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At the draft day we trade

Rodney Stuckey + Slava Kravtsov + #5 pick for Rajon Rondo.

Detroit buy a pick in the 20's for 3 million and trade Kyle Singler + the pick + the #35 future 2nd for a late lotto, mid teen pick. We draft for Indiana.

Once FA is open we trade the pick + Jonas Jerebko + a 9.5 mil TPE for Danny Granger.

We trade Charlie Villanueva + Brandon Knight for Eric Gordon.

At this point this is what we got.

Eric Gordon $14,283,844
Danny Granger $14,021,788
Rajon Rondo $11,954,545
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

$47,597,903

We offer Tyreke Evans a 4 years 38.5 million (it's the max we can offer) - He is capable of start at PG/SG/SF and is an insurance in case any of the 3 goes down.
Try to sign Brandan Wright for 1 million and promise him decent minutes (it's about the same he is making this year, we can't offer more than that. Sadly)

Hire Larry Brown since we need a respectable head coach to fill the bench with minimum salary veterans. Considering we have 5 borderline all stars at the 5 starter positions and an excellence 6th man, this should be doable.

Offer Billups and Sheed a chance to retire in Detroit fighting for a championship and playing for Larry Brown.
Offer Grant Hill a chance to retire where he started and working with a good medical staff while contending.
Offer Kenyon Martin a chance to retire in Detroit, where he should.
Offer Stackhouse a chance to retire where he had his best years.
Offer Greg Oden a chance to play for a good franchise and a contender with a good medical staff and enough veterans to keep him in line.

Eric Gordon $14,283,844 $14,898,938 $15,514,031
Danny Granger $14,021,788
Rajon Rondo $11,954,545 $12,909,091
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454 $ 5,479,934
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400 $ 2,568,360 $ 3,272,091 $ 4,267,426
Khris Middleton $ 788,872 $ 915,243 $ 1,181,348

$47,597,903

Tyreke Evans $ 9,400,000 $ 9,776,000 $10,152,000 $10,528,000
Brandan Wright $ 1,000,000 $ 1,040,000 $ 1,080,000

Greg Oden $ 884,293 $ 915,243 $ 980,431
Chauncey Billups $ 884,293
Grant Hill $ 884,293
Jerry Stackhouse $ 884,293
Rasheed Wallace $ 884,293
Kenyon Martin $ 884,293

$63,303,661

Andre Drummond (32)/ Rasheed Wallace ( 8)/ Greg Oden
Greg Monroe (32)/ Brandan Wright (20) / Kenyon Martin (4)
Danny Granger (32)/ Grant Hill (6) / Khris Middleton
Eric Gordon (32)/ Tyreke Evans (32) / Jerry Stackhouse
Rajon Rondo (32)/ Chauncey Billups (10)/

Finally offer Kander a big raise because he will work overtime.

No trading Knight!..Evans wouldn't want to come here to play 6th man...He could start for a number of teams to show case his skills...I'll pass on Danny Granger, I would rather draft Muhammad as our 3 going forward...

That's a pipedream, man. Would be fan to watch though.

MrBigShot wrote:That's a pipedream, man. Would be fan to watch though.

The value is fair and so is the fit in all 3 trades for the other teams tho but yeah it's a pipedream.

Boston laughs at that offer. This draft literally makes me want to vomit it so weak. That trade is lopsided.

I don't understand the Indiana trade. How do you buy a pick? I'm just confused as to what were throwing in and what we get in return.

Grant Hill retires at the end the season.

Rasheed is done.

Chauncey would be nice as a mentor to Knight. I'm not ready to give up on him in his second season. I also don't like the idea of getting Gordon.

I do like Evans. Would rather overpay him then Mayo or someone else.

Granger is done, going on 30 and knees are shot.

Boston isn't taking garbage for Rondo.

Brandon Wright will get much more then 4 million for 3 years.

I wouldn't mind getting rid of Knight for a real 2, but Gordon makes too much money and is too fragile.

Singler/Jerebko, well I'm not sure we would get too much for those guys.

Best strategy for offseason, draft BPA and go from there, fill in holes with free agents.

