Courtesy of "ThirdMan" Our Consensus Big Board as of 6/22
Big Board:
1. (2.84) Ben McLemore (25)
2. (3.21) Victor Oladipo (24)
3. (4.09) Otto Porter (22)
3. (4.09) Shabazz Muhammed (22)
4. (4.90) Trey Burke (20)
5. (5.47) Nerlens Noel (15)
6. (6.28) CJ McCollum (18)
7. (6.40) Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (15)
8. (6.43) Anthony Bennett (14)
9. (6.67) Alex Len (9)
10. (7.44) Cody Zeller (18)
11. (7.63) Michael Carter-Williams (8)
Others Recieving Votes:
1. Giannis Adetokunbo (4)
1. Ricky Ledo (4)
2. Allen Crabbe (3)
2. Gorgui Dieng (2)
2. Tim Hardaway Jr. (2)
2. Dennis Schroeder (2)
3. Tony Mitchell (1)
3. Steven Adams (1)
3. Archie Goodwin (1)
3. Rudy Gobert (1)
3. Reggie Bullock (1)
3. Nate Wolters (1)
3. Sergei Karasev (1)
3. Livio Jean-Charles (1)
3. Kelly Olynyk (1)
The Do Not Want List:
1. Michael Carter-Williams (14)
2. Anthony Bennet (8)
3. Nerlen Noels (6)
3. Alex Len (6)
4. Trey Burke (5)
5. Shabazz Muhammed (4)
5. Cody Zeller (4)
6. CJ McCollum (3)
7. Tony Mitcehll (2)
8. Ben McLemore (1)
8. Victor Oladipo (1)
8. Kelly Olynyk (1)
8. Shane Larkin (1)
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ComboGuardCity wrote:Big Board:
1. Shabazz Muhammad- Efficient Scorer/Killer Insticnt. All Star. (Harden mold less passing)
2. Ben Mclemore - Excellent Defender/Spot up shooter. (More athletic Danny Green)
3. Otto Porter - Classic Glue guy. Above Average Starter. (Tayshaun Prince)
4. Victor Oladipo - Good defender. Inconsistent spot up shooter. Average Starter. (Taller Avery Bradley)
5. Anthony Bennett - 3rd big with potential to be a starter at the 4. Low motor. (More skilled Landry)
6. Ricky Ledo - Pure Scorer and underrated distributor. Above average Starter - All Star potential. (OJ Mayo)
7. Archie Goodwin - Great Defender & Slasher. Great 6th man/starter (Eric Bledsoe)
8. Trey Burke - Great shot and good vision...but slow. (Jameer Nelson)
9. Nerlens Noel - Stone hands. Good shot blocker. 3rd big specialist (Poor Man's Camby)
10. CJ Mccollum- Great shooter, but slow. Rotation Player - 6th man (Lou Williams)
Want no Part of:
1. MCW - Overrated playmaking w/ no jumpshot
2. Len - Benefits from mystery and weak big men crop
3. Zeller - Tested well, but I don't see him as polished as people say. Might make a 3rd big, might be a suit clapper.
Dream Scenario: Mclemore & Shabazz at 8/13. (pipe dream) + Ledo/Goodwin to play overseas.
ImHeisenberg wrote:Big Board:
1. Ben McLemore- the most talented SG on the board. May lack a drive to win.
2. Victor Oladipo- the safest pick. You know you're getting great defense, effort, and athleticism.
3. Shabazz Muhammad- the biggest boom/bust pick. Killer instinct, and unquestionable drive to succeed.
4. Otto Porter- Another safe pick. He's probably an above average role player in the NBA.
5. Cody Zeller- Best PF/C player in the draft, IMO. Could be a fantastic back-up for Dre/Moose.
6. Trey Burke- Not a huge fan, but he's still in my top 10 board.
7. CJ McCollum- Going to be a gunner. Looks like Randy Foye 2.0, the Curry comparisons are a reach.
8. Nerlens Noel- Too many personality questions coming up, compounded by a serious knee injury.
9. Kentavious Pope- Great size for a 2-guard. Could be a very good 3/D player. Not a high ceiling.
10. Anthony Bennett- Seems injury prone, doesn't play defense, and is a tweener. But, he's still a top 10 prospect in this draft.
Want no Part of:
-Michael Carter-Williams; Just doesn't project to be more than an experiment to me.
