level of production/efficiency, he should be a good rotation piece to keep. You can never have enough shooters off the bench - especially cheap shooters who also play some D and have a high IQ.

I know its only 3 games, but he's got the type of game that makes you believe he can play this way every game, and should even get better as he's only 21.

So, if there's oly room for 1 young backup SF, I'd consider trading Singler and just going with Middleton. To me Singler is what he is, and isn't going to get a lot better. He's 25 already and I really don't see why we can't get the same production out of Middleton. Plus Singler I think has some trade value, so I'd look into what his value is at this point.

I liked Singler at first, but he's just not proving as consistent a shooter as I would like, plus he makes a lot of plays that make you go huh? And with not much room for improvement, I really don't know if we NEED him longterm, esp if Middleton could provide the same for less, and has room to get better.
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Post#8 » by DetroitPistons » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:11 pm

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DetroitPistons wrote:Middleton has looked great for a guy that has just recently been thrust into the rotation after being the very last guy to get a shot to play. His game is built for the NBA and he is looking more and more comfortable with each game. His defense has actually been really decent too. He will at least be a rotation player in the league and I hope he is in our future plans. After Knight, Monroe, and Drummond I think he has the most potential and I am excited to see how he progresses. Lets not forget that he was a lottery pick before his knee injury.


No. He wasn't. There were a number of factors that lead to KM's poor junior season including rushing back from knee injury + our coach both being terrible & suffering from parkinsons. But KM was never in the discussion as a top 14 pick, he never had that type of talent. He was a possible first rounder if he came out after his sophomore year but Id have been shocked if he went in the lottery.

And, in the 4 games this month: KM has been putting up 9 points/2 boards on 45%FG and 40% from deep in 20 minutes. I think with more consistent PT, KM can become a better rotation player. I will be very happy if he ever becomes a good 7/8th man


Well you may not agree but I remember seeing him in the late lottery for some mock drafts before his Jr year. Here is draft.net saying he was a possible lottery pick before the injury.

http://nbadraft.net/players/khris-middleton they mention it in the "overall" section.
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Post#9 » by DetroitDon15 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:49 pm

I don't get it. I thought Middleton shoulda been in the D-League getting serious minutes like Lamb did for OKC. Having him as the team's designated "Darko" wouldn't help the guy at all. This is the one thing that drives me mad with Joe D. He doesn't stop and think enough. Middleton doesn't look ready yet. I blame Frank some but mostly JD. English and Middleton shoulda been in the D-League till now.
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Post#10 » by Brapman » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:03 pm

Goldtop wrote:Don't look at the last 7, look at the last 3 games. It took him 4 games to get going, but now that he has he's been consistently efficient the last 3, avg about 12 ppg on 50% FG in 20 mpg. Can't ask for more out of a backup F. If he can keep up that level of production/efficiency, he should be a good rotation piece to keep. You can never have enough shooters off the bench - especially cheap shooters who also play some D and have a high IQ.

I know its only 3 games, but he's got the type of game that makes you believe he can play this way every game, and should even get better as he's only 21.

So, if there's oly room for 1 young backup SF, I'd consider trading Singler and just going with Middleton. To me Singler is what he is, and isn't going to get a lot better. He's 25 already and I really don't see why we can't get the same production out of Middleton. Plus Singler I think has some trade value, so I'd look into what his value is at this point.

I liked Singler at first, but he's just not proving as consistent a shooter as I would like, plus he makes a lot of plays that make you go huh? And with not much room for improvement, I really don't know if we NEED him longterm, esp if Middleton could provide the same for less, and has room to get better.


Singler is playing a ton of minutes in his rookie season. More likely than not, his shooting efficiency will improve as his career progresses. David Thorpe rates his shot as potentially being one of the very best in the NBA, as he has perfect form. Middleton looks like a very good player to me. I'm honestly not sure which of these two I like better. I honestly wouldn't hate going into next season with them as our starting and backup SF's.

I wonder whether Middleton can handle SG. And I suppose we still have to consider Kim English in the mix, but honestly, I like Middleton better - so is Middleton can handle SG, I'd get him minutes there. English seems more like a 7-9 bench player in a team's rotation - a guy who hustles a lot, plays hard and honest defense but who isn't athletic enough to be an impact player, and a great 3 pt shooter. Actually, that's not a bad description for a rotation player off the bench, but I do like Middleton more.

It's very tricky trying to predict who will be rotation players and who will be included in trade packages next season. With all our cap space, and these nice moveable assets, the Pistons could get some seasoned pros to upgrade our team. But I'd be very cautious moving Singler or Middleton. These guys could turn out to be very good.
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Post#11 » by Jodi » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:43 pm

@Barpman: You're losing credibility with all that Singler non-sense...Dang man, do you even watch Piston games??? Singler sucks!..