Lol larry brown.

you though calderon would make this team better. and now that you've realized he's a scrub you want the next empty stat ball hog PG in rondo on this team lol

when will you guys realize that balldominant, high volume assist PGs dont make teams better and actually **** up the whole ball movement and offense?

also, are you trying to build an All-Glassbones-Team or something? this starting five would literally start 5 games together in a season

menten wrote:you though calderon would make this team better. and now that you've realized he's a scrub you want the next empty stat ball hog PG in rondo on this team lol

when will you guys realize that balldominant, high volume assist PGs dont make teams better and actually **** up the whole ball movement and offense?

also, are you trying to build an All-Glassbones-Team or something? this starting five would literally start 5 games together in a season

Yeah, I'm not a fan of guards that can't shoot...including Rondo.

Nab Gordon, Chandler, Bazz and call it a day.

I executed the idea poorly. It can be done a lot better. Let me redo it

At the draft day we trade

Rodney Stuckey + Slava Kravtsov + #5 pick for Rajon Rondo.

Detroit buy a pick in the 20's for 3 million and trade Kyle Singler + the pick + the #35 future 2nd for a late lotto, mid teen pick. We draft for Indiana.

Once FA is open we trade the pick + Jonas Jerebko + a 9.5 mil TPE for Danny Granger.

We waive English.

At this point this is what we got.

Danny Granger $14,021,788
Rajon Rondo $11,954,545
Charlie Villanueva $ 8,580,000
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Brandon Knight $ 2,793,960
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

$44,688,019 + $2,500,000 in 5 cap holds

We offer Evans a 4 years contract starting at $10,000,000 with max raises. Total would be $42,400,000.

We offer Andrey Blatche a 4 years contract starting at $ 3,811,981 with max raises (this should be more than what Brooklyn can offer) total would be $16,162,798

Than since we are done using our cap space, we trade Charlie Villanueva and Brandon Knight for Eric Gordon.

Hire Larry Brown since we need a respectable head coach to fill the bench with minimum salary veterans. Considering we have 5 borderline all stars at the 5 starter positions and 2 excellent 6th and 7th man, this should be doable.

Offer Billups and Sheed a chance to retire in Detroit fighting for a championship and playing for Larry Brown.

Offer Grant Hill a chance to retire where he started and working with a good medical staff while contending.

Offer Kenyon Martin a chance to retire in Detroit, where he should.

Offer Stackhouse a chance to retire where he had his best years.

Offer Greg Oden a chance to play for a good franchise and a contender with a good medical staff and enough veterans to keep him in line.

Eric Gordon $14,283,844 $14,898,938 $15,514,031
Danny Granger $14,021,788
Rajon Rondo $11,954,545 $12,909,091
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454 $ 5,479,934
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400 $ 2,568,360 $ 3,272,091 $ 4,267,426
Khris Middleton $ 788,872 $ 915,243 $ 1,181,348

$47,597,903

Tyreke Evans $10,000,000 $10,400,000 $10,800,000 $11,200,000
Andray Blatche $ 3,811,981 $ 3,964,460 $ 4,116,939 $ 4,269,418

Greg Oden $ 884,293 $ 915,243 $ 980,431
Chauncey Billups $ 884,293
Grant Hill $ 884,293
Jerry Stackhouse $ 884,293
Rasheed Wallace $ 884,293
Kenyon Martin $ 884,293

$66,715,642

Andre Drummond (32)/ Rasheed Wallace / Greg Oden
Greg Monroe (32)/ Andray Blatche (32) / Kenyon Martin
Danny Granger (32)/ Grant Hill (6) / Khris Middleton
Eric Gordon (32)/ Tyreke Evans (32) / Jerry Stackhouse
Rajon Rondo (32)/ Chauncey Billups (10)/

Finally offer Kander a big raise because he will work overtime.

Much better now.

hoopaddict08 wrote:This draft literally makes me want to vomit it so weak.

People say that every single year. Last year was the weakest draft since 2000 and yet we drafted Andre Drummond at #9

hoopaddict08 wrote:I don't understand the Indiana trade.

The trade is well explained, shouldn't be that difficult to understand.

We trade Jonas Jerebko, Kyle Singler, 3 million cash, #35, future 2nd, 9,5 million in raw cap space.
We receive Danny Granger.