-Alex Len; Hasn't stepped onto an NBA court and is already having foot/ankle fractures. No thanks!
Dream Scenario: Detroit takes Shabazz Muhammad at #8, and gets Isaiah Canaan and CJ Leslie in the second round.
Hotmayo wrote:1. Shabazz Muhammad - star potential
2. Gorgi dieng- all star big man potential
3. Trey Burke- best point guard in draft
4. Tony mitchell- best small forward in draft
5. Oladipo- defense athletic 2 guard
6. Noel- athletic defensive big with low build
7. Jamaal Franklin- dynamic player/ winner/ IQ player
8. McCullum - elite shooter/ best combo guard
9. Zeller - best power forward in draft
10. Mclemore- not enough killer instinct
No part of:
Bennett/ Len/ mcw
Dream scenario: Shabazz at 8 and dieng or tony mitchell at 13 with trades of course
Piston Prince wrote:Piston Prince
1) McLemore
2) Noel
3) Porter
4) Oladipo
5) Bennett
6) Shabazz
7) Zeller
8) MCW
9) McCollum
10) Schroeder
11) KCP
12) Giannis
Want no part of:
Burke (don't think he can hold up physically, overhyped here due to Michigan ties), Len (don't need a center, not a fan of Euro bigs)
Dream scenario: Trading for the Mav's pick, landing two of my top 12
ducler wrote:Big Board:
1. Ben McLemore - best shooter of the Draft, best wing of it too, good athlete, average-to-good defender, the best fit for us in this Draft
2. Shabazz Muhammad - we need a scorer, someone who has his competitiveness, plus he's potential to become a star, a great shooter and a good defender
3. Victor Oladipo - best wing defender, good shooter, and we need defense and shooting
4. Giannis Adetokunbo - I want this guy on our team, he can do everything and he could do it well, great potential, could be a star
5. Otto Porter - Tay 2.0, more scorer, less defender, but an all around player could also be good for us
6. Cody Zeller - as a back-up big, he would be awesome for us, great fit alongside our twin towers
7. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - poor man's McLemore, I'd took him for the same reasons
8. Ricky Ledo - Great potential,
9. Tim Hardaway Jr. - local product, good shooter, good athlete, potential
10. Allen Crabbe - good shooter, good scorer, good athlete
Want no Part of:
- C.J. McCullum: less of a PG than Brandon and very small to play SG
- Michael Carter-Williams: bad shooter, not an assurance to be that super playmaker we heard from, not so sure about his defense since Syracuse played zone
- Trey Burke: best PG of the Draft, from Michigan, good shooter, but alongside BK7 it would be a disaster defensivily, plus I want BK to be our PG
Dream Scenario:
I like your scenario ComboGuardCity, but I would took McLemore/Shabazz at 8, trade for the 13 to pick Adetokunbo and take Ledo/Hardaway in the second round.
vege wrote:McLemore
Oladipo
Burke
Porter
Shabazz
I don't feel the need to go beyond those 5.
Jodi wrote:
Big Board:
1. Muhammad
2. McLemore
3. McCullum
4. Oladipo
5. Noel
6. Kentavious Pope
7. Burke
8. MCW
9. Porter
10. Bennett
What no Part of:
Zeller
Len
Dream Scenario:
Whoever we get in the draft doesn't become a bust...
joseph mamah wrote:1. Oladipo- highest floor with a respectable ceiling. plus has the physical tools, work ethic and intelligence needed to maximize his potential.
2.Porter- solid all-around player, probably 3rd option at best on a good team, but does the little things to help you win.
3.Zeller- didnt look great in college, but was probably playing out of postion at center. has the physical tools to play PF, if he really does have a J I could see him being a David Lee or Ryan Anderson type guy.
4.McLemore- plenty of talent, but questionable heart.
5.Bennett- probably the most talented player in the draft, but health issues (shoulder/asthma) and a possible lack of motor push him down a little bit.
6.Adams- pretty raw offensively, but has the length, insticts and mobility/athletic ability to be a legit defensive anchor and those guys are tough to come by.
7.Noel- same as Adams, Noel probably has a higher ceiling than Adams but injuries may keep him from reaching it.
8.Ledo- high bust potential, but hes a top 10 talent in this draft imo.
