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The voter?

George blaha


http://www.nba.com/media/042314-2013-14 ... -Votes.pdf

"Nobody likes Goliath."

Wilt Chamberlain

2nd year players are usually discounted for MIP. It's just generally expected that they will improve.

Except Anthony Davis came in third in the voting overall.

People are stupid -- Dragic definitely deserved to win, but Andre improved quite a bit (if nothing else, lots more minutes without stamina issues) and deserved more votes.

Don't look now...

He was a truly awful team and was generally viewed as a minus defender. I can see why he was passed over.

Dragic was the leader on an over-achieving team, and should have made the all-star team.

I get it. No worries. Maybe it will motivate Drummond this summer?

ImHeisenberg wrote:He was a truly awful team and was generally viewed as a minus defender. I can see why he was passed over.

Dragic was the leader on an over-achieving team, and should have made the all-star team.

I get it. No worries. Maybe it will motivate Drummond this summer?

I agree he doesn't deserve it. I just found it funny that blaha thought he did.

You can always count on Blaha for the homer vote.

tmorgan wrote:Except Anthony Davis came in third in the voting overall.

People are stupid -- Dragic definitely deserved to win, but Andre improved quite a bit (if nothing else, lots more minutes without stamina issues) and deserved more votes.

So you think he should have lost a little closer? I'm not sure what the difference is if you felt the right person won.

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I thought Drummond would get some votes, but you have to love how Dragic came on.. Everybody thought the Suns would be a bottom-5 team and were basically tanking and Dragic stepped up and had an all-star type performance for the season

Did he vote KCP rookie of the year?

Lol blaha

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"Except Anthony Davis came in third in the voting overall."

Yeah, that proves the point. By the numbers - Increases from the prior year

Dragic

+5.6 ppg
-1.5 apg
+0.1 rpg
0.0 bpg
-0.2 spg

Davis

+7.3 ppg
+0.6 apg
+1.8 rpg
+1.0 bpg
+0.1 spg

Dragic had a heck of a year, but Davis improved more in every major statistical category. Across the board, he improved more than dragic, but he still trailed a distant third in "Most improved" voting. Granted, Dragic certainly has a well deserved leg up due to his team success, but it's pretty obvious that 2nd year improvement is heavily discounted in the voting process.

ComboGuardCity wrote:The voter?

George blaha


http://www.nba.com/media/042314-2013-14 ... -Votes.pdf

He should even vote for Dumars as GM off the year

Billl wrote:"Except Anthony Davis came in third in the voting overall."

Yeah, that proves the point. By the numbers - Increases from the prior year

Dragic

+5.6 ppg
-1.5 apg
+0.1 rpg
0.0 bpg
-0.2 spg

Davis

+7.3 ppg
+0.6 apg
+1.8 rpg
+1.0 bpg
+0.1 spg

Dragic had a heck of a year, but Davis improved more in every major statistical category. Across the board, he improved more than dragic, but he still trailed a distant third in "Most improved" voting. Granted, Dragic certainly has a well deserved leg up due to his team success, but it's pretty obvious that 2nd year improvement is heavily discounted in the voting process.

All I said was that Drummond didn't get enough respect for his improvement...

+5.6 ppg
+5.6 rpg (!)

Everything else about even, although he did manage to shoot an even higher percentage and improved his FT% a little bit.

If his D would have been better he would have been in the mix, except it got worse.

I love Drummond and he's going to be a monster, but he needs to drastically improve defensively. he was really bad this season on that end of the court.

Moose10Fan wrote:If his D would have been better he would have been in the mix, except it got worse.

I love Drummond and he's going to be a monster, but he needs to drastically improve defensively. he was really bad this season on that end of the court.

Jennings giving up 452 drives ( most in the nba ) will do that

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RSCD3_ wrote:

Moose10Fan wrote:If his D would have been better he would have been in the mix, except it got worse.

I love Drummond and he's going to be a monster, but he needs to drastically improve defensively. he was really bad this season on that end of the court.

Jennings giving up 452 drives ( most in the nba ) will do that

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Eh Jennings is a big problem, but Dre gets caught sleeping in the paint.

ImHeisenberg wrote:He was a truly awful team and was generally viewed as a minus defender. I can see why he was passed over.

Dragic was the leader on an over-achieving team, and should have made the all-star team.

I get it. No worries. Maybe it will motivate Drummond this summer?

This. Plus lottery picks in their second year should be expected to make a big leap. MIP is so ambiguous.

ImHeisenberg wrote:He was a truly awful team and was generally viewed as a minus defender. I can see why he was passed over.

Dragic was the leader on an over-achieving team, and should have made the all-star team.

I get it. No worries. Maybe it will motivate Drummond this summer?

This. Plus lottery picks in their second year should be expected to make a big leap. MIP is so ambiguous.

Drummond's defense definitely wasn't as good as I expected, but I don't think it's fair to characterize it as "bad". Moose is bad. Jennings is very bad. Andre just isn't particularly "good" yet.