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My sense is Jennings goes better with Smith at the four than he does with Monroe at the four (I'm assuming either Smith or Monroe will be gone this offseason.) It follows that we'd be less likely to move Jennings if Smith is the one we end up keeping.

Agree?

I think Jennings is a big part of the problem. At this point I'd like to move all three of them , and build around Drummond, KCP ,Singler and Mitchell.

Who cares who Jennings fits with. He's a below average player right now.

Defor wrote:I think Jennings is a big part of the problem. At this point I'd like to move all three of them , and build around Drummond, KCP ,Singler and Mitchell.

This is my plan B. Plan A is to trade Smith and resign Monroe and build around the twin towers.

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He fits better with the Bucks

Smith is arguably a better 4 than Monroe. However, I'd prefer not to have two inefficient players on the court at the same time. Also, the bricks these guys lay just inflate the hell out of Drummond's offensive rebound percentage. I'm sure his agent isn't complaining at all.

Here's Jennings #1 problem. He CANNOT drive. He's able to, but he's afraid. He can't finish. Because of that, I don't think anyone is going to fall for his drive which takes away the pass or the lob. That's why Bynum is able to get Drummond the ball and Jennings can't. If Brandon doesn't develop his driving game, he will not develop into an above average PG. I think that's the most important feature that he's missing from his game and from going into the All-Star game. His shot is unorthodox and will never be consistent because it's not a consistent routine. So he must gain the inside game to develop into a better PG. He can do this. He just needs to work on it.

Spider156 wrote:Here's Jennings #1 problem. He CANNOT drive. He's able to, but he's afraid. He can't finish. Because of that, I don't think anyone is going to fall for his drive which takes away the pass or the lob. That's why Bynum is able to get Drummond the ball and Jennings can't. If Brandon doesn't develop his driving game, he will not develop into an above average PG. I think that's the most important feature that he's missing from his game and from going into the All-Star game. His shot is unorthodox and will never be consistent because it's not a consistent routine. So he must gain the inside game to develop into a better PG. He can do this. He just needs to work on it.

I don't think he's able to drive even. I think he's made a living off of a step back jumper. The kid is not fast, Not even fast enough to get around slow people like pekovic lol.

it literally blows my mind how much jennings loves that step back jumper. i mean, i even saw him use a pick once, keep his man on his hip/back, wait for his man to recover and get back in front of him, THEN he decided to shoot a step back. seriously, who does that??? jennings is a mental midget, plain and simple

I could see them keeping all 3 bigs together but just changing PGs. Maybe sending Jennings + our lotto pick for Rondo. Then re-signing Monroe and bringing either him or Smith off the bench. Sign a SF with the money leftover. Keep Singler at SG and that be your starting 5.

Its weird how Jennings went from entrenched in the starting lineup under Cheeks, while Bynum rarely played, to now Jennings getting benched in favor of Bynum under Loyer. It makes me wonder if that PG dynamic had anything to do with the coaching change. Not that they did it just because of Bynum or Jennings, but maybe the front office has been unhappy with Jennings, plus wanted to see more of the Dre/Bynum pick/roll being used, but Cheeks refused or something and they had enough of him.

Whatever the case, the last few games indicate that the team is now less committed to Jennings as their PG than they were before, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them go in another direction in the offseason. Jennings should be easily tradeable. Because of that favorable contract and his scoring/passing ability, he could appeal to almost every team in some fashion. Be it a scorer off the bench for a contender, or maybe a team like the Knicks looking to upgrade their starting PG position with a better playmaker. My guess would be if any of the main guys are traded, he would probably be the first they look to change.

jakebernat wrote:it literally blows my mind how much jennings loves that step back jumper. i mean, i even saw him use a pick once, keep his man on his hip/back, wait for his man to recover and get back in front of him, THEN he decided to shoot a step back. seriously, who does that??? jennings is a mental midget, plain and simple

he does that because he's to scared to drive.

He has the speed to beat most defenders of the dribble, but he's scared of the paint.
He could be 1000x better if he just drove more. He'd score more and he'd get more assists to Dre, Moose and Smith. It's infuriating to watch.

Rondo is not worth a top 8 lotto pick.

ComboGuardCity wrote:Who cares who Jennings fits with. He's a below average player right now.

/thread....

Jennings/Smith should have absolutely no bearing on who we look to trade for or draft while they are here. It doesn't matter to me who they fit with. I've given up the hope that either of them will finally get "it".

ComboGuardCity wrote:Rondo is not worth a top 8 lotto pick.

I think he is...

Top 4? no, but after those first 4 stars are off the board and we are choosing between guys like Smart, Gary Harris, and Rodney Hood...Rondo is without a doubt worth way more than those guys in my opinion.

It would have to come with an agreement from Rondo to sign an extension upon completing the trade. I wouldn't trade the pick just for an expiring contract, but if he would sign an extension then I'd much rather have him than those other guys.

I'd try to get Westbrook from OKC though first with that pick + Monroe or something.

ComboGuardCity wrote:Who cares who Jennings fits with. He's a below average player right now.

This & he ignores Drummond so that immediately makes him part of the problem even if he could actually shoot or play defense at all.

