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Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:47 pm
by DCintheD
simple trade, addresses needs for both sides
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:45 am
by Joe Berry
why would the Wizards give up their starting SF, best defender, best 3pt shooter for a backup PG/SG?
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:52 am
by Clarity
Joe Asberry wrote:why would the Wizards give up their starting SF, best defender, best 3pt shooter for a backup PG/SG?
they wouldnt obviously.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:02 am
by Timmaytime
Joe Asberry wrote:why would the Wizards give up their starting SF, best defender, best 3pt shooter for a backup PG/SG?
Maybe if Otto Porter was coming along better. Beal and Wall have gotten alot of burn, Webster isn't a two, and Maynor has had a terrible year. They need guard depth badly, but Porters slow development limits that
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:36 am
by jakebernat
stuckey's a better pure scorer and player with the ball in his hands. he can also play PG in spurts. ariza's a better shooter and overall defender. I don't think washington does this deal, but i think it's much closer to fair than people think
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Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:27 am
by Neptune
DCintheD wrote:simple trade, addresses needs for both sides
Talent wise, it's a good trade. But I doubt the Wizards would do it. They've been playing good basketball lately, why mess with chemistry in the starting line-up.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:52 am
by DCintheD
throw in Singler and throw back Vesely maybe a 2nd, I dunno, u guys make a good point they probly wouldnt wanna mess with what they got
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:33 pm
by princeofpalace
I've been proposing this trade for months now.
It works, while Washington is starting Ariza- they have Martell Webster- who is a better shooter than Ariza and Otto Porter waiting in the wings. What Washington really needs is a stretch 4 or a 3rd guard so i think something based around Ariza/Stuck could work.
That being said, I think the more likely scenario is for us to just make a play for Ariza in FA, he's the perfect fit for this team,
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:08 pm
by dVs33
I'd rather use lesser parts (CV, Bynum, Jonas etc) to get Webster, than trading stuckey for Ariza.
Stuckey has been the most consistent guard we have this year. If stuckey goes, then Bynum gets more burn and i don't want to see that.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:51 pm
by Damon_3388
Timmaytime wrote:Joe Asberry wrote:why would the Wizards give up their starting SF, best defender, best 3pt shooter for a backup PG/SG?
Maybe if Otto Porter was coming along better. Beal and Wall have gotten alot of burn, Webster isn't a two, and Maynor has had a terrible year. They need guard depth badly, but Porters slow development limits that
20 year old not getting playing time behind veterans and still taking time to adjust to NBA half way through his first NBA season, after being injured for the first couple of months of the year = "slow development".
OK.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:39 pm
by pistontr
and classic question. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:52 pm
by piston1423
I rather just sign Ariza to a contract in the off season. I hope someone like the Thunder or Portland pick up Stuckey honestly.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:48 pm
by Timmaytime
Damon_3388 wrote:Timmaytime wrote:Joe Asberry wrote:why would the Wizards give up their starting SF, best defender, best 3pt shooter for a backup PG/SG?
Maybe if Otto Porter was coming along better. Beal and Wall have gotten alot of burn, Webster isn't a two, and Maynor has had a terrible year. They need guard depth badly, but Porters slow development limits that
20 year old not getting playing time behind veterans and still taking time to adjust to NBA half way through his first NBA season, after being injured for the first couple of months of the year = "slow development".
OK.
In the same way KCP is a "slow development"... Wiz are a playoff team, they can't afford to be playing Otto Porter starters minutes if they want to win games. If he was further along they could do this
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:50 pm
by sc8581
Timmaytime wrote:Damon_3388 wrote:Timmaytime wrote:
Maybe if Otto Porter was coming along better. Beal and Wall have gotten alot of burn, Webster isn't a two, and Maynor has had a terrible year. They need guard depth badly, but Porters slow development limits that
20 year old not getting playing time behind veterans and still taking time to adjust to NBA half way through his first NBA season, after being injured for the first couple of months of the year = "slow development".
OK.
In the same way KCP is a "slow development"... Wiz are a playoff team, they can't afford to be playing Otto Porter starters minutes if they want to win games. If he was further along they could do this
KCP is developing slowly but Porter has just been god awful.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:53 pm
by ImHeisenberg
sc8581 wrote:KCP is developing slowly but Porter has just been god awful.
He definitely fell behind with that hip injury that carried through a lot of the early season. I hate writing young players off too quickly, but I'm not jealous of Washington in regards to that pick.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:16 pm
by sc8581
ImHeisenberg wrote:sc8581 wrote:KCP is developing slowly but Porter has just been god awful.
He definitely fell behind with that hip injury that carried through a lot of the early season. I hate writing young players off too quickly, but I'm not jealous of Washington in regards to that pick.
I'm certainly not writing him off, even if he just finds a role he's really good at in the future I wouldn't consider him a bust or anything especially in this draft class. What's funny is I think his 2 best games were against us lol.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:23 pm
by Laimbeer
ImHeisenberg wrote:sc8581 wrote:KCP is developing slowly but Porter has just been god awful.
He definitely fell behind with that hip injury that carried through a lot of the early season. I hate writing young players off too quickly, but I'm not jealous of Washington in regards to that pick.
Any chance they'd consider Porter for KCP?
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:04 pm
by The Penguin
Stuckey, Singler, Mitchell
For
Porter, Webster
Wiz add Stuckey as their 3rd guard and add two young players while clearing out extra cap space this summer.
We add Porter as our SF of the future and Webster to give us a shooter.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:10 am
by ImHeisenberg
Laimbeer wrote:ImHeisenberg wrote:sc8581 wrote:KCP is developing slowly but Porter has just been god awful.
He definitely fell behind with that hip injury that carried through a lot of the early season. I hate writing young players off too quickly, but I'm not jealous of Washington in regards to that pick.
Any chance they'd consider Porter for KCP?
Probably not, with Beal and Webster signed long term.
Re: Stuckey for Ariza
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:36 am
by DetroitDon15
Piston Prince wrote:Stuckey, Singler, Mitchell
For
Porter, Webster
Wiz add Stuckey as their 3rd guard and add two young players while clearing out extra cap space this summer.
We add Porter as our SF of the future and Webster to give us a shooter.
Id pass. Swap Singler for Datome than it works.
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