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Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:36 am
by DetroitPistons
NOP was considered one of the top teams that would sign Monroe to an offer sheet. It looks like that wont happen now. This could mean possibly getting a better deal for Monroe now. BTW, I LOVE that trade for NOP. They are a playoff team next year imo.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:39 am
by Exit 9
Everybody and they mama had Asik going to the Pels last season and it finally happens lol.

Shuts down a lot of you alls dream scenario of getting Ryan Anderson though..No reason for them to trade for Monroe now unless they'd be routing Asik elsewhere.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:39 am
by RTM
NO wouldn't trade a first rounder without some kind of long term intention to pair Asik with Davis.

What's Monroe's market? I think the Lakers, Suns and Wizards seem most likely. But will any offer the max?

EDIT: Atlanta could also be in the mix. Put him next to Horford/shooters and bring Millsap off the bench.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:39 am
by sfballa13
DetroitPistons wrote:NOP was considered one of the top teams that would sign Monroe to an offer sheet. It looks like that wont happen now. This could mean possibly getting a better deal for Monroe now. BTW, I LOVE that trade for NOP. They are a playoff team next year imo.


Another team will screw us over by offering him max money knowing we will match just like with the contracts of Batum and Hibbert

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:42 am
by Exit 9
RTM wrote:NO wouldn't trade a first rounder without some kind of long term intention to pair Asik with Davis.

What's Monroe's market? I think the Lakers, Suns and Wizards seem most likely. But will any offer the max?


I don't see the Lakers or Wizards offering max but def. can see Phoenix throwing it to him at 12:01 the day free agency begins. They have nothing to lose, and will more than likely not net any of the big-ticket FA's so he'd be next up. The S&T options with them are very limited so hopefully he doesn't want to go there and it's all moot.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:42 am
by DCintheD
I don't think they had the cap space to offer Monroe much. It would've had to have been a sign n trade.

Asik's salary is strange. It's for 15M but only counts for half or something like that against the cap. Regardless it's a nice fit for NO but they keep giving up draft picks. Btw I thought u can't give up consecutive 1st rd picks?

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:44 am
by Kilo
Good trade for Houston as well - get a first rounder next year and dump Asik, saving them 8.3M towards the cap and makes bidding for James and the rest more likely. And if they strike out on those players, well they are a destination location/franchise and would have a near $9M TE and a first next year to dangle in the trade market.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:46 am
by DetroitPistons
RTM wrote:NO wouldn't trade a first rounder without some kind of long term intention to pair Asik with Davis.

What's Monroe's market? I think the Lakers, Suns and Wizards seem most likely. But will any offer the max?


If I remember correctly the Wizards have always liked Monroe so I think they are the ones we need to worry about the most. I don't see the Lakers offering a contract too him. They will be more focused on chasing Melo/Lebron.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:49 am
by RTM
DetroitPistons wrote:
RTM wrote:NO wouldn't trade a first rounder without some kind of long term intention to pair Asik with Davis.

What's Monroe's market? I think the Lakers, Suns and Wizards seem most likely. But will any offer the max?


If I remember correctly the Wizards have always liked Monroe so I think they are the ones we need to worry about the most. I don't see the Lakers offering a contract too him. They will be more focused on chasing Melo/Lebron.


They might decide to stick with Ariza and Gortat, in which case I doubt they chase Greg, but I can imagine they won't make at least give him a call.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:55 am
by Snakebites
New Orleans was never going to get Monroe without full cooperation from us, and they wouldn't have been willing to pay the price for that cooperation.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:56 am
by sfballa13
Who knows maybe Houston will completely strike out in FA and can use the cap space available from the Asik deal to take on Smith

Maybe Smith for Lin and Jones

That would be awesome

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:00 am
by Kilo
Tomorrow night is going to be wild me thinks.

Houston vs Chicago for Melo is the likely FA showdown, with Big 3 staying in Miami and Love to GS.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:12 am
by joeposh
sfballa13 wrote:Who knows maybe Houston will completely strike out in FA and can use the cap space available from the Asik deal to take on Smith

Maybe Smith for Lin and Jones

That would be awesome


Let's just hope the Melo sweepstakes drags out long enough to allow us to secure Monroe at less than max money. We don't want some of these teams turning their attention to the consolation prize early.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:16 am
by Q00
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

There goes our best trade partner :nonono:

I guess they realized what some here have been saying all year...why pay 15 mil/yr for Monroe, when there's dozens of bigs available just as good for half the price?

