Possible Deals with Boston

Piston Pete · Post #1 » by **Piston Pete** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:40 pm

A lot will depend on, 1) whether the Celtics are actually open to dealing Green or if he's off-limits, and 2) what they want in return. So I have a couple options below.

OPTION #1:
WE GETS: SF Jeff Green and SG Courtney Lee

THEY GET: PG/SG Rodney Stuckey, SF Kyle Singler, and SG Kim English, and a future 2nd rounder

They get young pieces and an expiring (Stuckey). They basically do this for a ton of future cap savings -- that and they tank for Wiggins. Stuckey also acts as insurance in case they also deal away Rondo.

OPTION #2:
WE GETS: SF Jeff Green and SG Courtney Lee

THEY GET: PG/SG Rodney Stuckey, SSF/PF Jonas Jerebko, SF Kyle Singler, and and a future 2nd rounder

They get young pieces and an expiring (Stuckey). This plan has future cap savings, but less than Option #1, but has them getting more talent -- that and they tank for Wiggins. Stuckey still acts as insurance in case they also deal away Rondo, and Jerebko is a glue-guy they can use at SF or PF.

OPTION #3:
WE GETS: SF Jeff Green and SG Courtney Lee

THEY GET: SF Kyle Singler, and SG Kim English, a HUGE TPE, and a future 2nd rounder

They get young pieces and a HUGE TPE for instant cap savings. They basically do this for a ton of future cap savings -- that and they tank for Wiggins.

OPTION #4:
WE GETS: PG Rajon Rondo, SF Jeff Green and SG Courtney Lee

THEY GET: PG Brandon Knight, PG/SG Rodney Stuckey, PF Charlie Villanueva SF Kyle Singler, and SG Kim English, a future 1st rounder, and a future 2nd rounder.

They get young pieces and expirings (Stuckey/CV). They basically turn all their bad contracts into young pieces, expirings, future cap savings, and future picks -- that and they tank for Wiggins.

Jodi · Post #2 » by **Jodi** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:52 pm

If we can create a package where we'll get Rondo and Green I'll do option 1, 2 and 3...I was just wondering how Dallas has a chance to get Rondo but the Piston's aren't being rumored to be interested at all...Hopefully no news is good news...

Rondo/Knight
KCP/Knight
Green/Middleton
Monroe/Mitch
Drummond/Monroe
*Dang, that's beautiful*

triplet1984 · Post #3 » by **triplet1984** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:59 pm

Celtics would have be serious about tanking for the Rondo deal to work. But I'd love either Rondo or Green or both. Rondo's exactly the kind of tough winner this team needs.

ComboGuardCity · Post #4 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:05 pm

I don't really want Rondo. He can't shoot which will clog the lane. Get green. Get iguodala for the 2 and I think we have a team who can compete with the Pacers in the central.

Knight/Maynor
Iguodala/Kcp
Green/Iguodala
Monroe/Mitchell/Green
Drummond/Monroe/Blair

Bench players
10. Khris
11. Slava
12. English
13. Charlie V
14. Stackhouse
15. siva

Brt19 · Post #5 » by **Brt19** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:15 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:I don't really want Rondo. He can't shoot which will clog the lane. Get green. Get iguodala for the 2 and I think we have a team who can compete with the Pacers in the central.

Igoudala isn't great shooter either. He's better than Rondo but that's it. Why not having a great distributor? He can feed bigs.

I agree with you, Pistons need shooters but there aren't really available good overall basketball players who can shoot. If you can get a star PG, you don't look his shooting abilities. If you can get another star PG who can shoot, you should pick him but who is he and is he likely to come to Pistons?

ADflight1 · Post #6 » by **ADflight1** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:19 pm

I'd build a package around Knight and Singler for Rondo.

I think he fits what we need. A distributor that can play defense at an above average level.

Rondo
KCP
Shooter (Kyle Korver maybe)
Monroe
Drummond

Nice, balanced starting squad.

ComboGuardCity · Post #7 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:33 pm

Brt19 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:I don't really want Rondo. He can't shoot which will clog the lane. Get green. Get iguodala for the 2 and I think we have a team who can compete with the Pacers in the central.

Igoudala isn't great shooter either. He's better than Rondo but that's it. Why not having a great distributor? He can feed bigs.

I agree with you, Pistons need shooters but there aren't really available good overall basketball players who can shoot. If you can get a star PG, you don't look his shooting abilities. If you can get another star PG who can shoot, you should pick him but who is he and is he likely to come to Pistons?

I personally think Rondo is overrated as a playmaker who benefitted from playing with 3 hofers. He's got an attitude and seems to care more about his stats than his teammates. We can get Iguodala without giving up assets and we also give Knight a shot to play with 2 other competent wing players.