9.McCollum- hes probably a 6th man on a good team.
10.Caldwell-Pope- at worst hes a solid 3 and D guy.
No part of- Bazz, Burke, Len, MCW, Mitchell
Dream scenario- Porter @ #8/Ledo @ #37/Snaer @ #56 or Oladipo/Ledo/Kabongo
c-dot wrote:
1. Mac- Great shooter and athlete, passes the eye test.
2. Bennett- Versatile, great scorer, loves to dunk.
3. Bazz- Great competitor, gets buckets
4. Adetokunbo- Amazing skill for his size, probably needs to stay overseas for a while though.
5. Zeller Good size and athleticism, can stretch the D
6. Kelly Olynyk Great scoring skills (18pts in 26min) can see little bit of Dirk in him.
7. CJ McCollum Could come in and be our best scorer but at what position?
8. Rudy Gobert Could be a beast on D or a total bust...
9. Burke Better than Knight but that's not saying a whole lot.
10. Nate Wolters thought I'd throw his name in, He was amazing in college but will it transfer?
Want no part of (w/ the 8th pick at least)
Noel- Sorry but Super-Skinny 1 dimensional guys w/ questionable knees don't usually make it.
Oladipo- AVERAGE NBA PLAYER written all over him imo.
Dream
Bazz @ 8
Olynyck @ 13
Buy a pick for Adetokunbo and stash him.
Wolters in the 2nd
haulerch wrote:Big Board:
1. McLemore- The best talent in this draft. Same way I felt about Drummond last year, if he slides to 5 then we NEED to trade up. He has an NBA skill set, super athletic, defense, shooting ability, and passing instincts.
2.Oladipo- Improved shot mixed with his high motor, defense, rebounding makes him #2 on my board. He is strong, physical, long, and an explosive athlete.
3. Anthony Bennett I have him ahead of Porter and that is no mistake. The kid is extremely long, 7'1 wing span, powerful, and an explosive finisher. Offensively, he scores both inside and outside with three point range and can attack off the dribble with both hands. Very good offensive rebounder. Probably a better fit next to Drummond than Monroe but I would like to have all three.
4. Otto Porter Jr. Improved shooting, high basketball IQ, high motor, and size and length will lead to him be a very solid basketball player but I dont see future All Star in his future. Just a very solid player. No shame in that.
5.CJ Mccollum He is a flat out scorer. He can shoot it with range, off the dribble, coming off of screens, great in transition, excellent in iso's, and a great ball handler. He has such a high basketball IQ and just an all around feel for the game. Solid court vision and can find the open man, sees mismatches. Good rebounder for his size. Disrupts passing lanes, great timing. Does not shy away from the moment, has won big games, high character, hard working player. Would like to see him improve on his on the ball D.
6. Alex Len[b] Has defensive and offensive potential. Has length and size, athletic, very good finisher, excellent rebounding potential.
7.[b]Shabazz Muhammad As a SG he has excellent measurements. Strong, can punish small defenders in post, can get out and run the floor. Aggressive offensive player who can shoot the 3, get to the line, post up smaller players, can score off the catch or coming off screens, and moves without the ball. Good offensive rebounder. Competitor and is driven.
8. KCP A less athletic version of McLemore. Intrigued by his scoring ability, rebounding, and defensive potential
9. Cody Zeller Athletic big, can score in a variety of ways (face up or back to the basket), has a lot of potential in the P N' R. High basketball IQ, understands defensive rotations, plays hard.
10. I guess you can throw Noel in here, a lot higher than 10, but I see 0% chance he falls to us.
Want no Part of:
Trey Burke- Small, will be a defensive liabilty nightly since he will be the smallest player on the court, doesnt fit with Knight. Not athletic. Struggles to finish in the paint over LENGTH! Takes a lot of 3's early in clock, would like to see him penetrate and kick but he doesnt take advantage of his speed. SUCKS on D.
MCW- Poor decision making, a lot of turnovers, horrible shot selection, forces passes, CANT shoot from the perimeter, poor finisher, not strong enough so he settles for floaters.
Dream Scenario:
Trade up to number 5 for McLemore.
engelbert321 wrote:1. Oladipo - safest pick. Great perimeter defender, which we desperately need.
