Trading Monroe: Nic Batum? Kawhi Leonard?

[Damon_3388]

I'd be interested in trading Greg Monroe for Nicolas Batum. I think he fills a few needs as far as outside shooting and perimeter defense, and is a good distributor from the 3 spot (averaging 6 assists per game so far, after averaging 5 per game last year). Would even throw in Rodney Stuckey to help make the salaries match and slightly sweeten the deal. Not sure if Portland would bite though.

Would also be interested in exploring Monroe for Kawhi Leonard, straight up. Can even throw Datome or Jerebko in there as a sweetener. Again, not sure if the Spurs would bite.

Thoughts? Giving up too much? Pipedreams? Wouldn't trade Monroe at all?

[menten]

Pls dont make me puke. For batum or leonard, seriously?

Rule nr. 1: dont ever trade a 18 and 10 big man whos still improving for a roleplayer

Seriously whats to great about leonard. Hes overrated as ****

[fromdowtown]

LOL @ the idea of trading Drummond at this point.

But Leonard is really good, not what Detroit needs anyway

[Jackattaq]

Pls dont make me puke. For batum or leonard, seriously?

Rule nr. 1: dont ever trade a 18 and 10 big man whos still improving for a roleplayer

Seriously whats to great about leonard. Hes overrated as ****

Yeah, WHAT HE SAID.

Seriously, Monroe has been the Best Piston on a game to game basis this year and he's developed a lot as a postup guy. There aren't too many of them in this league that have the footwork to be an elite big man, even Blake Griffin and Dwight Howard have less offensive game/moves than Monroe. They just happen to be supremely athletic. Considering the athletic (or lack of) tools that Monroe is working with, he's playing very well. He's also putting forth way more effort defensively that he used to. Can't see us trading him and I think he'll get max or close to it at season's end with the improvement's he's made.

[rmfc]

Don't care about the stats of certain players. Even Al Jefferson has incredible stats. It doesn't mean it turns into Ws.

If things don't work out quickly enough, one of Josh Smith or Greg Monroe needs to go.

[DetroitSho]

Pls dont make me puke. For batum or leonard, seriously?

Rule nr. 1: dont ever trade a 18 and 10 big man whos still improving for a roleplayer

Seriously whats to great about leonard. Hes overrated as ****

But you'd trade an even younger 11 and 11 big who is still improving? Gotcha.

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[menten]

Pls dont make me puke. For batum or leonard, seriously?

Rule nr. 1: dont ever trade a 18 and 10 big man whos still improving for a roleplayer

Seriously whats to great about leonard. Hes overrated as ****

But you'd trade an even younger 11 and 11 big who is still improving? Gotcha.

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everybody can put up 11 and 11 in enough minutes. those are prime dalembert stats

[The Penguin]

How about:

Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Singler

For

Russell Westbrook


The deal is cap neutral, ~$14 mi going each way. Pistons could dump Jonas and Bynum and have enough cap room for a max FA next summer next to Westbrook-Drummond-Smith.

[Piston Pete]

How about:

Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Singler

For

Russell Westbrook


The deal is cap neutral, ~$14 mi going each way. Pistons could dump Jonas and Bynum and have enough cap room for a max FA next summer next to Westbrook-Drummond-Smith.

Uh...no.



Guys, we just need to dangle CV and his large expiring contract plus maybe Bynum (if necessary) for a decent SF upgrade over Singler.

[DetroitSho]

Pls dont make me puke. For batum or leonard, seriously?

Rule nr. 1: dont ever trade a 18 and 10 big man whos still improving for a roleplayer

Seriously whats to great about leonard. Hes overrated as ****

But you'd trade an even younger 11 and 11 big who is still improving? Gotcha.

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everybody can put up 11 and 11 in enough minutes. those are prime dalembert stats

I could say the same thing about Moose and reference Al Jefferson, but
1) its counter productive
2) everything shouldn't be viewed in a vacuum.

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[piston1423]

I'm honestly like 70(no trade)30(trade) on Monroe. If I trade him, it's for Leonard. I'd also convince Orlando to some kind of Stuckey for Affalo deal. Most people didn't like my idea when I brought it up a few months ago. Right now though, I don't want to trade Monroe. I rather keep Monroe and put one of the big 3 on the bench. For the time being. However, I like either any of these 4 lineups:

Jennings/Billups/Siva/Bynum
KCP/Stuckey/Singler
Singler/Datome/JJ
Smith/Mitchel/JJ/CV
Monroe/Drummond/Harrellson

Jennings/Billups/Siva/Bynum
KCP/Stuckey/Singler
Singler/Datome/JJ
Monroe/Smith/Mitchell
Drummond/Monroe/Harrellson

Jennings/Billups
KCP/Stuckey
Datome/Singler
Smith/Mitchell/CV
Drummond/Monroe/Harrellson

After Trade*
Jennings/Billups
AA/KCP
Leonard/Singler
Smith/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrellson

[Piston Pete]

Leonard is not worth Monroe. What other asset(s) would they be willing to include to get Monroe?

[Clarity]

We arent trading Monroe, hes our best player. Teams dont trade their best player unless they have to.

[Mr. Krabs]

Leonard is not worth Monroe. What other asset(s) would they be willing to include to get Monroe?

