Eric Gordon to the Pistons trade Idea

504ByrdGang · Post #1 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:18 pm

I know it's a bad contract but both teams are looking for the same thing. A shooting guard who's a great 3pt shooter and can create shots for his self. The FA market for shooting guard is only Lance but he is most likely to resign to Indy and no other 2 guards are available. Gordon is a bad fit for the Pelicans with the log jam at the 2 guard and being unhappy since being traded and would do well in a new scenery. He's a capable 20ppg scorer but on a team with Jrue/Anderson/Tyreke/ and AD he does not get the touches he needs.

Pistons out: Jerebko, Bynum, Datome, Mitchell
Pistons in: Gordon

Pistons dump and bunch of trash and unnecessary players that does not move the needle on the team. They gain a contract that while bad just takes the place of multiple contracts for players that does not make the team better. They gain a 40% 3pt shooter and a sg who's capable defender and can create his own offense which they desperately needs. Gordon has a player option next so if healthy and plays well will be more inclined to decline it at only 25 would be looking to secure a more long term stable deal. Gordon also would be able to get the touches he needs to become a capable 20ppg scorer that he is.

MotownMadness · Post #2 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:25 pm

We are not taking on a bad contract like that right now. Maybe Jennings for him which would shed you guys of the 8 mil you need but not expirings.

504ByrdGang · Post #3 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:28 pm

MotownMadness wrote:We are not taking on a bad contract like that right now. Maybe Jennings for him which would shed you guys of the 8 mil you need but not expirings.

You guys needs scorers and spacer he's is exactly that. He's playing on a contract year and has the choice to pick up a player options and i'm sure if he stay healthy and play well he will decline it. The only other shooting guard that will be a free agent next year is Affalo so the pickings are slim.

Kilo · Post #4 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:33 pm

Nope.

There are other avenues other than free agency to add a shooting guard. Firstly we have faith in KCP, secondly there is next years draft where Pistons will have their own first rounder and will be picking in the 10-15 range, thirdly there is the trade option where Smith on two years, Jennings on an expiring, Monroe locked up for three years will all have more value than they have today based on contracts alone - not accounting for the fact that all should have better seasons under Stan and a competent coaching staff and less drama than Cheeks and the Gong Show of a season last year that would further increase their respective values.

rmfc · Post #5 » by **rmfc** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:43 pm

Neptune · Post #6 » by **Neptune** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:57 pm

rmfc wrote:No.

MotownMadness · Post #7 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:03 pm

504ByrdGang wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:We are not taking on a bad contract like that right now. Maybe Jennings for him which would shed you guys of the 8 mil you need but not expirings.

You guys needs scorers and spacer he's is exactly that. He's playing on a contract year and has the choice to pick up a player options and i'm sure if he stay healthy and play well he will decline it. The only other shooting guard that will be a free agent next year is Affalo so the pickings are slim.

Ill take Morrow or something at 2-4 mil per over a unhealthy and underperforming Gordon at 15 mil per.

Notanoob · Post #8 » by **Notanoob** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:09 pm

I don't hate it, but Gordon has looked really bad. He's basically an average player at this point, being paid star player money.

504ByrdGang · Post #9 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:21 pm

Notanoob wrote:I don't hate it, but Gordon has looked really bad. He's basically an average player at this point, being paid star player money.

It's not that, he's is just a scorer and if he's not scoring he's useless. So the problem with him being on the Pels is we have tons of scoring so he doesn't get the touches he need to be as effective as possible.

Q00 · Post #10 » by **Q00** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:33 pm

Misleading title.

I thought the Pistons had traded for Gordon.

sfballa13 · Post #11 » by **sfballa13** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:52 pm

Id rather have Smith riding the bench than pay Eric Gordon to miss half the season while chucking

ImHeisenberg · Post #12 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:02 pm

I feel like the people who keep bringing up Eric Gordon definitely didn't watch him play last season. His explosive athleticism is gone.

I understand he could fill a role of need, but he's paid at least double than what is com measurement with his court production.

PrivateZer0 · Post #13 » by **PrivateZer0** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:08 pm

I got tricked by the title lmao.

504ByrdGang · Post #14 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:09 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
504ByrdGang wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:We are not taking on a bad contract like that right now. Maybe Jennings for him which would shed you guys of the 8 mil you need but not expirings.

