How likely these Pistons will be back next year?

[Laimbeer]

Not what you want, but what you think happens. What chance each comes back?

Drummond 95%
Monroe 80%
Smith 60%
Stuckey 50%
Singler 85%
KCP 85%
Bynum 75%
Jennings 75%

[ComboGuardCity]

Drummond 99%...unless he goes off the deep end and pulls a Ricky Williams
KCP 95%...he's on his 2nd year. No way new management throws him in any deal.
Singler 90%...He'll be back barring being thrown in in a Josh Sweetner deal
Bynum 75%...Not expiring and not all that valuable around the league. He'll probably be back
Monroe 70%...Depends on if the new front office wants roll with the twin towers or use that cap space elsewhere and our draft pick.
Jennings 50%...depends on our draft pick and Bledsoe/Lowry.
Smith 30%...Depends on Monroe.
Stuckey 10%...I can see him heading west back towards his home. New ownership has no ties to him

[Kilo]

One of Monroe or Smith will be gone - 100%

Jennings being back - 75%. Will bring in a much better back-up option to push him and be able to bench him if point needed to be made with him. Not a bad contract - he could be a bench guard/6th man with Stuckey gone with current contract, or he can shape up and start and earn a big starter contract in a couple of seasons time. I could however see him dealt with Moose for Rondo which is where the 25% chance comes in.

Stuckey - 99% gone. Mutual separation best for all sides.

Drummond will be back 100%.

KCP 85% back. No real value as a throw in - would be selling extremely low. 15% chance he's moved out is as part of a bigger deal where we're bringing in a big time 2-guard and team demands him ie Moose and KCP for all-star 2-guard and rotational bench bigman sort of move.

[Neptune]

Dre-100%
Moose-100%
Jennings-100%
KCP-100%
Singler-80%
Smith-60%
Bynum-50%
Stuckey-0%

[Snakebites]

Drummond- 99.999% - Nothing in the NBA is ever fully certain, but this one is for all practical purposes. The .0001 is there to allow for jedi mind tricks or acts of collective insanity.

Monroe- 65%- I think there is a really good chance someone offers him a shocker deal to scare us off, and there's a legitimate chance it works.

Smith: 85% - Hey, there's always the small chance some moron GM thinks he's worth taking on without taking on too much value alongside him. Hey, I'm an optimist. This is tied with Monroe. If Smith is gone there is a 100% chance Monroe stays.

Jennings: 70%- His contract isn't unmovable, so there's always a shot we'll unload him.

KCP: 95%- He's had a pretty uninspired rookie campaign. Why sell low?

Singler- 95%- I guess he could wind up a filler in some deal. Given we're under the cap we probably won't need fillers in our deals though.

Bynum: 95%- See above. No real reason to move him unless he's a filler of some sort.

Stuckey: 2%- He'll get a small deal as a backup guard on a better team and he'll take it.

[Mr Peanut]

VIllanueva 0%

[DocRI]

Taking this in a different direction …

Mo Cheeks — <0% (already gone)
John Loyer — 0%
Every Assistant Coach Not Named Rasheed Wallace — 0%
Joe Dumars — 5% (but only if he accepts a new role, i.e. he gets "promoted" to some created, powerless position)
Rasheed Wallace — 75% (relationship with Dre makes him the only holdover from the coaching staff)
Chauncey Billups — 90% (assuming he retires and Gores honors the commitment to give him a front office job)

[wallace72]

-Drummond 99 %
-Monroe 70 %
-Smith 70 %
-KCP 85 %
-Jennings 70%
-Stuckey 20%
-Villanueva 0 % stops nba career nobody wants him


Whole new front office & coaching staff with sheed & billups

[Sheedpocalypse]

Not a big chance Smith goes I think. Who's taking that contract?
My gut feeling says Monroe goes before Smith does...

[Minas]

Drummond 100%
Monroe 65%
Smith 75%
Stuckey 4%
Singler 85%
KCP 95%
Bynum 75%
Jennings 70%
CV 0%

[ImHeisenberg]

It's difficult to place odds on anything considering how much change is expected to occur this summer. We could get a new GM that absolutely despises Smith and Jennings and pushes hard to get rid of them this summer. Or, we could have a schmuck who thinks they can work.

Drummond is the only 100% guaranteed returning player next season.

[The Penguin]

I can't believe we are giving $28 million to Smith, Jennings, Bynum and Jerebko next year. The contracts Joe gave guys like Maxiell and Jerebko frequently get brushed under the table when compared to the Ben Gordon and CV31 moves, but I think they are just as bad if not worse. You simply can't give $5 mil per year to guys who won't even play 20 minutes per game.

[wallace72]

I can't believe we are giving $28 million to Smith, Jennings, Bynum and Jerebko next year. The contracts Joe gave guys like Maxiell and Jerebko frequently get brushed under the table when compared to the Ben Gordon and CV31 moves, but I think they are just as bad if not worse. You simply can't give $5 mil per year to guys who won't even play 20 minutes per game.

