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I end it.

I thought it was just our team getting used to each other but it looks like we just have a penchant for finding new ways to assemble poor teams.

I'm sorry Joe, its time

Agreed. I've lost all patience with this team. I can only be optimistic for so long.

DetroitPistons wrote:Agreed. I've lost all patience with this team. I can only be optimistic for so long.

If were being honest, you were patient for 2 preseason games lol

wire28 wrote:I end it.

I thought it was just our team getting used to each other but it looks like we just have a penchant for finding new ways to assemble poor teams.

I'm sorry Joe, its time

But what is it time for?

Another 15-20 games with this roster will gain us wins we dont need if we are tanking and will only drive down the value of our players and the desperation of our situation.

We need to trade our assets while we still look like we could compete for a playoff spot

No decent headcoach will come to Detroit until Dumars is gone.

I keep hoping that we can turn it around and then we have a game like this. We need some big changes in the offseason and joe dumars has to go.

Clarity wrote:

DetroitPistons wrote:Agreed. I've lost all patience with this team. I can only be optimistic for so long.

If were being honest, you were patient for 2 preseason games lol

sigh lol i was willing to give the team until Jan out of the goodness of my heart but honestly you only need these games to see cheeks is an idiot, josh is an idiot, bj is an idiot and joey d, bless his heart , is an idiot

we have talented players but they dont have the IQ to stop doing what they are bad at and become a good team. the coach isnt helping either

Clarity wrote:

DetroitPistons wrote:Agreed. I've lost all patience with this team. I can only be optimistic for so long.

If were being honest, you were patient for 2 preseason games lol

More like 3 years and 2 preseason games... Heck, I went into the 2012 season wanting to tank right off the bat. I've watched this sad excuse for a rebuild from the beginning. I'm sick of this crap. It's like everything Dumars does is a mistake. Enough is enough.

I get fired from the Pistons in MyGM mode in 2k14 today. Something tells me Joe D will follow suit if something doesn't happen soon.

MrBigShot wrote:I get fired from the Pistons in MyGM mode in 2k14 today. Something tells me Joe D will follow suit if something doesn't happen soon.

I'm willing to bet Dumars gets to play out the rest of the season because he only has one year left on his deal. He still needs to go. The team needs a culture change.

So the evaluation of Dumars is based on hindsight? A few months ago almost everyone was praising him for the same things they blame him for now.

Also, it is pretty certain some substantial trades are incoming this season.

qm22 wrote:So the evaluation of Dumars is based on hindsight? A few months ago almost everyone was praising him for the same things they blame him for now.

Just because they were delusional doesn't mean Dumars isn't horrible. He was then and he is now.

DetroitPistons wrote:
More like 3 years and 2 preseason games... Heck, I went into the 2012 season wanting to tank right off the bat. I've watched this sad excuse for a rebuild from the beginning. I'm sick of this crap. It's like everything Dumars does is a mistake. Enough is enough.

Monroe wasnt a mistake, Drummond wasnt a mistake.

3 years is irrelevant, has nothing to do with this team now. You gave up on this new team 2 preseason games in & have been whining non stop during & after every loss. (shockingly youre always MIA after a win lol)

I dont remember you in the Summer & what you thought about the Jennings/Josh signings but ill take a wild guess lol

wire28 wrote:sigh lol i was willing to give the team until Jan out of the goodness of my heart but honestly you only need these games to see cheeks is an idiot, josh is an idiot, bj is an idiot and joey d, bless his heart , is an idiot

we have talented players but they dont have the IQ to stop doing what they are bad at and become a good team. the coach isnt helping either

Cheeks has little to do with this, he isnt a magician.

Kyrama wrote:

qm22 wrote:So the evaluation of Dumars is based on hindsight? A few months ago almost everyone was praising him for the same things they blame him for now.

Just because they were delusional doesn't mean Dumars isn't horrible. He was then and he is now.

i once was blind (blinded by 2004) but now i see

qm22 wrote:So the evaluation of Dumars is based on hindsight? A few months ago almost everyone was praising him for the same things they blame him for now.

Also, it is pretty certain some substantial trades are incoming this season.

a few months ago certain individuals were praising him. Lets be clear.

This whole Josh/Jennings thing was easy to see, but some "fans" were so desperate for any hope..

Clarity wrote:Cheeks has little to do with this, he isnt a magician.

This this this this. Can we please hold the right guy accountable for once? Just this once? Then we can blame the coaching after just several weeks again.

maybe we replace him with billups?

Kyrama wrote:This this this this. Can we please hold the right guy accountable for once? Just this once? Then we can blame the coaching after just several weeks again.

Joe gets beat on unfairly for a ton of stuff but his ability to differentiate Drummond potential with a guy that can jump high so to speak is awful, thats not debatable.

I think this $hit is even worse than Gordon/Villanueva fiasco

GET THE Fu<K out DUMARS