Team must gone keep billups

aad · Post #1 » by **aad** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:29 pm

They havnt decline his option yet whats really going on in piston land

ImHeisenberg · Post #2 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:36 pm

Isn't tomorrow the deadline to decline it, or it becomes fully guaranteed?

Heck, maybe SVG has a deal lined up tomorrow and wants to use Billups' salary? Or, maybe Billups is healthy enough to convince them to keep him on?

We'll know by Tuesday, I suppose.

Q00 · Post #3 » by **Q00** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:04 pm

yeah I think today was the day on Billups. I forgot about that. Well they have til midnight I guess.

engelbert321 · Post #4 » by **engelbert321** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:40 pm

Mr. Big Shot is done. Get him a coaching role instead

aad · Post #5 » by **aad** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:45 pm

Bad move by keeping him he has nothing to offer this team hes done

Kilo · Post #6 » by **Kilo** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:49 pm

Maybe they're going to give him up until the very deadline to retire and thus go out on his own terms. Or they're holding out for compensation from Minnesota if Saunders really wants him as an assistant there. I dunno.

ImHeisenberg · Post #7 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:54 pm

Another important factor to consider- Detroit doesn't have to terminate the contract if Billups decides to retire.

They don't have to look like a bad guy by any fans, and Billups can pursue whatever goal he desires.

coordinator0 · Post #8 » by **coordinator0** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 am

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q62

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player is no longer playing or has retired.

Waiting to see if Billups is going to retire would be a bad move for the team if he's not in their on-court plans for next season. Especially if they're going to go after free agents aggressively like Van GUndy mentioned. Any extra cap space is an asset. The league deadline is tomorrow so there's still time. Some players had different times specifically mentioned in their contract but as far as I can tell that's not the case with Billups.

MotownMadness · Post #9 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:40 am

Better decline that Stan

haulerch · Post #10 » by **haulerch** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:57 am

Pretty sure that Billups decision is due by midnight.

DBC10 · Post #11 » by **DBC10** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:03 am

Decline and move him into a scouting department or player development.

He's done as far as I'm concerned, the legend is done.

Mr Peanut · Post #12 » by **Mr Peanut** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:10 am

Would be a good decision to decline the option and give him a role in the front office.

He's got nothing left to give on the floor except the opportunity for the Pistons twitter account to pull the "Chauncey for 3! #TweetsFrom2004and2014" gimmick.

ImHeisenberg · Post #13 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:57 am

I can't find any reports stating Detroit declined his option. It could still go public later today, but I'm wondering why in the heck they wouldn't decline his option? He was done last year. He looked good in the first game against Washington, and that was it. After that, he either looked slow and tired or was injured and out of the line-up.

Redeemed · Post #14 » by **Redeemed** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:42 pm

Billups is done. I hope he retires with dignity, instead of trying to limp through another season. :nonono:

Retire or be declined.

HotelVitale · Post #15 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:07 pm

coordinator0 wrote:http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q62

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player is no longer playing or has retired.

Waiting to see if Billups is going to retire would be a bad move for the team if he's not in their on-court plans for next season. Especially if they're going to go after free agents aggressively like Van GUndy mentioned. Any extra cap space is an asset. The league deadline is tomorrow so there's still time. Some players had different times specifically mentioned in their contract but as far as I can tell that's not the case with Billups.

I'm pretty sure retired player's contracts come off cap space. Seems like I've read numerous teams about teams encouraging X or Y player to retire so they can clear him from the books. Steve Nash was the most recent example. Maybe it just takes some time to disappear?

coordinator0 · Post #16 » by **coordinator0** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:19 pm

HotelVitale wrote:I'm pretty sure retired player's contracts come off cap space. Seems like I've read numerous teams about teams encouraging X or Y player to retire so they can clear him from the books. Steve Nash was the most recent example. Maybe it just takes some time to disappear?

As I understand it if a player retires the team doesn't pay him anymore (obviously) but his contract still counts against the salary cap. It's dumb but I'm pretty sure that's how it works and Coon's cap FAQ seems to confirm it.

HotelVitale · Post #17 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:29 pm

coordinator0 wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:I'm pretty sure retired player's contracts come off cap space. Seems like I've read numerous teams about teams encouraging X or Y player to retire so they can clear him from the books. Steve Nash was the most recent example. Maybe it just takes some time to disappear?

As I understand it if a player retires the team doesn't pay him anymore (obviously) but his contract still counts against the salary cap. It's dumb but I'm pretty sure that's how it works and Coon's cap FAQ seems to confirm it.

Just checked; if a player retires for medical reasons, then he can be cleared from the books in a year. Billups would probably qualify--he can't really play at a high level now with his body where it's at--but if he retired today we'd only be eligible for cap relief a year from today.

In other words, retiring doesn't do us any good and we need to turn down his option.

wallace72 · Post #18 » by **wallace72** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:16 pm

engelbert321 wrote:Mr. Big Shot is done. Get him a coaching role instead

Let him learn our guards how to play.
You just can't buy experience.....

kf96 · Post #19 » by **kf96** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:59 pm

Pistons decline team option on Billups
https://twitter.com/Vincent_Ellis56/sta ... 7283169280 (via http://ble.ac/teamstream-) http://teamstre.am/TKhSzO

engelbert321 · Post #20 » by **engelbert321** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:00 pm

Wise decision. Time to move on

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