ImageImageImage

Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever?

Moderators: dVs33, Cowology, theBigLip, Snakebites

User avatar
pistontr
Analyst
Posts: 3,010
And1: 275
Joined: Mar 10, 2012

Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#1 » by pistontr » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:07 pm

They are flawless.
Sorry for my poor english
User avatar
ComboGuardCity
RealGM
Posts: 25,973
And1: 4,897
Joined: Jul 10, 2010

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#2 » by ComboGuardCity » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:12 pm

96 Bulls.
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,753
And1: 22,818
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#3 » by MotownMadness » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:13 pm

No but they might be my favorite team besides for the Pistons.
User avatar
RSCD3_
RealGM
Posts: 13,932
And1: 7,342
Joined: Oct 05, 2013
 

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#4 » by RSCD3_ » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:20 pm

They have the best chemistry of every team probably ever

Also they have a great combination of trust and knowing your role

Something we could learn from
I came here to do two things: get lost and slice **** up & I'm all out of directions.

Butler removing rearview mirror in his car as a symbol to never look back

Peja Stojakovic wrote:Jimmy butler, with no regard for human life
Invictus88
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,951
And1: 2,228
Joined: Jun 25, 2013

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#5 » by Invictus88 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:34 pm

MotownMadness wrote:No but they might be my favorite team besides for the Pistons.


Agreed. It's really hard not to respect the way they play together. Just a class organization.


But I don't think they beat some of those great Bulls teams and actually even some of the Pistons teams might give them trouble just due to balance IMO.

Not to discredit their win (because they played fantastic) but Miami didn't play particularly well in the Finals (outside of LeBron). Part of it was most assuredly due to the Spurs defense but Miami's lack of depth was really exposed. Pop did a fantastic job of rotating in players in short shifts to really tire out the Heat.
ImHeisenberg
Head Coach
Posts: 6,465
And1: 2,323
Joined: Apr 01, 2013
 

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#6 » by ImHeisenberg » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:34 pm

Probably not the best in terms of talent depth- even though they likely have 3 hall of fame players. But, it may be the best championship team that truly won and lost as a team. The 04 Pistons were a great team like that, but I doubt they would have been able to beat this Spurs team (besides the fact that they couldn't beat the 05 team).
User avatar
The Penguin
"Beat The Commish" Champion/Mr. Clean Slate
Posts: 7,267
And1: 4,109
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
Location: Columbus
     

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#7 » by The Penguin » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:37 pm

I'm not even sure they are better than the 2005 Spurs.


I'd be interested to see how the '04-'05 Pistons stacked up against this Spurs team. A big part of the reason they torched Miami was awful defensive rotations. The '04 Pistons team was so deep SA's rotations wouldn't matter as much and they were able to guard most any situation without needing too much help.
HotelVitale
RealGM
Posts: 16,779
And1: 11,886
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
Location: West Philly, PA

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#8 » by HotelVitale » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:41 pm

My thought would be that they're not even close. They played really well on both sides of the ball during the finals, but they weren't particularly dominant in the playoffs or regular season. Heat didn't bring it either and looked much slower and less skilled this time around (aside from Lebron). And the Spurs matched up well and stayed one step ahead the whole time.

For comparison's sake, the Mavs played really well against the Heat three years ago, but that still wasn't a very good NBA championship team compared to other champions. They just played great at the right time. These Spurs are much better than that team but I don't think they would win most series against most of the great teams from the past.
hoophabit
Analyst
Posts: 3,700
And1: 1,420
Joined: Jan 19, 2002
 

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#9 » by hoophabit » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:43 pm

pistontr wrote:They are flawless.


The Spurs are very good indeed. Rather, consider that the Heat with Wade's decline are a profoundly flawed team. Further, Ray Allen is approaching the end as well. LeBron can't do everything, even though sometimes it seems he can. Bosh is a nice complementary player, but he doesn't often carry a team. Bosh, James, and Wade represent a large proportion of their over the cap payroll. They can't afford the solid bench of the Spurs. Flawless, greatest ever? I think the great teams of the Lakers, Bulls, Celtics, or even Bad Boy Pistons were better. The Fo, Fo, Fo, 76s probably were too. However, the Spurs sure put it on the Heat this time, and I enjoyed it as well. I never liked the whole "Super Friends" thing.
DCintheD
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,949
And1: 653
Joined: May 30, 2010
   

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#10 » by DCintheD » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:43 pm

Piston Prince wrote:I'm not even sure they are better than the 2005 Spurs.


I'd be interested to see how the '04-'05 Pistons stacked up against this Spurs team. A big part of the reason they torched Miami was awful defensive rotations. The '04 Pistons team was so deep SA's rotations wouldn't matter as much and they were able to guard most any situation without needing too much help.

I remember us only having a 7-man rotation vs the spurs in 05. Our lack of depth was actually out weakness in that series. Our starting 5 played heavy minutes in those close games. Still tho we were a Robert Horry 3 away from potentially winning back to backs. I think this Spurs team, because of their depth, strong team chemistry and the emergence of Kawhi would have the edge vs the 05 Spurs.
RIP PALACE OF AUBURN HILLS
Billl
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,235
And1: 3,373
Joined: Sep 06, 2013

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#11 » by Billl » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:45 pm

I love watching this spurs team. They play team ball on both ends. I don't think that they have quite the separation from the competition as some of the great teams though. They are the champs and they deserve it, but it wasn't the type of runaway dominance that gets into the "greatest ever" talk in terms of individual teams.