2. McLemore - best shooter in the draft. Average defender.
3. Porter - another safe pick.
4. Shabazz - highest ceiling imo, but high risk/high reward. Could be Harden or D-league player.
5. Burke - trade Knight after.
6. Bennet
7. Zeller
8. KCP
9. Schroeder
10. Noel
Want no part of :
MCW
MrBigShot wrote:
Big Board:
1. Oladipo
2. McLemore
3. Burke
4. Shabazz
5. Porter
6. KCP
7. McCollum
8. Zeller
9. Bennett
10. Dieng
Want no Part of:
MCW - Can't shoot, didn't play well against better half of his competition. BK + MCW would lead the league in turnovers.
Tony Mitchell
Noel
Dream Scenario:
Drafting Shabazz at 8, who turns out to be Paul Pierce-lite.
Clarity wrote:Big Board:
1.Nerlens Noel - Clearly the best player in this draft, elite athleticism, nearly 7 feet.
2. Shabazz Muhammad - All Star Potential, elite work ethic, desires to be great. Weaknesses are fixable.
3. Otto Porter - Safest pick of the draft, Tayshaun Prince 2.
4. Victor Oladipo - Not much offensively but high character guy, off the charts motor, elite d potential.
5. CJ McCollum - Great iso scorer, well above avg shooter, All Star Potential
6. Ben McLemore - Through the roof potential, has yet to show 1/4 of potential, does he want it??
7. Michael Carter-Williams - Very good size & court vision at times. Cant shoot, turnover prone.
8. Trey Burke - Embraces the big moment, undersized, does a lot good, nothing great. Kemba Walker 2.
9. Anthony Bennett - Tweener, motor questions, injury questions. Talent is there though.
10. Cody Zeller - Good midrange game, super soft w/ back to the basket. Jump shooter as a pro.
Want no Part of:
McLemore
MCW
Zeller
Dream Scenario:
Mohammad
McCollum
need4detroit wrote:My final board.
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1.) Ben MacLemore (Best Case: Ray Allen)
2.) Victor Olodipo (Best Case: Dwayne Wade meets Tony Allen)
2.) Shabazz Muhammad (Best Case: Jerry Stackhouse meets Paul Pierce)
3.) Kentavious Caudwell Pope (Best Case: Kerry Kittles meets Jason Richardson)
4.) Allen Crabbe (trade down) (Best Case: Richard Hamilton with more range)
Phenomenonsense wrote:
Big Board:
1. Victor Oladipo: Easily the best prospect in a draft full of more question marks than Edward Nygma's house. A player who has some of the best shot selection in the Draft will do well to make the few shots he takes until he develops his game a bit more, while being a defensive stopper. In a draft with no shot creators, his downside seems almost trivial to mention.
2. Anthony Bennett: If Bennett gave the same intensity on offense he did on defense, or at least MORE consistently, he'd be challenging Dipo for one. Unfortunately he doesn't have that. I have none of the same concerns that others do about his "tweener" label. He has a deceptive "quickness" for his size that is almost Lebron like given his stature. From 3s, to face ups, he's a prospect I truly believe can play SF if it is decided before he wears his hat on draft night that he will be a SF. He'd need to get a bit leaner, and give 110% on the defensive end. Can he do it? We shall see. I believe in it enough for him to top my board at 2.
3. Otto Porter: Lowest ceiling, highest floor. A safe pick in a draft full of question marks. From here on out it is simply "how much does each good weigh for you compared to the bad?"
4. Shabazz Muhammad. Talked to death. I believe in his ability to score points and play hard on defense. That's more than I expect out of a lot of people in this draft. Seeing some video of him making obvious passes and all that is/was important for me. One of few players to get his own shot. (Shown flashes of being able to at the next level. Not immediate. Not guaranteed.)
5. Trey Burke: You don't draft players based on "fringe starters" on your team. I don't like his ability to play defense and the Jameer Nelson comparison makes me want to cry. I cringed at it and decided I NEVER wanted Burke after I saw it somewhere. Still, his leadership and floor general nature (even though he isn't a pass first guard. I don't think that's necessary so long as they set up an offense competently) is something we've needed and lacked for years.
6. Ben Mclemore: Good transition player and spot up shooter. As mentioned, there are no "get a shot" guys in the draft really, other than the one person that preceded him. My biggest issues with him come from interviews. The kid just sounds stupid. If someone is going to be stupid, they'd better be exquisite in some portion of their game for me to overlook it, and he doesn't have that.
