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Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:11 pm
by aad
Joe should go after gordon this summer they seem like they want to trade him but what will it take to get him stuckey and our num 7 pick?
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:01 pm
by Timmaytime
Please can we not trade the #7 for Gordon
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:02 pm
by mercury
This has been discussed in other threads but it's cool... I'm starting to warm up to this idea as long as we can send back substantial salary (re Stuckey & CV)... the sticking point is having a small backcourt with Knight & EG...
EG is not as short as some may think with his span.
I'd prefer dealing our pick & Stuckey for Rondo... use the F.A. $'s for a good defender/shooter at SG... then convert BK into a super sub.
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:11 pm
by aad
Im sorry if this has been discussed i had no idea just trying to keep the forum going
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:20 pm
by Blkbrd671
aad wrote:Im sorry if this has been discussed i had no idea just trying to keep the forum going
well it helps to look at the list of threads . but i feel you. once we pick a coach this board is going to be ded
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:45 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Hey look! Another thread about Eric Gordon!
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:52 pm
by ComboGuardCity
Eric Gordon should be had for expirings and Stuckey. Nothing more. He's a bad contract at the moment. No way we give up a pick for him.
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:49 am
by ImHeisenberg
mercury wrote:I'd prefer dealing our pick & Stuckey for Rondo... use the F.A. $'s for a good defender/shooter at SG... then convert BK into a super sub.
How about we send our two second rounders and Singler to Miami for LeBron James and their next three first round picks too?
Or, how about we sign and trade Maxiell to Portland for Aldridge and Lillard?
I mean, if teams are just throwing good players at us for nothing, why not!?!
[please don't remind me that Rondo is injured, that would require me to remind you that Boston is NOT trading Rondo, thanks]
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:54 am
by Cowology
I have mixed feelings on Gordon, due largely to his injury history. IF healthy he'd be a nice fit. IF unhealthy he's an albatross. That lack of certainty makes his value rather questionable.
Would I give up the #7 pick for him IF the Hornets took back bad salary? I guess...but we really don't have any bad contracts anymore. We already unloaded Lil Ben. Maxiell is now an expiring. CV can still be amnestied. Stuckey bought out (and he only has 1 yr remaining anyway). Believe it or not Jerebko is now our worst contract and his contract only runs 2 more yrs @ 4.5 mil.
Couldn't really see the Hornets (not ready to call them the Pelicans yet) taking on salary anyway.
IF all it took was expiring contracts? Yes. I'd rather slightly overpay Gordon than vastly overpay an average player in free agency. It's a gamble...but playing it safe isn't going to get us anywhere. Not giving up the #7 pick (even in a wk draft) for the privilege of taking on that financial risk.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:28 am
by HotelVitale
It's all here here in this thread, already about beat it to death:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1246667Highlights include: details on Gordon's injury history and comparison with other frequently injured players, debate about trading BK for Gordon, analysis of just how good Gordon was. It was a good discussion, still active as of a few days ago.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:46 am
by Minas
Watching this makes me want Eric Gordon
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1LyS01da0[/youtube]
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:02 pm
by mercury
ImHeisenberg wrote:mercury wrote:I'd prefer dealing our pick & Stuckey for Rondo... use the F.A. $'s for a good defender/shooter at SG... then convert BK into a super sub.
How about we send our two second rounders and Singler to Miami for LeBron James and their next three first round picks too?
Or, how about we sign and trade Maxiell to Portland for Aldridge and Lillard?
I mean, if teams are just throwing good players at us for nothing, why not!?!
[please don't remind me that Rondo is injured, that would require me to remind you that Boston is NOT trading Rondo, thanks]
Yes, because dealing our pick & a decent player is like trading Singler for Lebron
From ESPN "According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard, general managers across the NBA "insist" that the star point guard is available."
Re: Eric Gordan
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:43 pm
by DetroitDon15
mercury wrote:ImHeisenberg wrote:mercury wrote:I'd prefer dealing our pick & Stuckey for Rondo... use the F.A. $'s for a good defender/shooter at SG... then convert BK into a super sub.
How about we send our two second rounders and Singler to Miami for LeBron James and their next three first round picks too?
Or, how about we sign and trade Maxiell to Portland for Aldridge and Lillard?
I mean, if teams are just throwing good players at us for nothing, why not!?!
[please don't remind me that Rondo is injured, that would require me to remind you that Boston is NOT trading Rondo, thanks]
Yes, because dealing our pick & a decent player is like trading Singler for Lebron
From ESPN "According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard, general managers across the NBA "insist" that the star point guard is available."
Eric Gordon doesn't have alot of value but outside of offering Jerebko, Knight, and DNP-CV for him straight up i'd pass in any other offer or form. Not taking on that salary without giving it up.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 9:36 pm
by tradez401
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hna3Ip0fUg8[/youtube]
only if he wasnt injury prone
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 9:42 pm
by DetroitDon15
Expiring of Stuckey with Siva and jerebko works for me.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 10:09 pm
by sc8581
I want Ryan Anderson in any deal for Gordon as well.
Monroe, Jerebko, Stuckey and Villanueva for Gordon, Anderson and Jason Smith, maybe a future pick also
Drummond/Smith
Anderson/Smith/Smith
Smith/Datome/KCP
Gordon/KCP
Jennings/Billups
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 10:59 pm
by ImHeisenberg
There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.
A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 11:08 pm
by sc8581
ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.
A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.
Maybe not, but he's certainly more talented than Monroe, you know, the guy who will get close to a MAX contract next summer.
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Sun Aug 4, 2013 11:21 pm
by ImHeisenberg
sc8581 wrote:ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.
A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.
Maybe not, but he's certainly more talented than Monroe, you know, the guy who will get close to a MAX contract next summer.
I'll take the reliable consistency of Monroe, over Gordon's 40-50 games per season. Over the last three seasons he's only played in 107 out of 246, playing in 43% of the games.
And at that, in the 42 games Gordon played last season, he only averaged 17 PPG at 40% shooting. I don't know how you can believe that he's "more talented" than Monroe. I'll gladly take 16 & 10, over 17 and 3 (assists).
Re: Eric Gordon
Posted: Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:10 am
by DetroitPistons
ImHeisenberg wrote:There's no combination of players I would want in return for Monroe, unless Anthony Davis was in that deal somewhere.
A nice rule for teams who want to compete for a title- don't pay max contracts to guys who aren't max contract players. Eric Gordon is NOT a max contract player by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't agree with that rule. Look at Brooklyn for example. Pierce, KG, and JJ are all very overpayed at this point in their careers yet they are a contender because their owner is willing to spend. If Joe feels like he can vault us into the top 4 in the East by taking on a big contract then he should do it. You have to make some sacrifices if you want to win and overpaying players if often one of those sacrifices.