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Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:10 pm
by vege
Well sorry but it has to be done :D

With Dwight Howard and Chris Paul wanting to play together, we are the team that can make it happen. All we need is 1 trade.

So, option #1

Detroit Out: Andre Drummond, Kyle Singler, Rodney Stuckey.
Detroit In: Kawhi Leonard.

Draft Shabazz Muhammad at #8 and there we go.

Dwight Howard / Slava Kravtsov
Greg Monroe / Jonas Jerebko
Kawhi Leonard / Khris Middleton
Shabazz Muhammad
Chris Paul / Brandon Knight

Jonas Jerebko $ 4,500,000
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Brandon Knight $ 2,793,960
Shabazz Muhammad $ 2,136,100
Kawhi Leonard $ 1,887,840
Slava Kravtsov $ 1,500,000
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

$13,193,226

Dwight Howard $20,513,178
Chris Paul $18,668,431

$56,874,835 + 3 cap holds put us just below the 58,5 Salary Cap.

Sign a bunch of veterans and you're a contender for the foresee future.

I'll post a 2nd option with Charlotte below.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:18 pm
by vege
So option #2.

Detroit Out: Andre Drummond, #8, Kyle Singler, Rodney Stuckey and Jonas Jerebko
Detroit In: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and #4 (Victor Oladipo)

Dwight Howard / Slava Kravtsov
Greg Monroe
Kidd-Gilchrist / Khris Middleton
Victor Oladipo
Chris Paul / Brandon Knight

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist $ 4,809,840
Victor Oladipo $ 3,105,500

Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Brandon Knight $ 2,793,960
Slava Kravtsov $ 1,500,000
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

Dwight Howard $20,513,178
Chris Paul $18,668,431

$56,266,235 + 4 cap holds and we're just below the 58,5 Salary Cap.

Add guys like Antawn Jamison and Kenyon Martin, Mickael Pietrus and the #38 to be our bench and you're good to go.

I'll post an option #3 with LAL.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:32 pm
by vege
Option #3

Rodney Stuckey $ 8,500,000
Jonas Jerebko $ 4,500,000
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Brandon Knight $ 2,793,960
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400
Shabazz Muhammad $ 2,136,100
Slava Kravtsov $ 1,500,000
Kyle Singler $ 1,045,000
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

$27,812,786

Sign Chris Paul for the maximum straight up.

Chris Paul $18,668,431

Call the LALaland and offer Drummond, Stuckey, Jerebko and Kravtsov in a sign and trade for Dwight Howard.

Before the trade goes down, Sign a bunch of role player wingers just above the MLE and burn the rest of the cap space we'd still have.

Corey Brewer or Al-Farouq Aminu $ 6,000,000
Gerald Henderson $ 6,000,000

Sign a bunch of min salary vet (Jamison/Martin/Odom/Pietrus/Billups) for depth

Dwight Howard / Lamar Odom
Greg Monroe / Antawn Jamison / Kenyon Martin
Corey Brewer / Kyle Singler / Mickael Pietrus
Gerald Henderson / Shabazz Muhammad / Khris Middleton
Chris Paul / Brandon Knight / Chauncey Billups

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:37 pm
by roc
no thanks on anything involving trading Andre

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:06 pm
by vege
r0cd0gg wrote:no thanks on anything involving trading Andre


So we finally get to the option #4 :lol:

Rodney Stuckey $ 8,500,000
Jonas Jerebko $ 4,500,000
Greg Monroe $ 4,086,454
Brandon Knight $ 2,793,960
Andre Drummond $ 2,462,400
Shabazz Muhammad $ 2,136,100
Slava Kravtsov $ 1,500,000
Kyle Singler $ 1,045,000
Khris Middleton $ 788,872

$27,812,786

Sign Dwight Howard to a max deal

Dwight Howard $20,513,178

Offer Stuckey's expiring + Shabazz Muhammad + Khris Middleton + 3 million (it's LAC after all) and a future 1st (2017?2018 I don't know) in a sing and trade for Chris Paul and Willie Green.