7. Alex Len - Highest potential big. I see a ton of Valanciunas in this kid. The only question I'd have is if he likes to bang as much as Val does? He's good at a lot of things and big men come with a premium. Great trade bait if nothing else, and the potential to move Monroe to the highest bidder when his rookie deal is up. (Had this kid higher and kept moving him down. Still really like him despite his number.)
8. Giannis Adetokunbo - Really great prospect (in this draft) if only for the fact that he can be as good as anyone out there while also delaying our ability to be decent until one more year. If we can keep our pick one more year, perhaps we get a good SG in next years draft.
9. Cody Zeller - Watching him hit 3s (nba 3s) increased his stock in my eyes. Couple that with great standing athleticism and we have a guy with a good chance of becoming great.
10. Michael Carter-Williams - Not going to comment too much on him. I've defended him because people are so vehemently against him, not because I'm a big proponent of him. As far as his Assists in "tough games:" that's a very troublesome stat BUT assists also count on people making shots. I would like to see the numbers that show how many shots he got teammates, how many they missed, and how many of them were open/good shots vs bad shots.
(Jackie Carmichael is my second rounder all day.)
Want no Part of:
Noel - I feel like his knees will be fine: Mostly because he weighs 210 wet.
CJ McCollum - No.
DetroitDon15 wrote:
Big Board:
1. Nerlens Noel - Best player in this draft. Superior interior defender with Ben Wallace type d. Still think he is one despite the injury.
2. Ben McLemore - Best two guard in the draft. Can hit the three with ease. Solid defensively
3. Alex Len - Love his post game. Isn't quite polish but the skill is there. Instantly becomes a top ten center in the league offensively.
4. Trey Burke - Reminds me of Kemba Walker but better play making skills. Undersized but can make a team better. Great passer
5. Victor Oladipo - I'm sure he is the best wing defender in the draft. Lacks high end offensive game. I think he's the next Tony Allen. Is he too undersized?
6. Shabazz Muhammed - He is the boom or bust of the draft no doubt. Question is he the next James Harden or Nick Young.Shane
7 CJ McCollum - Excellent shooting from the three point line. Remind me a bit of Damien Lillard. He is the most polish/established in this draft I feel.
8. Otto Porter - I'm not sure I am buying the hype. Looked terrible against Golf Coast in the tournament.
9. Cody Zeller - Solid big man who can step back from ten feet of the basket. Not sure he has a good enough athletic game or back to the basket player to be at the next level.
10. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - Solid player on both ends of the court but not a starter on a championship team. Seems to be more of a sixth man type.
Want no Part of:
Anthony Bennett - Looks like Jason Maxiell part two. I can't see how he is athletic enough to play the 3.
Michael Carter-Williams - Bad TO/A Ratio and lacks scoring presence. Doesn't play motivated. Extremely raw. Bad fit next to Knight.
Shane Larkin - Undersized point guard who looks more like he's 5'9" than 5"11" Great drive but don't think he is a starter at the next level.
Dream Scenario:
Pistons acquire the Mavs pick and take both their picks to move up in this draft to acquire Ben McLemore.
jars wrote:My Big Board:
1) McLemore
2) Noel
3) Porter
4) Oladpio
5) Burke
6) Len
7) Bennett
8) MCW
Want no part of: (with pick 8)
McCollum, Zeller, Shabazz
Dream Scenario:
We snag 13th pick from Dallas. On trade the 13th pick to Charlotte for the rights to our own pick back.
Draft McLemore.
Middleton develops into starting quality SF while Knight improves his shooting and passing/decision making at the PG.
Get a reasonably high pick in 2014 and get a star player.
Bknight4three wrote:Bknight4three
Big Board (Not team or Need specific)
1. Ben Mclemore- (93.5) NBA athlete with a perfect NBA body . I'm not worried about his character and think it is being blown out of proportion. Starting SG day 1.
2. Victor Olidipo- (93) Highest floor/Lowest cieling of what I believe are the three top prospects. Great motor, scores in transition and finishes well around the rim. If I had confidence that he could be a consistent 3 point shooter he would be my top rated prospect.
3. Nerlens Noel- (93) Young elite shotblocker, plays passing lanes, unbelievable motor, great athlete and is not scared to protect the rim despite his twig body (which will mature). Sure fire #1 pick for me without the injury. I would still take him if I was Cleveland.
