Will gores hire a new coach and gm before the draft

aad · Post #1 » by **aad** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:28 am

Even if we dont have a pick we still need a new gm and coach by draft time I hope gores dont drag this out

Do anyone else think this that we have to get rid of one of smith or jennings this offseason I dont think we can bring both back

ComboGuardCity · Post #2 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:49 am

Of course

aad · Post #3 » by **aad** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:09 am

L Hollins
G.Karl
S.Van gundy
T.Izzo

Get one of these coaches and we will already be better next season

ImHeisenberg · Post #4 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:18 am

I'm sure Gores is putting feelers out there for his next GM, if he doesn't have a handshake agreement with somebody already.

As for coach- I've no clue who they may go with. I believe whomever the next GM will be will greatly dictate who the pool of applicants consist of.

Alexander · Post #5 » by **Alexander** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:41 am

Tom Penn? Former Blazers Assistant GM? Thoughts?

imagump1313 · Post #6 » by **imagump1313** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:45 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:I'm sure Gores is putting feelers out there for his next GM, if he doesn't have a handshake agreement with somebody already.

As for coach- I've no clue who they may go with. I believe whomever the next GM will be will greatly dictate who the pool of applicants consist of.

I hope he's putting feelers out for potential buyers of the team........

Q00 · Post #7 » by **Q00** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:49 pm

My guess is Izzo will be the next coach and it would make sense to have him in place for the draft. If that's who Gores wants and Izzo agrees, there would be no reason for a long drawn out interview process.

Ever since rumors came out that he could be going to the NBA, the Spartans have played some uncharacteristically unfocused basketball. Leading me to believe Izzo may already have his bags packed for Auburn Hills.

Its also possible he could make Izzo the President/GM/Coach all of the above and give him full control, as a way to lure him here, and then we'd be all set all in one.

He doesn't have any NBA executive experience obviusly but being a college coach is essentially being a GM & HC all in one anyways, so its not like he doesn't know how to build a team and recruit/scout.

That's something I could really see happening. Just coming to be coach might not be enough to attract him, but offering him full power of an NBA franchise might be too much to turn down. I'd be cool with Izzo running the Pistons with some experienced vice presidents/asst GMs around him.

ImHeisenberg · Post #8 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:57 pm

imagump1313 wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:I'm sure Gores is putting feelers out there for his next GM, if he doesn't have a handshake agreement with somebody already.

As for coach- I've no clue who they may go with. I believe whomever the next GM will be will greatly dictate who the pool of applicants consist of.

I hope he's putting feelers out for potential buyers of the team........

This is likely inevitable. If I were a betting man, I'd wager he's targeting some time after the next CBA is in place- that will likely make the teams even more profitable for the owners, and then begin to execute his exit strategy.

DBC10 · Post #9 » by **DBC10** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:09 pm

Well, PJax is out.
So is cancer, I mean Thomas.
Pritchard seems obtainable which I like for his talent evaluation and wittiness.

I'd love to have someone who has a smart background and uses analytics as an extra edge. Which Ainge and other successful new GMs have done. We don't need another former player/old boy nonsense. We're a terrible team needing a new and refreshing view of the team, not someone stuck in Nostalgia.

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jaredtyshaf · Post #10 » by **jaredtyshaf** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:40 pm

Q00 wrote:My guess is Izzo will be the next coach and it would make sense to have him in place for the draft. If that's who Gores wants and Izzo agrees, there would be no reason for a long drawn out interview process.

Ever since rumors came out that he could be going to the NBA, the Spartans have played some uncharacteristically unfocused basketball. Leading me to believe Izzo may already have his bags packed for Auburn Hills.

Its also possible he could make Izzo the President/GM/Coach all of the above and give him full control, as a way to lure him here, and then we'd be all set all in one.

He doesn't have any NBA executive experience obviusly but being a college coach is essentially being a GM & HC all in one anyways, so its not like he doesn't know how to build a team and recruit/scout.