Natopher · Post #8 » by **Natopher** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:35 pm

I'd rather have Iggy than Rondo. We don't have to give up any assets for Iggy, and he's a better defender than Rondo. He's also a very good distributer. If we trade for Rondo we still need to get a quality starting SF, so I say just get Iggy and keep all our young players.

Brt19 · Post #9 » by **Brt19** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:48 pm

Fair enough.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Mavs would love having Rajon Rondo to chase Dwight Howard, but Boston needs Dallas to take multiple contracts off its books, sources say.

Maybe Pistons can help by taking salaries from both and giving small pieces. Green or S&T Mayo would be nice.

ComboGuardCity · Post #10 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:53 pm

Brt19 wrote:Fair enough.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Mavs would love having Rajon Rondo to chase Dwight Howard, but Boston needs Dallas to take multiple contracts off its books, sources say.

Maybe Pistons can help by taking salaries from both and giving small pieces. Green or S&T Mayo would be nice.

If they're not talking about Wallace then I'm assuming its Green, Bass, Lee. Ill take green and Basd in a heartbeat.

bkseven · Post #11 » by **bkseven** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:55 pm

Jeff Green? NO

Iggy? Eh maybe

Rondo? Yes, for the right pieces

Kilo · Post #12 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:56 pm

I don't take any bad contracts back unless I'm getting a 2014 first rounder back - and I have to believe Dallas' first would be heading to Boston in any such deal for Rondo.

I think Howard heads to Houston anyways. Cuban won't pull of a deal without having a verbal agreement from Dwight one would have to believe.

What could Dallas offer here for Rondo?

I do think we have the pieces to do a stand-alone deal with Boston if they are in total tank mode though. Depends on if Joe wanted to make a huge move or not.

ChipButty · Post #13 » by **ChipButty** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:52 pm

Boston is collecting assets, not dumping salary. They just agreed to take Gerald Wallace for 3 years $30M.

Plus, Green has way more value than anything proposed here.

DetroitSho · Post #14 » by **DetroitSho** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:14 pm

ChipButty wrote:Boston is collecting assets, not dumping salary. They just agreed to take Gerald Wallace for 3 years $30M.

Plus, Green has way more value than anything proposed here.

Ummm taking on Wallace was the cost of doing business to dump Paul Pierce and Garnett's salary and still get 3 first round picks. Even though they took on his salary, they still for the most part would be looking to get out from under their longer term contracts.

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rock digger · Post #15 » by **rock digger** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:17 am

These offers for Green/Rondo are pretty hilarious not gonna lie. The Celtics aren't desperate to trade their players that are actually in their prime. They had no reason to keep Garnett/Pierce because they were old. I'm sure that if they could get a good deal for Green/Rondo, they'll do it, but "Singler + CAP SPACE!!!!!!" and "Knight + CAPPPPP SPACEEE!" isn't going to get jack squat. You have people on the Celtics board who don't want to trade Green for MKG, who is 10x the player Singler is now, and probably a ton better in the future. Everyone except Chip should be happy that Celtic fans don't come to this forum or they'd laugh at all of you for eternity.

Natopher · Post #16 » by **Natopher** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:20 am

MKG is overrated

need4detroit · Post #17 » by **need4detroit** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:22 am

Jeff Green and our starting 5 just may be set for many years.

rock digger · Post #18 » by **rock digger** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:22 am

If you don't think he's 10x better than Singler then I think you might be a bit bias.

princeofpalace · Post #19 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:23 am

rock digger wrote:These offers for Green/Rondo are pretty hilarious not gonna lie. The Celtics aren't desperate to trade their players that are actually in their prime. They had no reason to keep Garnett/Pierce because they were old. I'm sure that if they could get a good deal for Green/Rondo, they'll do it, but "Singler + CAP SPACE!!!!!!" and "Knight + CAPPPPP SPACEEE!" isn't going to get jack squat. You have people on the Celtics board who don't want to trade Green for MKG, who is 10x the player Singler is now, and probably a ton better in the future. Everyone except Chip should be happy that Celtic fans don't come to this forum or they'd laugh at all of you for eternity.

And, I doubt Celtics fans wanted to trade Doc to LAC or even give up Pierce/KG for the Nets crap package. Fact is, Boston's recent moves suggest that they are rebuilding so there will be a number of moves made that Boston fans are going to hate

rock digger · Post #20 » by **rock digger** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:26 am

So would you say that if you had Jeff Green and your team was in rebuilding mode that you would want to trade him for a) a player who can't start as a PG on the pistons , b) Kyle Singler (lol), and c) the second rounder who might not make the pistons roster, and finally d), a second round pick?

Hilarious.