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Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:28 pm
by ARoS
What do you guys think of him?
Have to say that in the limited footage i've seen of him he doesn't really seem to have what it takes at this level. Too early to judge him or have you seen enough?
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:29 pm
by itjustdo
alex0000 wrote:What do you guys think of him?
Have to say that in the limited footage i've seen of him he doesn't really seem to have what it takes at this level. Too early to judge him or have you seen enough?
Seen enough of him to make a judgment.
He is what he is: a deep bench big man that can come in on occasion to mop up.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:42 pm
by joseph mamah
its always seemed to me like he'd be more comfortable on a volleyball court.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:33 pm
by ImHeisenberg
He had a double-double once upon a time.
He had a truly awful rookie season. In his defense, Frank didn't give him any minutes beyond garbage time when a game was already decided, which isn't going to help a player's development a lot.
I'm personally not expecting much of anything from him. If he somehow comes back this season as a serviceable back-up center, it will be a pleasant surprise.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:00 pm
by dVs33
he's a big young athletic guy that plays behind dre and moose. im fairly happy with that. He struggled as a rookie, but there's no reason to think he wont get better.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:08 pm
by Brt19
dVs33 wrote:he's a big young athletic guy that plays behind dre and moose. im fairly happy with that. He struggled as a rookie, but there's no reason to think he wont get better.
He'll be 26 in a month, not really young.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:08 pm
by vege
He is a very good post defender and he can dunk and that's about it.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:37 pm
by DocRI
vege wrote:He is a very good post defender and he can dunk and that's about it.
Truthfully, isn't that all we need in our third string center? Because that's the role he'll most likely play. I expect most backup center minutes to actually go to Monroe (i.e. both Moose and Dre won't regularly sit at the same time). If we're talking about a capable defensive big with six fouls to burn, Krav should be able to fit the bill.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:56 pm
by vege
DocRI wrote:
Truthfully, isn't that all we need in our third string center? Because that's the role he'll most likely play. I expect most backup center minutes to actually go to Monroe (i.e. both Moose and Dre won't regularly sit at the same time). If we're talking about a capable defensive big with six fouls to burn, Krav should be able to fit the bill.
We need our third string center to be able to rebound and Kravtsov makes CV look like a rebounding machine. He is a disgrace on the boards, sadly. If he could learn how to rebound yeah he wouldn't even be a third stringer he would be a solid backup.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:01 pm
by Q00
vege wrote:He is a very good post defender and he can dunk and that's about it.
He's a below average post defender at best and I'm not sure he can even dunk either lol. I recall him bobbling the ball a lot around the rim and often getting backed down in the post. The only thing I'm really confident he can do consistently good is shoot free throws. He seems to have a good form. Other than that he is utterly useless on a basketball court. I think Dumars had a great offseason, but if we end up keeping him over Siva I'll be pretty disapponted.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:55 pm
by vege
I am not sure if you're trolling as usual or if you never watched him play. Honestly I don't care either way.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 am
by Italians in NBA
In Europe probably nobody could understand why the Pistons signed him.
He has for sure a big body but really cannot play in an Euroleague top 16 team. Can he play limited decent minutes in the NBA?
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:14 am
by The_Irony
He's a top 400 player in the world, he just happens to be between 350-400
NBA 10th man so in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:21 am
by Italians in NBA
The_Irony wrote:He's a top 400 player in the world, he just happens to be between 350-400
NBA 10th man so in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter.
I'm not trolling. But where can you find him in a top 400 players list? Maybe it was not so accurate.
Really I can think to so many NOT NBA players that are better than him.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:23 am
by The_Irony
Italians in NBA wrote:The_Irony wrote:He's a top 400 player in the world, he just happens to be between 350-400
NBA 10th man so in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter.
I'm not trolling. But where can you find him in a top 400 players list? Maybe it was not so accurate.
Really I can think to so many NOT NBA players that are better than him.
400 players = the NBA. I said the world but dont be so literal.
He's at the bottom of the 400 i dont think it's debatable.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:34 am
by Italians in NBA
The_Irony wrote:Italians in NBA wrote:The_Irony wrote:He's a top 400 player in the world, he just happens to be between 350-400
NBA 10th man so in the grand scheme of things it doesnt matter.
I'm not trolling. But where can you find him in a top 400 players list? Maybe it was not so accurate.
Really I can think to so many NOT NBA players that are better than him.
400 players = the NBA. I said the world but dont be so literal.
He's at the bottom of the 400 i dont think it's debatable.
OK (not including some hundreds of NOT NBA players) you are right.
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:15 am
by tradez401
Q00 wrote:vege wrote:He is a very good post defender and he can dunk and that's about it.
He's a below average post defender at best and I'm not sure he can even dunk either lol. I recall him bobbling the ball a lot around the rim and often getting backed down in the post. The only thing I'm really confident he can do consistently good is shoot free throws. He seems to have a good form. Other than that he is utterly useless on a basketball court. I think Dumars had a great offseason, but if we end up keeping him over Siva I'll be pretty disapponted.
Id be pissed but the pistons are known to get rid of players with potential (afflalo, english, summers)
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:22 am
by Minas
He's not an NBA-caliber player IMO
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:30 am
by Italians in NBA
Minas wrote:He's not an NBA-caliber player IMO
He's not an Euroleague-caliber player too, IMO
Re: Kravtsov
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:57 pm
by The Penguin
Krav may well be the worst player in the NBA. Fringe roster spots should either go to young players (ie Siva, Mitchell) or to old vets providing a locker room pressence (the Jerry Stackhouses of the world), not 26 year old non prospects who don't do anything at NBA level.