Q00 wrote:I could see them keeping all 3 bigs together but just changing PGs. Maybe sending Jennings + our lotto pick for Rondo. Then re-signing Monroe and bringing either him or Smith off the bench. Sign a SF with the money leftover. Keep Singler at SG and that be your starting 5.

Its weird how Jennings went from entrenched in the starting lineup under Cheeks, while Bynum rarely played, to now Jennings getting benched in favor of Bynum under Loyer. It makes me wonder if that PG dynamic had anything to do with the coaching change. Not that they did it just because of Bynum or Jennings, but maybe the front office has been unhappy with Jennings, plus wanted to see more of the Dre/Bynum pick/roll being used, but Cheeks refused or something and they had enough of him.

Whatever the case, the last few games indicate that the team is now less committed to Jennings as their PG than they were before, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them go in another direction in the offseason. Jennings should be easily tradeable. Because of that favorable contract and his scoring/passing ability, he could appeal to almost every team in some fashion. Be it a scorer off the bench for a contender, or maybe a team like the Knicks looking to upgrade their starting PG position with a better playmaker. My guess would be if any of the main guys are traded, he would probably be the first they look to change.

I dont know why we would do this

Yeah rondo's 3 tiers better decision making wise but this trade shrinks the floor even more and our FT shooting gets worse.

In the current NBA you cant compete for a title if you dont have two competent 3 point shooters.

Jennings like it or not is one. Rondo isnt. Of course if we could send monroe or smith out for a stretch 4 along with this deal it might work very well

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Clarity wrote:

ComboGuardCity wrote:Who cares who Jennings fits with. He's a below average player right now.

This & he ignores Drummond so that immediately makes him part of the problem even if he could actually shoot or play defense at all.

I agree with you, Clarity, but let me play devil's advocate — isn't it the COACH'S job to dictate how the offense runs? And if any player ignores his plan, isn't it the coach's responsibility to ether get him in line or else yank him?

I'm not excusing Jennings (or Smith, for that matter) for their penchant to jack bad shots. However, if Drummond (and to a lesser extent Monroe) is ignored on offense, shouldn't the coach scream, "Hey you morons, get the ball in low to our bigs!" and then give the hook to anyone who ignores HIM?

My only hope is that Smith and Jennings fit out the exit without the door hitting their a$$.

DocRI wrote:

Clarity wrote:

ComboGuardCity wrote:Who cares who Jennings fits with. He's a below average player right now.

This & he ignores Drummond so that immediately makes him part of the problem even if he could actually shoot or play defense at all.

I agree with you, Clarity, but let me play devil's advocate — isn't it the COACH'S job to dictate how the offense runs? And if any player ignores his plan, isn't it the coach's responsibility to ether get him in line or else yank him?

I'm not excusing Jennings (or Smith, for that matter) for their penchant to jack bad shots. However, if Drummond (and to a lesser extent Monroe) is ignored on offense, shouldn't the coach scream, "Hey you morons, get the ball in low to our bigs!" and then give the hook to anyone who ignores HIM?

Look what happened the last time a coach stood up against the chucking and ignoring the twin towers, Cheeks was canned. Multiple reports of Smith and Cheeks obviously not getting along and even shouting matches and chairs being thrown and it has to be with Cheek's displeasure of Smith on his play style and attitude. Jennings surprisingly liked Cheeks which was interesting via his tweet post when Cheeks was fired.

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RSCD3_ wrote:

Q00 wrote:I could see them keeping all 3 bigs together but just changing PGs. Maybe sending Jennings + our lotto pick for Rondo. Then re-signing Monroe and bringing either him or Smith off the bench. Sign a SF with the money leftover. Keep Singler at SG and that be your starting 5.

Its weird how Jennings went from entrenched in the starting lineup under Cheeks, while Bynum rarely played, to now Jennings getting benched in favor of Bynum under Loyer. It makes me wonder if that PG dynamic had anything to do with the coaching change. Not that they did it just because of Bynum or Jennings, but maybe the front office has been unhappy with Jennings, plus wanted to see more of the Dre/Bynum pick/roll being used, but Cheeks refused or something and they had enough of him.

Whatever the case, the last few games indicate that the team is now less committed to Jennings as their PG than they were before, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them go in another direction in the offseason. Jennings should be easily tradeable. Because of that favorable contract and his scoring/passing ability, he could appeal to almost every team in some fashion. Be it a scorer off the bench for a contender, or maybe a team like the Knicks looking to upgrade their starting PG position with a better playmaker. My guess would be if any of the main guys are traded, he would probably be the first they look to change.

I dont know why we would do this

Yeah rondo's 3 tiers better decision making wise but this trade shrinks the floor even more and our FT shooting gets worse.

In the current NBA you cant compete for a title if you dont have two competent 3 point shooters.

Jennings like it or not is one. Rondo isnt. Of course if we could send monroe or smith out for a stretch 4 along with this deal it might work very well

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Is Jennings really that much better of a shooter than Rondo? Neither one can shoot the 3 ball efficiently but the differance is one of them realizes this while the other one doesn't care. Rondo knows not to just chuck shots to hurt his team were Jennings just doesn't give a crap because he seriously thinks Hes MJ or something.

3FGA this season-

Jennings- 324
Durant- 314
Melo- 292
Lebron- 204

Jennings is seriously a cancerous chucker.