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ppl are talking about tanking like there's a CP3 at the top of the draft that we could get, when there isn't. Meanwhile the real CP3 is at the top of the FA class, we have enough money to give him whatever he wants, and yet no one is talking about him. Enough draft talk. The goldmine of the off-season is in FA and an owner who just said he's ready to spend big. We DO have a chance to get him, imo.

While some think he would never come here, because no big FAs ever do, this is different to me because it sounds like we have an owner willing to offer the max this time.

Is Paul really going to immediately commit longterm to the Cliippers of all franchises, without even exploring all his options first as an UFA - his first chance of his career to choose where he wants to play?

I say no. I think he's going to go through the FA process of at least exploring all his options and getting courted by other teams, wined & dined, etc. And if he does we should be the first team ready and waiting with a max contract offer. Even if we have a slim chance of getting him, we HAVE to at least pursue him the best we can and make him the #1 target. I don't want to see Dumars automatically assume he's not good enough a GM to recruit a superstar, and instead just settle for a bunch of role players without even offering Paul a contract.

To me, worst case scenario is he says no and then we move on to all the tier 2 players anyways. Knowing how FA works, those second tier players will wait until the top FAs sign anyways to set the market, so its not like we'll be losing out on anyone while we're courting Paul. I really see no reason not to go all in for him.

What do you think should our first order of business in FA be offering CP3 a max deal?

I think if we get a big name coach in place, along with the prospect of playing with the best upcoming frontcourt in the league, and give him a max contract, we could sell Paul on coming here.

I don't know, maybe we can get him and Iggy to team up here. We have to amnesty CV and they might have to take a little less money...

Paul/Stuckey
Knight/Singler
Iguodala/Middleton
Moose/JJ
Drummond/FA

+ Draft pick

I don't think we have a chance though.

Mr. Krabs wrote:I don't know, maybe we can get him and Iggy to team up here. We have to amnesty CV and they might have to take a little less money...

Paul/Stuckey
Knight/Singler
Iguodala/Middleton
Moose/JJ
Drummond/FA

+ Draft pick

I don't think we have a chance though.

Trade Knight + Stuckey for Eric Gordon
Sign CP3 + Iggy
Sign Jarret Jack + Earl Clark

CP3 / Jack
Gordon / Middleton
Iggy / Singler
Monroe / Clark
Drummond / Veteran C

If Gores is really going all out might as well go big or go home.

The way I see it, he ok'd the trade to the Clippers, who had less talent at the time than we have now. If a player is willing to go to the Clippers, he's willing to play anywhere.

Its not like he'd be leaving some dynasty either. They are a 4th seed in the west, who got swept in the 2nd round last year, and could very well lose in the 1st round this year to MEM.

I say another early playoff exit and Paul will want out.

Don't underestimate the difference in competition in the East as a selling point either. He comes here and he'd have a lot easier time winning than he does now out West. I think if we added CP3 to this roster we could instantly be a 3 seed in the East. Which would already be better than what he is now in the West.

He's not going to take less money to leave for a less talented team.

I would bet my life savings that CP3 will not sign with Detroit.

Let's say the Knicks somehow lose in the first round and we really want to attract CP3 to sign to Detroit...

Offer the Knicks: Stuckey, Knight, Monroe, Jerebko and the 2013 pick for Melo and Shumpert

Sign Josh Smith

CP3, who hinted at wanting his own big 3 with Melo now gets his chance but this time with Melo+Smith+Drummond

Sign Jack / Clark to come off the pine

Convince Tony Allen to take a pay cut to split SG time with Shumpert


CP3 / Jack
Allen / Shumpert
Melo / Singler / Middleton
Smith / Clark
Drummond / Vet FA

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But imagine that lineup

dmize wrote:^

But imagine that lineup

The trade seems funny but is actually pretty realistic if the Knicks somehow lose. Dolan wont pay two max deals for a perennial first round exit.