4. Trey Burke- (90.5) Pure PG that can score. He knows when it is time to get his teammates involved and when it is time to take over. Great feel in the pick and roll. Knows how to create space despite avg NBA athleticism.
5. Otto Porter- (90) Solid starter. Good size. Takes good shots, but I don't think he has the about to be a top 2-3 player on a championship level team.
6. Muhammad- (87) Has the potential to be the best player in the draft.Im a little worried about his about his ability to play team basketball because he can be a ball stopper. I love his jump shot and post game.
7. CJM- (85)combo scoring guard who shoots a high percentage. I think he's a safe pick that will at worst be a heady, smart, scoring 6th man.
8. Len- (85) Solid 7 footer with skills
9. Zeller- (83) Crafty and quick around the basket and will surprise people with how good his face up game can be.
10. Bennett- (83) I really like his game. He's a small PF and always will be, but he is quick, strong and can shoot. I don't think he's a great fit for Detroit but I like him as a prospect.
Want no part of:
MCW (not even in round 2)
Dream Scenerio:
Any of my top 5 players at #8 and Dieng in round 2
Timmaytime wrote:Username:
Timmaytime
Big Board:
1. Ben Mclemore: Excellent shooter, great athlete, explosive scorer and potential on defense. He is an immediate starter and would be the second best scorer on our team from day one.
2. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: Once again, excellent shooter, great athlete. Could be a great scorer and great defender in the NBA.
3. Victor Oladipo: Highest ceiling out of all the prospects, basically he is an NBA player no matter what it's just how far he develops
4. Otto Porter: Do it all forward, Nic Batum/Tayshaun Prince Ceiling
5. CJM: based on scoring potential alone, if he can get anywhere close to Steph Curry it will be worth it
6. Shabazz: Also based on scoring potential, could see him being the next Paul Pierce or the next Adam Morrison
7. Trey Burke: Good scorer/facilitator, questions about defense and size.
8. MCW: Excellent passer, great size. Can't shoot.
9. Alex Len: Excellent post game, would be a good third big.
10. Ricky Ledo: could be the best player to come out of this draft, coming from the second round.
Want no Part of:
Bennett: I'm not looking for another tweener.
Dream Scenario: Trade 8 and 56 for 12 and 29 so OKC can get Len, We draft KCP at 12, Ledo at 29 and stash him, and Myck Kabongo at 37.
princeofpalace wrote:1. Otto Porter
2. Ben Mclemore
3. Micheal Carter-Williams
4. Trey Burke
5. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6. Shabazz Mohammed
7. Alex Len
8. Nerlens Noel
9. Cody Zeller
10. Victor Oladipo
I want no part of Anthony Bennett
Natopher wrote:Big Board
1) Trey Burke - Athletically he's remarkably similar to Ty Lawson, both had similar college numbers. Good playmaker, great handles, great jumpshot. Just needs to improve finishing around the hoop.
2) CJ McCollum - To me it looks like he has all the tools to be a great PG, possibly the best in the draft. Only thing I think he's lacking in his playmaking ability (but I could be wrong about that).
3) Victor Oladipo - Potential to be best SG in the draft. Plays great defense, can knock down open jumpers. If he improves his jumper he'll be a valuable starter.
4) Ben McLemore - Currently the best SG in the draft, lots of potential. Not sure about his desire to improve though.
5) Shabazz Muhammad - I question his defensive and passing/playmaking abilities, but he can score and wants to be great.
6) Cody Zeller - Solid offense, good rebounding, and can play both 4/5. Would fit well with both Monroe & Drummond, perfect 3rd big off bench.
7) Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - Athletic 3 & D SG. Doesn't get to the lane much, but very solid jumper and defense.
8) Allen Crabbe - Rip Hamilton 2.0 with MUCH better 3 point range. Long and athletic, solid potential.
9) Michael Carter-Williams - I have concerns about his shooting and turnovers, but he's good at finding the open man, and his elite athleticism should help him finish at the rim.
10) Otto Porter - Very solid two way player, but I have serious concerns about his lateral quickness. Don't think he can stay with SFs in the NBA. If he had better lateral quickness, he'd be much higher.