It's the story off the last decade, we are throwing money away to let
other teams get better. It's about 8 years we give good contracts to
bad players, or players who don't fit here. Get an accountant in the
front office we don't need a GM! Hell we can have a laugh about it,
but that's where it ends. Misery

[BadMofoPimp]

Due to contracts and restrictions, I expect everyone back except CV and Stuckey who will be replaced by some FA SG.

[theBigLip]

Due to contracts and restrictions, I expect everyone back except CV and Stuckey who will be replaced by some FA SG.

This is exactly what I was going to post. We may want big changes, but this isn't fantasy basketball. Stuckey and CV will be gone for sure, but that's all I would expect.

A few things that will impact the odds of anyone else being moved:
- What does Gores tell the new GM the goal for next season is? Is he allowed to do a rebuild?
- Who is the new GM and what is his style?
- What is our draft position and who do we get in the draft?

[jakebernat]

it would be an absolute travesty to not break up the smith/moose/drummond frontcourt. i get that smith has a bad contract, but moving him should be the new GM's #1, #2, & #3 priority.

[The Penguin]

it would be an absolute travesty to not break up the smith/moose/drummond frontcourt. i get that smith has a bad contract, but moving him should be the new GM's #1, #2, & #3 priority.

There's some pros to keeping Smith around:
1) We haven't had a competent coach who understands rotations or lineups that are difficult for the other team to guard.
2) It's decreasingly likely that Drummond/Monroe/Smith all make it through another year healthy like they did this year. One of those guys goes down and it's not the end of the world.
3) The Rondo factor. Smith and Rondo have been displaying PDA all year. Rondo is going to be one of the big FA the summer of '15. Josh could give us an inside track on landing him.
4) If it costs assets to dump him we are woefully thin on any ammunition.


While the Drummond/Monroe/Smith front court has been a disaster, I don't believe that's really a surprise to anyone. It would be nice to have someone who could manage their rotations better to minimize overlap. In theory you could get all 3 sufficient minutes with very minimal time they are all on the court at the same time. I'd like to try that before we just dump him and pay a premium to do so.

[theBigLip]

it would be an absolute travesty to not break up the smith/moose/drummond frontcourt. i get that smith has a bad contract, but moving him should be the new GM's #1, #2, & #3 priority.

There's some pros to keeping Smith around:
1) We haven't had a competent coach who understands rotations or lineups that are difficult for the other team to guard.
2) It's decreasingly likely that Drummond/Monroe/Smith all make it through another year healthy like they did this year. One of those guys goes down and it's not the end of the world.
3) The Rondo factor. Smith and Rondo have been displaying PDA all year. Rondo is going to be one of the big FA the summer of '15. Josh could give us an inside track on landing him.
4) If it costs assets to dump him we are woefully thin on any ammunition.


While the Drummond/Monroe/Smith front court has been a disaster, I don't believe that's really a surprise to anyone. It would be nice to have someone who could manage their rotations better to minimize overlap. In theory you could get all 3 sufficient minutes with very minimal time they are all on the court at the same time. I'd like to try that before we just dump him and pay a premium to do so.

I certainly don't want to give up assets to move Smith. He is a good player, just not a good fit for our roster right now. I always thought he would work with good on a team like the Warriors that can play more up tempo and already has good outside shooting so that Smith could play inside more. He would make a great PF for them as opposed to a crappy SF for us. Smith for David Lee? Sounds good to me, and I bet Lee wouldn't complain about coming off the bench but knowing he would get significant minutes.

[jakebernat]

There's some pros to keeping Smith around:
1) We haven't had a competent coach who understands rotations or lineups that are difficult for the other team to guard.
2) It's decreasingly likely that Drummond/Monroe/Smith all make it through another year healthy like they did this year. One of those guys goes down and it's not the end of the world.
3) The Rondo factor. Smith and Rondo have been displaying PDA all year. Rondo is going to be one of the big FA the summer of '15. Josh could give us an inside track on landing him.
4) If it costs assets to dump him we are woefully thin on any ammunition.


While the Drummond/Monroe/Smith front court has been a disaster, I don't believe that's really a surprise to anyone. It would be nice to have someone who could manage their rotations better to minimize overlap. In theory you could get all 3 sufficient minutes with very minimal time they are all on the court at the same time. I'd like to try that before we just dump him and pay a premium to do so.

you see, that's the main problem imo. we're not fully committed to any plan. we think we can get by with this one-foot-in-the-door BS. the staggered minutes idea is ideal, but do you honestly believe that eventually committing 40+ million to our frontcourt is a good idea? if this team is ever going to be successful, we need to tear down the mess joe made.

[Billl]

I think Gores believed the team underachieved, so I wouldn't be expecting a lot of big moves. He might try to move someone for a better fit, but I can't see him signing off on any trades that either just give away players or included sending extra assets to move players.