That's how the Pistons should be thinking too. Paying Monroe that much is insane.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:19 am
by ComboGuardCity
Q00 wrote:NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

There goes our best trade partner :nonono:

I guess they realized what some here have been saying all year...why pay 15 mil/yr for Monroe, when there's dozens of bigs available just as good for half the price?

That's how the Pistons should be thinking too. Paying Monroe that much is insane.

Yes, that's exactly what they realized.


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Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:30 am
by coordinator0
RTM wrote:NO wouldn't trade a first rounder without some kind of long term intention to pair Asik with Davis.

What's Monroe's market? I think the Lakers, Suns and Wizards seem most likely. But will any offer the max?


I think we can cross the Lakers off the list. They don't have any worthwhile assets to trade and Van Gundy won't let Monroe walk for nothing. Depending on their desperation level they might be landing spots for Jennings and/or Smith though. It's hard to say if Detroit would want pure cap space in return but I would be fine with it.

Phoenix looks like a legitimate option. Len is a huge question mark and the Morris twins aren't anything to write home about. Same goes for Plumlee. With that said they don't appear to have anything of value to send Detroit unless Bledsoe would want to go to Detroit (on a max deal). Then they could do a double sign-and-trade.

Washington is interesting. They have an obvious need for a big since Gortat is a free agent. The only realistic tradeable asset they have is Otto Porter and while I wouldn't feel good about him being the main piece coming back in a trade he could be a very good fit for the SF role that Van Gundy likes. A future pick would probably have to be a part of that deal too to interest Detroit but it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:31 am
by Pharaoh
Q00 wrote:NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

There goes our best trade partner :nonono:

I guess they realized what some here have been saying all year...why pay 15 mil/yr for Monroe, when there's dozens of bigs available just as good for half the price?

That's how the Pistons should be thinking too. Paying Monroe that much is insane.


Asik only counts on the cap for $8 mil but they'll be paying him $15 mil

And Asik is expiring lol

Pelicans just gave up a first to pay Asik $15 mil for possibly ONE season

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Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:40 am
by DBC10
Lol "Dozens." No joke, I cracked up at that bit.

But Wiz will likely keep Gortat and Ariza since they got to 2nd round with those 2. Lakers are lolworthy and won't do anything drastic as they'll likely keep their options open for bigger stars. Let's get that re-sign going for Monroe so I can see some quality cognitive dissonance happen in glorious fashion.

I'm glad this trade brought down some mental delusions in some people in here though who were adamant on trading Monroe. Oh man the feels.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:41 am
by Kilo
First round pick sent is top 20 protected in perpetuity. NO is desperate to make the playoffs - and I think they'll easily re-sign Asik, who just wants the opportunity to start at his going rate of $8M with some inflation factored in going forward.

Re: Asik traded to NOP. One less suitor for Monroe?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:56 am
by Q00
Pharaoh wrote:
Q00 wrote:NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

There goes our best trade partner :nonono:

I guess they realized what some here have been saying all year...why pay 15 mil/yr for Monroe, when there's dozens of bigs available just as good for half the price?

That's how the Pistons should be thinking too. Paying Monroe that much is insane.


Asik only counts on the cap for $8 mil but they'll be paying him $15 mil

And Asik is expiring lol

Pelicans just gave up a first to pay Asik $15 mil for possibly ONE season

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15 mil for 1 season of Asik >>> 60 mil for 4 seasons of Monroe

And the reports say if they didn't have assurances of him resigning, they wouldn't have given up a 1st rd pick. So they'll probably be resigning him to a longer deal at around that 7-8 mil/yr mark he's making now.

Its literally insane to think we're talking about paying Monroe 15 mil/yr, when we're already stacked up front, while other teams continue to get quality bigs for considerably less (and we don't even have a need for bigs!)

I could maybe understand if we were a perimeter team and had no bigs, then overpaying just to get 1 could be understandble. But when you already have a surplus up front and a huge weakness on the perimeter, to be overpaying for even more bigs, its just crazy to me.

With the perimeter needs we have, we're better off just letting him walk and spending ALL that money on the best perimeter talent we can get in FA.

We got a franchise Center, no legit perimeter players, and almost 25 mil to spend in FA. Any sane team would be spending every dime of that on perimeters to surround their franchise Center. To think we are planning to spend over half of that money on another Center instead... :crazy: