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The 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons backcourt:

Burke/Stuckey
Knight/Stuckey

Thoughts?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1601 ... t-day-need

The Detroit Pistons have a potentially elite frontcourt tandem with Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond. They also have two quality off guards in Brandon Knight and Rodney Stuckey.

As nice as it would be to land a small forward, this is a point guard-heavy league—Detroit needs their franchise lead.

It just so happens that in-state product Trey Burke is available for the Pistons in this scenario. Burke can step in as a dynamic playmaker from day one, capitalizing on the team's interior presence and kicking it out to Knight along the perimeter.

Mateen Cleeves 2.0

Warspite wrote:Mateen Cleeves 2.0

Wholeheartedly agree. Even if he does become serviceable that back court is too small.

id rather have Kabongo.

I like Burke but with Stuckey and Knight and then the possibility to sign Jack or Jose, there's no need for him. I would consider him if we get the 9th pick or below and I would probably take him over Oladipo though.

I prefer to draft one of Shabazz/Porter/Oladipo and let BK play PG.

ComboGuardCity wrote:

Warspite wrote:Mateen Cleeves 2.0

Wholeheartedly agree. Even if he does become serviceable that back court is too small.

This is getting ridiculous. Mateen Cleaves was a decent college player who regressed after his 2nd year, and continued to do so at the NBA level. Burke has only gotten better as a leader, scorer, playmaker and shooter. He has literally improved in just about every statistical category.

Anyway, Burke will not fit with Knight/Stuck. I don't see Stuckey here as anything other than a 6th man, and Knight is a below average 2 guard who doesn't have the size or strength to guard the position most nights. A trade would need to be lined up if we decided to go with Burke.

ducler wrote:I prefer to draft one of Shabazz/Porter/Oladipo and let WB play PG.

FIXED!!! (can't help myself)

ducler wrote:I prefer to draft one of Shabazz/Porter/Oladipo and let BK play PG.

Or McLemore if we get lucky.

ducler wrote:I prefer to draft one of McLemore/Smart/Shabazz and let BK play PG or combo guard.

Fixed again...

srt4b wrote:The 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons backcourt:
Burke/Stuckey
Knight/Stuckey

I apologize in advance for the following really wussy, wishy-washy reply.

I think our pick this year needs to be a combination of BPA and need, with a slight leaning towards BPA. In other words, we take the best 1, 2 or 3 on the board. Small sample size or not, I've seen nothing from the Dre/Moose combo to make me think they're not our front court going forward. I've also seen enough from Knight to feel that he should be a part of our plans, but I've also seen seen enough from him to feel that he shouldn't preclude us from taking the best player on the board. So if we rank Burke as the best talent available (better than Shabazz, Oladipo, etc.) take him. This team isn't so far along to draft purely for need; the only spots I feel are set in stone are Dre and Moose at the 4 and 5.

Like I said, seriously wishy-washy. But there's definitely an interesting cluster of guys between McLemore, Smart, Porter, Oladipo, Shabazz, and Burke who could all conceivably fit well on our team, so it's all about how our brain trust ranks them.

Warspite wrote:Mateen Cleeves 2.0

lol.. Burke can score from everywhere.

Han Solo wrote:

Warspite wrote:Mateen Cleeves 2.0

lol.. Burke can score from everywhere.

So can all the guys he's guarding, Han.

I think Burke will be an all-star caliber NBA PG. My opinion and yours carries no more weight than mine.

Han Solo wrote:I think Burke will be an all-star caliber NBA PG. My opinion and yours carries no more weight than mine.

LOL... that's a good line.

I just can't get past the idea that he'll never be able to guard anyone. However, I do see the possibility that he'll thrive offensively in the pro game. NBA BB is much less physical on a play by play basis than college BB. Burke won't have to fight through guys riding him, handchecking him, etc... and his ability to change speeds and keep the ball on a string will make him extremely dangerous.

But, the superior athletes in the NBA will bother him a lot, and there won't be a PG in the league he can guard. Burke in the lineup means that we're condeming our team to have to react to opposing PG's penetrating at will into the lane. I do not see how a team can win a championship with a guy like that.

Brapman wrote:

Han Solo wrote:

Warspite wrote:Mateen Cleeves 2.0

lol.. Burke can score from everywhere.

So can all the guys he's guarding, Han.

Did ya'll see Burke hitting deep NBA 3's with a hand in his face. Plus, Mateen never took the ball to the rack left and right like that. Burke is definitely legit. Just not sure if he is just a serviceable PG or All-Star caliber. I am leaning All-Star Caliber.

Brapman wrote:

Han Solo wrote:I think Burke will be an all-star caliber NBA PG. My opinion and yours carries no more weight than mine.

But, the superior athletes in the NBA will bother him a lot, and there won't be a PG in the league he can guard. Burke in the lineup means that we're condeming our team to have to react to opposing PG's penetrating at will into the lane. I do not see how a team can win a championship with a guy like that.

Come on now...he has a 6'5 wingspan and he's shown himself to be a good athlete. He isn't Jose Calderon. He should be able to guard most PGs, outside of guys like Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Kyrie, and Tony Parker. To be honest though, nobody can guard those guys one on one. It takes a team effort.

MrBigShot wrote:

Brapman wrote:

Han Solo wrote:I think Burke will be an all-star caliber NBA PG. My opinion and yours carries no more weight than mine.

But, the superior athletes in the NBA will bother him a lot, and there won't be a PG in the league he can guard. Burke in the lineup means that we're condeming our team to have to react to opposing PG's penetrating at will into the lane. I do not see how a team can win a championship with a guy like that.

Come on now...he has a 6'5 wingspan and he's shown himself to be a good athlete. He isn't Jose Calderon. He should be able to guard most PGs, outside of guys like Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Kyrie, and Tony Parker. To be honest though, nobody can guard those guys one on one. It takes a team effort.

I do see the possibilities on offense. But I watched every college PG (with only a couple exceptions) blow by him off the dribble. He's Will Bynum bad on defense. IMO, he doesn't have the athletic ability to be an average, let alone good, defender. If we draft him, I'll hope against hope that I'm wrong. Hell, maybe when he works with Kandor, he can develop agility and speed and technique that he doesn't come into the league with. It's just that -- ready Han? -- I don't have a good feeling about this.

And, if it comes down to this, I hope the Pistons pick MCW instead of Burke.

First, if we pick him on MCW, that means the front office has done its homework on him, and any character, athleticism and drive issues have been resolved favorably. I expect that that would be the case.

Second, picking him is all about upside down the road. We could stay with Stuckey or resign Calderon and develop this kid the right way. We want him blossoming in 3 or 4 seasons, at the same time as Knight, Monroe and especially Drummond are coming into their own as major stars. Then we'd be set up for a long run as a championship contender.

Third, a big PG like him is EXACTLY what we need to have to pair with Knight.