Want no part of:
Anthony Bennet - Undersized stretch 4 who plays no defense? Pass.
Nerlens Noel - Injury prone and coming off ACL tear. Doesn't fit as 3rd big as he probably can't play well with Drummond.
Kelly Olynyk - I have little to no confidence in his game translating to the NBA. Also, he looks stupid.
Dream Scenario
Trey Burke falls to #8 where the Pistons draft him, and Allen Crabbe falls into the 2nd round where the Pistons draft him with #37.
ThirdMan wrote:Board:
1. Ben Mclemore
2. Kentavious Pope
3. Shabazz Muhammad
4. Trey Burke
5. Otto Porter
6. CJ Mccollum
7. Shabazz Muhammad
8. Victor Oladipo
9. Len
10. Zeller
Want no Part of:
1. MCW
2. Nerlens Noel
3. Bennet
Dream Scenario: McLemore Drops.
I know this was kind of lazy. I'll edit later with my reasons.
joeleolebo wrote:1. Victor Oladipo
2. CJ McCollum
3. Trey Burke
4. Otto Porter
5 Ben McLemore
6. Alex Len
7. Nerlens Noel
8. Reggie Bullock
9. Tim Hardaway Jr.
10. Sergei Karasev
Want no part of:
1. Anthony Bennett
2. Michael Carter Williams
3. Shabbazz Muhammad
OneBadMutha wrote:Want no part of:
Bazz - Below average defender. Will be a very poor defender if he plays the position he thinks he should play at the 2. Doesn't pass. Doesn't have the size or athletic ability to get off his shot whenever he wants. His hype is based on the fact that he's willing to shoot a lot and thinks he's Michael Jordan. Doesn't have a good attitude so when he's not getting his touches that he believes he should get, he'll be someone's problem child.
Burke - Just don't think you're winning a Championship if he's one of your 3 or 4 best players. If he's not one of your 3 or 4 best players, then he's not much of an upgrade over Knight. Burke and Knight cannot start together on a good team.
Will accept almost any other player currently ranked in the top 8 over those two.
Sheeeeed wrote:1. Otto Porter
2. Victor Oladipo
3. Shabazz Muhammad
4. CJ McCollum
5. Ben McLemore
6. Kentavious Caldwell Pope
7. Trey Burke
8. Giannis Adetokoubo
9. Cody Zeller
10. Livio Jean-Charles
Other Prospects I like: Snell, Crabbe, Ledo, Len, and Dieng
I Want No Part of: Noel, Bennett, or MCW
Dream Scenario: The Pistons take either McCollum or Shabazz @ 8 and get one of Snell, Crabbe, or Jean-Charlies @ 37.
ChipButty wrote:Big Board:
I haven't even looked at a lot of guys, including big names like Len and Adams, so not a true big board.
Just a list of guys and where I'd be comfortable drafting them.
1. Porter (1-8) - John Thompson III said he's the best player in the draft. That's good enough for me
2. Burke (1-8) - My favorite PG prospect in the draft. First time i saw him play I thought he was going to be a star.
3. Noel (1-8) - When he was healthy, he was the most dominant player in college.
4. Oladipo (1-8) - Athletic, loves playing D. Super hard worker. Always improving. What's not to like.
5. Zeller (8-13) - Super skilled and athletic. Great character. Safe pick with low risk of being a bust.
6. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (8-13)
7. Bennett (8) - The talent is clearly there, but he seems focused on playing away from the basket. My gut tells me to stay away.
8. Mclemore (8) - His shooting should stop him from being a complete bust, but I have serious doubts that he will live up to the pre-draft hype.
9. Shabazz (8 - 13) - Ideal size at SG and solid shooter, but something just doesn't feel right. Based on need/talent I don't mind us drafting him at #8, but I think there is high bust potential.
10. C.J. McCollum (8 - 13) - Hate picking a combo guard, but it looks like he's a legit scorer.
Late Round Sleepers: Jamaal Franklin, Dieng, Muscala
Want no Part of:
I haven't red flagged anybody, but I think Bennett, Mclemore, and Shabazz have the highest bust factor. If my top 4 are off the board, I am working the phones to try and and get a package I like for one of these 3 guys.
Dream Scenario:
Porter or Burke at #8. Use our two 2nd rounders to trade into late first and grab Franklin. Franklin is my pick for steal of the draft.