On the flip side, 5 championships in the Duncan era certainly puts you in the conversation for all-time great runs. Celtics, Lakers, Bulls. When you get to that level, it's pretty special.
User avatar
The Penguin
"Beat The Commish" Champion/Mr. Clean Slate
Posts: 7,267
And1: 4,109
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
Location: Columbus
     

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#12 » by The Penguin » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:54 pm

DCintheD wrote:
Piston Prince wrote:I'm not even sure they are better than the 2005 Spurs.


I'd be interested to see how the '04-'05 Pistons stacked up against this Spurs team. A big part of the reason they torched Miami was awful defensive rotations. The '04 Pistons team was so deep SA's rotations wouldn't matter as much and they were able to guard most any situation without needing too much help.

I remember us only having a 7-man rotation vs the spurs in 05. Our lack of depth was actually out weakness in that series. Our starting 5 played heavy minutes in those close games. Still tho we were a Robert Horry 3 away from potentially winning back to backs. I think this Spurs team, because of their depth, strong team chemistry and the emergence of Kawhi would have the edge vs the 05 Spurs.



We were deeper in '04. Lost Okur, Corliss & Mike James and only added McDyess in 2005, though the 2005 team had the benefit of more time together.
hoophabit
Analyst
Posts: 3,700
And1: 1,420
Joined: Jan 19, 2002
 

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#13 » by hoophabit » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:57 pm

Billl wrote:I love watching this spurs team. They play team ball on both ends. I don't think that they have quite the separation from the competition as some of the great teams though. They are the champs and they deserve it, but it wasn't the type of runaway dominance that gets into the "greatest ever" talk in terms of individual teams.

On the flip side, 5 championships in the Duncan era certainly puts you in the conversation for all-time great runs. Celtics, Lakers, Bulls. When you get to that level, it's pretty special.


Duncan is something special. He's costing them the same money as Tiago Splitter, and if that isn't a team oriented, low ego superstar I don't know what is. Spurs are a very well run organization, and lucky to have drafted such a down to earth team anchor.
E-Z
Pro Prospect
Posts: 763
And1: 213
Joined: May 04, 2013

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#14 » by E-Z » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:21 pm

Best Spurs team? Definitely.

Best team of all time? I'll have to get back to you on that one.
User avatar
MrBigShot
RealGM
Posts: 18,578
And1: 20,138
Joined: Dec 18, 2010
 

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#15 » by MrBigShot » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:40 pm

Goin' to work pistons are better.
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
DCintheD
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,949
And1: 653
Joined: May 30, 2010
   

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#16 » by DCintheD » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:57 pm

Piston Prince wrote:
DCintheD wrote:
Piston Prince wrote:I'm not even sure they are better than the 2005 Spurs.


I'd be interested to see how the '04-'05 Pistons stacked up against this Spurs team. A big part of the reason they torched Miami was awful defensive rotations. The '04 Pistons team was so deep SA's rotations wouldn't matter as much and they were able to guard most any situation without needing too much help.

I remember us only having a 7-man rotation vs the spurs in 05. Our lack of depth was actually out weakness in that series. Our starting 5 played heavy minutes in those close games. Still tho we were a Robert Horry 3 away from potentially winning back to backs. I think this Spurs team, because of their depth, strong team chemistry and the emergence of Kawhi would have the edge vs the 05 Spurs.



We were deeper in '04. Lost Okur, Corliss & Mike James and only added McDyess in 2005, though the 2005 team had the benefit of more time together.

I thought u were referring to the 05 team being deep. yea we were much deeper the year we won it.
RIP PALACE OF AUBURN HILLS
User avatar
Minas
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,746
And1: 185
Joined: Jan 07, 2013
Location: Melbourne, Australia
   

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#17 » by Minas » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:05 am

Definitely not the best of all time.

Simmons convinced me in his book that the 86 Celtics were. But you could easily convince me that the 96 Bulls were as well.
Notanoob
Analyst
Posts: 3,475
And1: 1,223
Joined: Jun 07, 2013

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#18 » by Notanoob » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:17 am

Our Pistons teams could certainly give them trouble. The only decent paint protector they faced was Ibaka, and we all saw how they struggled with him. We've got a better version of Ibaka in Sheed, who was excellent against Duncan in the 05 finals, and Big Ben is a million times the player that Perkins or Adams are. Unlike them though, we've got a point guard who plays under control and can shoot 3's, and both of our guards are offensive threats, where as the Thunder were stuck relying on Reggie Jackson. They wouldn't be able to hide Parker anywhere. And finally, Prince has the length to really mess with Kawhi. Given our length, quickness, intelligence, and that we didn't rely on helping off guys for our defense like the Heat, we'd be the best bet outside of the 08 Celtics to stop their offense. The Mavs managed to really give them a scare by basically never helping, now imagine that but with guys who could actually play defense!

Offense might be a mess, but Rip was a pretty reliable option coming off screens during the postseason, and whatever games that Sheed is motivated to post up he'll be able to take advantage of a very old Duncan.

It's been discussed on the PC board, this isn't just Pistons homerism. We'd give these Spurs a much better fight than anyone they faced in the playoffs.
paQo the BAWSER
Banned User
Posts: 840
And1: 110
Joined: Nov 27, 2013
   

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#19 » by paQo the BAWSER » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:34 pm

I think they are the best team ever at least on the offensive side.
User avatar
Blkbrd671
RealGM
Posts: 30,862
And1: 4,819
Joined: Oct 05, 2010
Location: Guam,USA
       

Re: Is This Spurs Greatest Basketball Team Ever? 

Post#20 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:09 pm

Best team no, best core 3. arguably yes

Return to Detroit Pistons