That's something I could really see happening. Just coming to be coach might not be enough to attract him, but offering him full power of an NBA franchise might be too much to turn down. I'd be cool with Izzo running the Pistons with some experienced vice presidents/asst GMs around him.

No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

DBC10 · Post #11 » by **DBC10** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:49 pm

jaredtyshaf wrote:
Q00 wrote:My guess is Izzo will be the next coach and it would make sense to have him in place for the draft. If that's who Gores wants and Izzo agrees, there would be no reason for a long drawn out interview process.

Ever since rumors came out that he could be going to the NBA, the Spartans have played some uncharacteristically unfocused basketball. Leading me to believe Izzo may already have his bags packed for Auburn Hills.

Its also possible he could make Izzo the President/GM/Coach all of the above and give him full control, as a way to lure him here, and then we'd be all set all in one.

He doesn't have any NBA executive experience obviusly but being a college coach is essentially being a GM & HC all in one anyways, so its not like he doesn't know how to build a team and recruit/scout.

That's something I could really see happening. Just coming to be coach might not be enough to attract him, but offering him full power of an NBA franchise might be too much to turn down. I'd be cool with Izzo running the Pistons with some experienced vice presidents/asst GMs around him.

No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

Yeah at best Izzo just takes the coaching job and that's it. Gores will likely go with somebody within some established FO presence instead of just doing a straight hire of somebody not having any semblance of FO experience.

Watch for a lot of interviews this summer.

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Clarity · Post #12 » by **Clarity** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:58 pm

DBC10 wrote:Pritchard seems obtainable which I like for his talent evaluation and wittiness.

This is the best hire out there for our needs.

DBC10 · Post #13 » by **DBC10** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:06 pm

Clarity wrote:
DBC10 wrote:Pritchard seems obtainable which I like for his talent evaluation and wittiness.

This is the best hire out there for our needs.

Keep in mind, its still going to take a miracle to save this roster no matter who the GM is. It's just that since we'll likely go on a rebuild after this season, I like my chances with Pritchard to build around Dre more than others.

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Kilo · Post #14 » by **Kilo** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:50 pm

Izzo wouldn't come in without knowing the GM - he and Joe know each other pretty well. So if it was Izzo I'd bet that Joe would be staying on. And Izzo isn't going to come in to coach knuckleheads like Jennings and Smith.

Post #15 » by **theBigLip** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:53 pm

My thoughts:

We will hire a new GM almost immediately after our last game.

The GM will be the one to hire the new coach. It will not be Izzo. Gores will want someone with NBA experience.

GM will be busy before the draft because we will get a top 3 pick - ok, this isn't a true thought, just a dream :-)

We trade both Jennings and Smith and draft Jabari Parker.

Q00 · Post #16 » by **Q00** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:57 pm

jaredtyshaf wrote:
Q00 wrote:My guess is Izzo will be the next coach and it would make sense to have him in place for the draft. If that's who Gores wants and Izzo agrees, there would be no reason for a long drawn out interview process.

Ever since rumors came out that he could be going to the NBA, the Spartans have played some uncharacteristically unfocused basketball. Leading me to believe Izzo may already have his bags packed for Auburn Hills.

Its also possible he could make Izzo the President/GM/Coach all of the above and give him full control, as a way to lure him here, and then we'd be all set all in one.

He doesn't have any NBA executive experience obviusly but being a college coach is essentially being a GM & HC all in one anyways, so its not like he doesn't know how to build a team and recruit/scout.

That's something I could really see happening. Just coming to be coach might not be enough to attract him, but offering him full power of an NBA franchise might be too much to turn down. I'd be cool with Izzo running the Pistons with some experienced vice presidents/asst GMs around him.

No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

Thanks for clearing that up. Now that jaredtyshaf has confirmed, I know for a fact that Izzo will not get full control.

Post #17 » by **theBigLip** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:01 pm

Q00 wrote:
jaredtyshaf wrote:
Q00 wrote:My guess is Izzo will be the next coach and it would make sense to have him in place for the draft. If that's who Gores wants and Izzo agrees, there would be no reason for a long drawn out interview process.