Chris Paul $18,668,431
Willie Green $1,399,507

$56,989,302 + 3 cap holds

Dwight Howard / Andre Drummond / Slava Kravtsov
Greg Monroe / Jonas Jerebko
Kyle Singler /
Willie Green /
Chris Paul / Brandon Knight

And you add the usual ring chasers.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:08 pm
by dVs33
I'd rather just sign CP3 and tell him we're trading for howard but don't. He'll be upset initially but then he'll fall in love with Dre and Moose and be happy.
Then we all live happily ever after with our rings.
done.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:58 pm
by tru2dagame
Well....this post has the right title.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:42 pm
by Cowology
IF we're going to ignore reality and think these guys would sign here, then I'd rather just sign CP3 and keep Drummond over Dwight.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:55 pm
by ImHeisenberg
I'll take CP3, but I'll pass D12. I'd prefer Drum.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:58 pm
by ComboGuardCity
Since this is fantasy, does any one think:

CP3
Mayo
Chandler
Monroe
Drummond

Would that be a contender in the East?

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:05 pm
by Piston Pete
How much cap space do we get simply by paying Stuckey to go away and amnestying CV?

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:53 pm
by Sheedpocalypse
I don't want this clown Howard anywhere near our young core.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:22 am
by vege
Cowology wrote:IF we're going to ignore reality and think these guys would sign here, then I'd rather just sign CP3 and keep Drummond over Dwight.


The point is, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard want to play together. The only way you get Chris Paul is if you also get Howard, and that's why I made this thread.

Not going to happen but Detroit is one of the only 2 teams that can make it happen, the other team is Houston but they also need to get creative (even more than Detroit).

Lakers and Clippers are not going to negotiate a sign and trade with each other that's for sure.

ImHeisenberg wrote:I'll take CP3, but I'll pass D12. I'd prefer Drum.


So do I but once again, the main point is CP3 reportedly wanting to play with D12.

Piston Pete wrote:How much cap space do we get simply by paying Stuckey to go away and amnestying CV?


We would be ~6 million short of offering both Howard and Paul max deals. Even if we dump Stuckey's full contract we'd still be short.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:43 am
by Piston Pete
vege wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:How much cap space do we get simply by paying Stuckey to go away and amnestying CV?


We would be ~6 million short of offering both Howard and Paul max deals. Even if we dump Stuckey's full contract we'd still be short.


I was thinking that if Dwight/CP3 doesn't pan out....maybe we could sell CP3 to the idea of joining forces with Iggy instead -- and of course Monroe and Drummond too.

CP3
#8 pick
Iggy
Monroe
Drummond

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:57 am
by Cowology
vege wrote:
Cowology wrote:IF we're going to ignore reality and think these guys would sign here, then I'd rather just sign CP3 and keep Drummond over Dwight.


The point is, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard want to play together. The only way you get Chris Paul is if you also get Howard, and that's why I made this thread.
I understood your point just fine. You apparently missed mine. ;-)

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:05 am
by vege
Cowology wrote:
vege wrote:
Cowology wrote:IF we're going to ignore reality and think these guys would sign here, then I'd rather just sign CP3 and keep Drummond over Dwight.


The point is, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard want to play together. The only way you get Chris Paul is if you also get Howard, and that's why I made this thread.
I understood your point just fine. You apparently missed mine. ;-)


Na you missed mine :roll: I know it won't happen. Or do you think I'm (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? We just hired Mo Cheeks to be our head coach.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:10 am
by vege
Piston Pete wrote:
I was thinking that if Dwight/CP3 doesn't pan out....maybe we could sell CP3 to the idea of joining forces with Iggy instead -- and of course Monroe and Drummond too.

CP3
#8 pick
Iggy
Monroe
Drummond


Lol. Iggy is a meh player. CP3 would only leave the Clippers to play with Howard. He would be leaving a hell lot of money on the table to do that. I bet if they can't find a way to join a team together they'll both be back to LAL and LAC.

Houston has a GM who is proven to not be afraid of do moves and if he sees a real possibility to sign Howard and Paul he will likely get it done.

It will be no easy task, he needs to find an owner willing to pay 15 million for Lin and 15 million for Asik and he has little to no incentive to add for an owner to do that.

And for the record, Iggy's max salary is $16,402,500, So for you "idea", waiving Stuckey and Slava and trading Singler without get any salary back would probably be enough to add Iggy and CP3.

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:14 am
by Cowology
vege wrote:
Cowology wrote:
vege wrote:
The point is, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard want to play together. The only way you get Chris Paul is if you also get Howard, and that's why I made this thread.
I understood your point just fine. You apparently missed mine. ;-)


Na you missed mine :roll: I know it won't happen. Or do you think I'm (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? We just hired Mo Cheeks to be our head coach.

OK fine. Moving on... 8-)

Re: Pipe Dream Offseason

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:29 am
by Jodi
No sir to trading Drummond...