Make them trade their 2014 first rounder and Patty Mills to Philly along with Stuckey and Singler. We get Turner and Kawhi.

Jennings/Bynum
Turner/KCP
Kawhi/Datome
Smith/Mitchell
Drummond/Harrellson

Overall talent is much lower but might work better together who knows. BTW, I am against trading Monroe.

[MrBigShot]

No. Monroe is our best player. Better than Smith, better than Jennings, and yes better than Drummond. We aren't going to trade him for a role player.

[DetroitDon15]

If Portland offered Nic Batum, Meyers Leonard, 2 future first round picks, Thomas Robinson (filler) for Monroe, Singler, Stuckey, and Jerebko, I am listening for sure.

[Q00]

I don't understand this obsession with trading Monroe. He's been our best/most consistent player this year. Unless we are going to get back another player who would become our new best player, I simply don't see how trading your best player for a lesser player makes your team better. It just doesn't make any sense.

Would Portland trade Aldridge for one of our role players? Of course not. So why would the Pistons trade Monroe for one of theirs?

If you decide that this frontcourt just will not work and are determined to find a different SF, then you trade the 28 yr old Smith for another SF. Not the 24 or 20 yr old Monroe and Drummond.

Unless there has been some indication that Drummond and Smith fit together better than Drummond and Monroe (which there has been none thus far) then you don't trade Monroe for a lesser SF.

Monroe and Drummond play great together up front and have a long future together. If the Smith experiment proves to not work, then you don't compound the error by trading away your future, giving away your best assets for roles players, just for 3-4 years of Smith in his prime. If it truly proves to not work, then you trade Smith, plain and simple.

Talk of trading anyone right now is absolutely ridiculous, but talk of trading our best player for lesser players, even more so.

Not to mention, we are leading the league in points in the paint. So something is clearly working with this frontcourt. Conversely we are one of the worst teams at defending the perimeter though, which is what can happen when you play 3 bigs together. So if that poor perimeter defense never changes, and its found to be the cause of us losing a lot of games, then the Pistons need to determine is what is more important, having size or having perimeter defense, and then make changes accordingly. But right now is way too early to be talking trades. They have perimeter defenders on the roster, if its just a matter of big vs small, then they can just go small with the players they have, before having to make drastic trades

[DBC10]

I don't understand this obsession with trading Monroe. He's been our best/most consistent player this year. Unless we are going to get back another player who would become our new best player, I simply don't see how trading your best player for a lesser player makes your team better. It just doesn't make any sense.

Would Portland trade Aldridge for one of our role players? Of course not. So why would the Pistons trade Monroe for one of theirs?

If you decide that this frontcourt just will not work and are determined to find a different SF, then you trade the 28 yr old Smith for another SF. Not the 24 or 20 yr old Monroe and Drummond.

Unless there has been some indication that Drummond and Smith fit together better than Drummond and Monroe (which there has been none thus far) then you don't trade Monroe for a lesser SF.

Monroe and Drummond play great together up front. If the Smith experiment proves to not work, then you don't compound the error by making further damage to this roster, giving away your best assets for roles players. You simply trade Smith.

Talk of trading anyone right now is absolutely ridiculous, but talk of trading our best player for lesser players, even more so.

Amen. You don't trade a big cookie for pieces of candy of the same worth.

I would trade Smith over Monroe in a heartbeat. Having a Drummond/Monroe frontcourt can potentially provide better and more dividends than having a Smith/Drummond future.

[ComboGuardCity]

Monroe can hit the J now. Why trade him.


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[Q00]

I don't understand this obsession with trading Monroe. He's been our best/most consistent player this year. Unless we are going to get back another player who would become our new best player, I simply don't see how trading your best player for a lesser player makes your team better. It just doesn't make any sense.

Would Portland trade Aldridge for one of our role players? Of course not. So why would the Pistons trade Monroe for one of theirs?

If you decide that this frontcourt just will not work and are determined to find a different SF, then you trade the 28 yr old Smith for another SF. Not the 24 or 20 yr old Monroe and Drummond.

Unless there has been some indication that Drummond and Smith fit together better than Drummond and Monroe (which there has been none thus far) then you don't trade Monroe for a lesser SF.

Monroe and Drummond play great together up front. If the Smith experiment proves to not work, then you don't compound the error by making further damage to this roster, giving away your best assets for roles players. You simply trade Smith.

Talk of trading anyone right now is absolutely ridiculous, but talk of trading our best player for lesser players, even more so.

Amen. You don't trade a big cookie for pieces of candy of the same worth.

I would trade Smith over Monroe in a heartbeat. Having a Drummond/Monroe frontcourt can potentially provide better and more dividends than having a Smith/Drummond future.

I mean, just the age factor alone makes it a very easy decision as to who to trade (if one had to be dealt).

I wouldn't trade any of them right now though. Leading the league in points in the paint means something. They have other aspects to work on still, but its way too early to conclude that they cannot improve in those other aspects.

One thing people need to keep in mind, while losing regular season games to jumpshooting teams, is that playoff games are won in the paint. This team is built for the playoffs. So they may not look good right now against these jumpshot-happy regular season teams raining 3's everywhere. But in a 7 game series those jumpshots stop going in, and the team that can score consistently in the paint usually wins. So when you have the best team in the league in the paint, you don't necessarily want to change that just to win a few extra reg season games.