I would defiantly start Middleton over Singler...We gotta get the bums out of the starting line-up...
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Post#12 » by Piston Pete » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:15 pm

DetroitDon15 wrote:I don't get it. I thought Middleton shoulda been in the D-League getting serious minutes like Lamb did for OKC. Having him as the team's designated "Darko" wouldn't help the guy at all. This is the one thing that drives me mad with Joe D. He doesn't stop and think enough. Middleton doesn't look ready yet. I blame Frank some but mostly JD. English and Middleton shoulda been in the D-League till now.


I would agree. Should be sending kids that aren't going to play to Fort Wayne. If we want them to watch all our games, send them game tapes (and note, perhaps) to watch while playing 30+ minutes per with the Mad Ants. But Dumars has NEVER been good about this. We've always been contant to let kids sit and watch.
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Post#13 » by dVs33 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:35 pm

Jodi wrote:@Barpman: You're losing credibility with all that Singler non-sense...Dang man, do you even watch Piston games??? Singler sucks!..

I would defiantly start Middleton over Singler...We gotta get the bums out of the starting line-up...


Jodi your hatred for singler is baseless and irritating. He has proved throughout the season that he is a hardworking, high IQ player. Whether or not he is a long term starter, right now he's the best option.

I've read in your previous posts that he doesn't look like a bad boy or something along those lines, so i hope the hate isn't based on race.
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Post#14 » by Jodi » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:16 pm

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Jodi wrote:@Barpman: You're losing credibility with all that Singler non-sense...Dang man, do you even watch Piston games??? Singler sucks!..

I would defiantly start Middleton over Singler...We gotta get the bums out of the starting line-up...

Jodi your hatred for singler is baseless and irritating. He has proved throughout the season that he is a hardworking, high IQ player. Whether or not he is a long term starter, right now he's the best option.

I've read in your previous posts that he doesn't look like a bad boy or something along those lines, so i hope the hate isn't based on race.

Based on race??? Come on dVs that's plain ignorant and ridiculous on your part...If you read my previous post you would also see that I'm a fan or Jerebko and Slava...I'm from Houston and I'm a big time fan of Parsons...Please don't include race into this...I know talent, and Singler has no talent(especially on defensive end)...The only thing Singler proved this season is that our opponents love taking turns abusing him...If he wasn't starting I would probably have a different prospective of him...
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Post#15 » by dVs33 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:58 pm

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Jodi wrote:@Barpman: You're losing credibility with all that Singler non-sense...Dang man, do you even watch Piston games??? Singler sucks!..

I would defiantly start Middleton over Singler...We gotta get the bums out of the starting line-up...

Jodi your hatred for singler is baseless and irritating. He has proved throughout the season that he is a hardworking, high IQ player. Whether or not he is a long term starter, right now he's the best option.

I've read in your previous posts that he doesn't look like a bad boy or something along those lines, so i hope the hate isn't based on race.

Based on race??? Come on dVs that's plain ignorant and ridiculous on your part...If you read my previous post you would also see that I'm a fan or Jerebko and Slava...I'm from Houston and I'm a big time fan of Parsons...Please don't include race into this...I know talent, and Singler has no talent(especially on defensive end)...The only thing Singler proved this season is that our opponents love taking turns abusing him...If he wasn't starting I would probably have a different prospective of him...


i was hoping it wasn't based on race, because i don't understand the hate.
How can you say he's got no talent?? He's no star by any means, but he's been pretty solid this season and i think most on this board will agree that he's a productive player. The way you talk about him you make it seem like he doesn't any deserve minutes let alone a rotation spot.
He's been much better than most our team.
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Post#16 » by Jodi » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:11 am

dVs33 wrote:i was hoping it wasn't based on race, because i don't understand the hate.
How can you say he's got no talent?? He's no star by any means, but he's been pretty solid this season and i think most on this board will agree that he's a productive player. The way you talk about him you make it seem like he doesn't any deserve minutes let alone a rotation spot.
He's been much better than most our team.

I like Singler as our role player off the bench, I don't hate the guy...Now lets move on bro...
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Post#17 » by Redeemed » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:20 am

ducler wrote:He deserves to take the place of Knight in the starting lineup during BK's injury


I would love to see Middleton start or at least get somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 minutes a game.
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Post#18 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:31 am

Redeemed wrote:
ducler wrote:He deserves to take the place of Knight in the starting lineup during BK's injury


I would love to see Middleton start or at least get somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 minutes a game.



honestly if poop can get minutes, and CV can get minutes, really no reason why Middleton shouldn't be gettin minutes
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Post#19 » by Redeemed » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:04 pm

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Redeemed wrote:
ducler wrote:He deserves to take the place of Knight in the starting lineup during BK's injury


I would love to see Middleton start or at least get somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 minutes a game.



honestly if poop can get minutes, and CV can get minutes, really no reason why Middleton shouldn't be gettin minutes


Who is poop?
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Post#20 » by need4detroit » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:04 pm

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