You guys needs scorers and spacer he's is exactly that. He's playing on a contract year and has the choice to pick up a player options and i'm sure if he stay healthy and play well he will decline it. The only other shooting guard that will be a free agent next year is Affalo so the pickings are slim.

Ill take Morrow or something at 2-4 mil per over a unhealthy and underperforming Gordon at 15 mil per.

You over value Morrow he's good at only one thino hitting open 3's he's a bad defender can't dribble or create. He's a good bench player that's all he's no where near a starter.

HotelVitale · Post #15 » by **HotelVitale** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:13 pm

504ByrdGang wrote:
Notanoob wrote:I don't hate it, but Gordon has looked really bad. He's basically an average player at this point, being paid star player money.

It's not that, he's is just a scorer and if he's not scoring he's useless. So the problem with him being on the Pels is we have tons of scoring so he doesn't get the touches he need to be as effective as possible.

That's not totally true, since his efficiency has fallen along with his usage. On the Clippers his true shooting was up around 58% while it's fallen to 53% on NOH. He also got to the line a LOT less last year and altogether his production is pretty average. On paper, giving Will Bynum his same shots is a wash, so 2 years and $30m is pretty hard to justify. Especially since we have cap room to go get someone else.

For right now, Pels would be better off playing him as a spot-up guy--they definitely need a solid wing shooter if Tyreke and Asik will be playing together. (Also, we have as few shots to go around as the Pels. Monroe, Smith, and Jennings all traditionally take up well over 20%+ usage, as does Bynum in the 2nd unit. We'll want more shots to get around to KCP and Drummond this year too. Just like y'all, we need straight-up shooters much more than ball-dominant creators.)

504ByrdGang · Post #16 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:16 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
504ByrdGang wrote:
Notanoob wrote:I don't hate it, but Gordon has looked really bad. He's basically an average player at this point, being paid star player money.

It's not that, he's is just a scorer and if he's not scoring he's useless. So the problem with him being on the Pels is we have tons of scoring so he doesn't get the touches he need to be as effective as possible.

That's not totally true, since his efficiency has fallen along with his usage. On the Clippers his true shooting was up around 58% while it's fallen to 53% on NOH. He also got to the line a LOT less last year and altogether his production is pretty average. On paper, giving Will Bynum his same shots is a wash, so 2 years and $30m is pretty hard to justify. Especially since we have cap room to go get someone else.

For right now, Pels would be better off playing him as a spot-up guy--they definitely need a solid wing shooter if Tyreke and Asik will be playing together. (Also, we have as few shots to go around as the Pels. Monroe, Smith, and Jennings all traditionally take up well over 20%+ usage, as does Bynum in the 2nd unit. We'll want more shots to get around to KCP and Drummond this year too. Just like y'all, we need straight-up shooters much more than ball-dominant creators.)

That was the theme of the year for pel fans. Gordon got straight disrespected by the refs all season. He would get hacked but couldn't buy a call. Eventually it lead him to settling for shots.

Q00 · Post #17 » by **Q00** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:17 pm

Given the lack of quality perimeter players in this FA class, I'd unload our garbage for Gordon.

9 mil of the money this year would be paid using their contracts, and Gordon is still way better than any of those guys we'd be giving up.

In other words, Gordon for 15 mil > Jerebko/Bynum/Mitchell/Datome for 9 mil.

And then he becomes a huge expiring contract the year after. So its basically only 1 year of paying him big money, and we would still have max capspace to spend next summer even with that contract added, so I say why not.

504ByrdGang · Post #18 » by **504ByrdGang** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:30 pm

Q00 wrote:Given the lack of quality perimeter players in this FA class, I'd unload our garbage for Gordon.

9 mil of the money this year would be paid using their contracts, and Gordon is still way better than any of those guys we'd be giving up.

In other words, Gordon for 15 mil > Jerebko/Bynum/Mitchell/Datome for 9 mil.

And then he becomes a huge expiring contract the year after. So its basically only 1 year of paying him big money, and we would still have max capspace to spend next summer even with that contract added, so I say why not.

You get it and if he doesnt work out you have a huge expiring contract other teams would want

ComboGuardCity · Post #19 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:32 pm

Jesus the title scared me.

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coordinator0 · Post #20 » by **coordinator0** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:42 pm

504ByrdGang wrote:It's not that, he's is just a scorer and if he's not scoring he's useless. So the problem with him being on the Pels is we have tons of scoring so he doesn't get the touches he need to be as effective as possible.

If this is true I highly doubt Van Gundy would be interested in him.