Ever since rumors came out that he could be going to the NBA, the Spartans have played some uncharacteristically unfocused basketball. Leading me to believe Izzo may already have his bags packed for Auburn Hills.

Its also possible he could make Izzo the President/GM/Coach all of the above and give him full control, as a way to lure him here, and then we'd be all set all in one.

He doesn't have any NBA executive experience obviusly but being a college coach is essentially being a GM & HC all in one anyways, so its not like he doesn't know how to build a team and recruit/scout.

That's something I could really see happening. Just coming to be coach might not be enough to attract him, but offering him full power of an NBA franchise might be too much to turn down. I'd be cool with Izzo running the Pistons with some experienced vice presidents/asst GMs around him.

No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

Thanks for clearing that up. Now that jaredtyshaf has confirmed, I know for a fact that Izzo will not get full control.

We don't have to be so sarcastic, especially since I agree with jaredtyshaf :-)

Seriously, I know we have a lot of Sparty fans on this board, and Izzo is a great college coach, but that doesn't guarantee success in the NBA. Gores can't be happy how this year turned out. And you really think he would want to take a chance on a college coach to straighten out this lockerroom of players with questionable desire?

Redeemed · Post #18 » by **Redeemed** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:14 pm

theBigLip wrote:My thoughts:

We will hire a new GM almost immediately after our last game.

The GM will be the one to hire the new coach. It will not be Izzo. Gores will want someone with NBA experience.

GM will be busy before the draft because we will get a top 3 pick - ok, this isn't a true thought, just a dream

We trade both Jennings and Smith and draft Jabari Parker.

Awesome dream! I would love to see us pull the trigger fast on getting a our replacement folks in place (GM & coach). And any scenario where can add Jabari Parker is just beautiful.

MrBigShot · Post #19 » by **MrBigShot** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:48 pm

Q00 wrote:
jaredtyshaf wrote:
No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

Thanks for clearing that up. Now that jaredtyshaf has confirmed, I know for a fact that Izzo will not get full control.

He's 100% right. No NBA coaching, and no experience as apart of an NBA FO. That's way too much responsibility for a guy with no experience at that level. Doc Rivers was indeed made a vice president of basketball operations and coach, but he's a proven championship coach. Izzo is not.

We need to hire different people to handle the roles of GM/Coach.

Q00 · Post #20 » by **Q00** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:51 pm

theBigLip wrote:
Q00 wrote:
jaredtyshaf wrote:
No chance Izzo comes in and gets full control. At most he will have complete control of the team philosophy and rotation. He has zero experience evaluating NBA talent and courting professional athletes in FA.

Thanks for clearing that up. Now that jaredtyshaf has confirmed, I know for a fact that Izzo will not get full control.

We don't have to be so sarcastic, especially since I agree with jaredtyshaf

Seriously, I know we have a lot of Sparty fans on this board, and Izzo is a great college coach, but that doesn't guarantee success in the NBA. Gores can't be happy how this year turned out. And you really think he would want to take a chance on a college coach to straighten out this lockerroom of players with questionable desire?

lol we also don't have to speak in absolutes, saying no chance of something happening, when we don't know any more than the next poster about the situation.

I'm not a Spartans fan for what its worth. I don't have any preference towards Izzo coaching here or staying, so I'm just going off of those SAS reports that said Gores is interested in him. Add to the fact that the only other top candidate, Hollins, was begging for the job and didn't even get acknowledged by Gores, says to me he's waiting for someone else he already has in mind who he thinks is better than Hollins. But who could that be? There really is no one else. The only other coach that could be better would be Izzo.

Then when you start to think about what it would take to get Izzo to come here, some sort of control over personnel decisions is probably something he would demand, in my opinion. So if Gores really wants him, I could see a scenario where he is forced to give him full control to make it happen, or at least some power over personnel.