Plus a package of Knight + Monroe + 2013 Draft pick is better than what Denver got for Melo esp if our pick is 5-7 overall

I definitely agree that Gores and Dumars need to "go all out" and that means making CP3 a max offer. It would be amazing to see him as a Piston but it's really unrealistic. Why would he want to come to Detroit?

Minas wrote:I definitely agree that Gores and Dumars need to "go all out" and that means making CP3 a max offer. It would be amazing to see him as a Piston but it's really unrealistic. Why would he want to come to Detroit?

To play with Drummond, Smith, and his butt buddy Melo

New York isn't trading Melo. Even if they get swept in the 1st round. Melo just had probably the best year of his career. There are 14 guys on that roster that would get dealt before him.

The chances that Paul signs with us are about 1 in a million

But as Jim Carey says

"so your telling me there's a chance"

sfballa13 wrote:

Minas wrote:I definitely agree that Gores and Dumars need to "go all out" and that means making CP3 a max offer. It would be amazing to see him as a Piston but it's really unrealistic. Why would he want to come to Detroit?

To play with Drummond, Smith, and his butt buddy Melo

There is no way in hell that Smoove and Melo will be in Detroit, this isn't 2K.

BDM22 wrote:He's not going to take less money to leave for a less talented team.

Take CP3 out of the equation for both teams, and do they really have a better supporting cast than us?

Most of their roster is old vets past their prime.

Drummond/Monroe > Griffin/Jordan

The rest of their roster is nothing special that we couldn't duplicate with our leftover money in FA and in the draft.

Right now they have more talent because of Paul. But if you put him on our team, we would have more talent, imo.

As for the money, its not like we're talking the difference between a Max deal and an MLE. Say we offered him 5 yrs/90 mil, and the Clippers offered 5 yrs/100 mil. Thats not a huge difference where he'd be leaving a ton of money.

Bottom line if he wants to stay there, he will stay. But if by chance he wants to explore free agency and is undecided about staying, all I'm saying is we should be prepared to offer him a max contract. As far as I know he has yet to come out and say he's definitely resigning there. So until then, he should be our main target in FA

The Moose wrote:The chances that Paul signs with us are about 1 in a million

But as Jim Carey says

"so your telling me there's a chance"

Still better chance than us getting a superstar in this weak draft, lol, but doesn't stop ppl from talking about tanking to get the #1 pick. lol. So I figured a CP3 thread is worthy of discussion too with Gores coming out today saying he's ready to spend big.

And tbh there's no reason we shouldn't be pursuing him hard. We have a major need at his position. We have the money to spend. We're a top 5 franchise all time, in terms of wins and championships. Its time this franchise started acting like it, when it comes to recruiting FAs. Even the lowly Lions were able to attract top FAs this offseason with limited funds. There's really no reason we shouldn't be able to lure a top FA away from the Clippers. This isn't the Lakers or MIA we're talking about.

^

Im happy to go after him, actually getting him is a different story

IF we just missed the playoffs with our young team you could make a case for us being an extremely attractive destination for free agents... including CP3.

But that didn't happen!

Should we offer him the Max? Of course! Why wouldn't you at least make a phone call?

I doubt he accepts the offer, but it should certainly be made.

As for why he wouldn't leave the Clippers... it's still LA, he plays with Blake Griffin, he'll get more money and more guaranteed years there and probably more endorsement contracts.

ComboGuardCity wrote:I would bet my life savings that CP3 will not sign with Detroit.

As an advance, I'll give up my next pay check and I'll hand off the keys to my Dodge Charger with the 24 inch rims included...

I don't think you realize that he left NO because he wanted to go to a bigger market. DET is not a big market. We won't be able to "offer more money than everyone else" because there is an offer limit and literally like 5 different teams have that ability, and they are all players for Paul.

Come on be somewhat realistic.

Besides why would he leave LA? He had the market, the players around him, and would be able to get more money there than anywhere else. If he were to leave, it'd be either to Atlanta or Dallas who would try to pair him with JSmith and Howard.