Indiana trades Danny Granger.
Indiana receives a 9.5 million TPE, Jonas Jerebko and the player drafted somewhere ~13-15.

vege wrote:

hoopaddict08 wrote:This draft literally makes me want to vomit it so weak.

People say that every single year. Last year was the weakest draft since 2000 and yet we drafted Andre Drummond at #9

Last year was probably the best draft since 2003... Are you being serious when you say the weakest since 2000?

Drummond, Davis, Beal, Lillard, Waiters, Barnes, Harkless, all are studs already.

Jenkins, Fournier, Leonard, Robinson, all have potential to be very good role players.

You can't tell me that was a weak draft, bro. You're just lying to yourself if you actually believe that.

Umbra wrote:

vege wrote:

hoopaddict08 wrote:This draft literally makes me want to vomit it so weak.

People say that every single year. Last year was the weakest draft since 2000 and yet we drafted Andre Drummond at #9

Last year was probably the best draft since 2003... Are you being serious when you say the weakest since 2000?

Drummond, Davis, Beal, Lillard, Waiters, Barnes, Harkless, all are studs already.

Jenkins, Fournier, Leonard, Robinson, all have potential to be very good role players.

You can't tell me that was a weak draft, bro. You're just lying to yourself if you actually believe that.

He doesn't. He's saying that it had the reputation as "the weakest draft since 2000", and that seemingly ever year has that reputation.

I think he's being serious when he states "people say that every year." He's referencing how people said that a lot about last season's draft.

Stuckey or CV plus English for Chandler/Fournier would be AWESOME for us. Denver gets a ton of cap relief and we upgrade our wing talent.

Piston Pete wrote:Stuckey or CV plus English for Chandler/Fournier would be AWESOME for us. Denver gets a ton of cap relief and we upgrade our wing talent.

name 1 reason why the nuggets would even consider this trade
you cant just trade 2 scrubs for 2 good players, it just doesnt work like that

menten wrote:

Piston Pete wrote:Stuckey or CV plus English for Chandler/Fournier would be AWESOME for us. Denver gets a ton of cap relief and we upgrade our wing talent.

name 1 reason why the nuggets would even consider this trade
you cant just trade 2 scrubs for 2 good players, it just doesnt work like that

Re-read my post -- I did.

Vege —

You're not alone in your feelings, as many on these boards have posted similar things many times, so I don't mean to single you out here. But you've also provided the most recent example, and you've taken it to a level I've honestly never seen before, so I'm responding as such —

Please, for the love of god, once and for freakin' all ... GET OVER THE "LET'S GO TO WORK" ERA.

It was almost a decade ago. Billups will never come to a lottery team to be a backup when he can compete for championships in L.A. Ben Wallace has been retired for a full year. And worst of all, Larry Brown LEFT OUR FRANCHISE 'CUZ HE WANTED TO COACH A CRAPPY TEAM IN NEW YORK. Would you have wanted to bring back the core of the Bad Boys as bench players in 1997? Trading Tay finally separated us from the last link to that era; it's time to move forward, NOT back, around Dre, Moose, Knight, our pick this year, etc.

(And I'm sorry, I know I'm in a bad mood thanks to the Wolverines losing, but suggesting we bring back Brown really galls me. The guy is a Hall of Famer, but he's also a hired gun who has shown zero loyalty throughout his career. I agree with you about hiring a "respectable coach," but there are WAY better options than Brown, who by the way, bombed out in NY and CHA after ditching us. Not to mention, after the way he left in '05, I suspect Dumars will sooner castrate himself than rehire Larry Brown.)

DocRI wrote:GET OVER THE "LET'S GO TO WORK" ERA.

It had nothing to do with the "go to work era". The fact is, if you get 4 highly paid players in Rondo/Gordon/Granger and Evans, you have absolutely no money back for a bench/insurance veterans.

I'm using those players roots/past to justify bringing them back to Detroit for the minimum over big market teams like NYK or LAL/LAC, because only them would make that choice, I would love to have Jason Kidd as a backup PG, he is not coming to Detroit unless we grossly overpay for him and even if we do he probably wouldn't come.

As for Larry Brown, yeah he won a championship and he left. Whatever.

If you want a nice guy, bring Frank back or something . There would be other options for head coach tho, Jerry Sloan would be my 2nd option.

This is how I feel everytime I read a Vege Offseason Plan: