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Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:56 am
by kf96
Which one of this guys is better and which one would be better fit with us?
Also how much they will get paid this summer and is there teams intrested in them?
Here are their comparision instats:
Wesley Johnson
http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXjXXjohnswe01.htmlJordan Hamilton
http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXhXXhamiljo02.html&t=2
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:58 am
by kf96
Sry link for Hamilton is per 36 min and for Johnson is per game
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:30 am
by dan2314
How could anyone possibly want Wes Johnson?
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:04 pm
by sfballa13
Ill take Kyle Singler
I dont want either of these guys unless Hamilton is willing to take the minimum but even if he is where would we play him in the rotation
Meeks / KCP
Hamilton - Singler - Martin
We are pretty set with Singler-Martin unless SVG moves Singler in a deal to get rid of either Jennings/Smith
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:48 pm
by Pistons888
sfballa13 wrote:Ill take Kyle Singler
I dont want either of these guys unless Hamilton is willing to take the minimum but even if he is where would we play him in the rotation
Meeks / KCP
Hamilton - Singler - Martin
We are pretty set with Singler-Martin unless SVG moves Singler in a deal to get rid of either Jennings/Smith
How are we set with Singler/Martin?!
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:03 pm
by KCP5
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Johnson is better then Singler imo. More Athletic, Better Defender and a better shooter. He has potential but lacks confidence at times.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:22 pm
by engelbert321
Johnson was decent last year. He was definitely very... Athletic. He could hit the 3 as well.
I don't know much about Hamilton.
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Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:32 pm
by ParrottK
Singler(TS% .574, eFG% .525) is way more efficient than either of Jordan Hamilton(TS% .528, eFG% .496) and Wesley Johnson(TS% .522, eFG% .502), but none of them are really starting caliber.
Johnson is probably the best defender of the bunch. Hamilton sometimes grabs a lot of rebounds. But neither can shoot well enough to crack our rotation.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:36 pm
by The Penguin
Singler will be our 3, Martin will be a backup who can hit a shot, Smith may play a bit of 3 when we want to go real big or are playing the Lebron/Melos of the world and KCP may see some time there when we play smaller.
Wes Johnson and Jordan Hamilton are grasping at straws. If we want to see real improvement the only semi-realistic way left IMO is replacing Jennings with Bledsoe or Rondo, both of them may be pipe dreams.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:39 pm
by KCP5
ParrottK wrote:Singler(TS% .574, eFG% .525) is way more efficient than either of Jordan Hamilton(TS% .528, eFG% .496) and Wesley Johnson(TS% .522, eFG% .502), but none of them are really starting caliber.
Johnson is probably the best defender of the bunch. Hamilton sometimes grabs a lot of rebounds. But neither can shoot well enough to crack our rotation.
All else aside In a central division loaded with star SFs would it not be best to try and get the best defender for the 3 spot. I worry about Singler guarding those guys.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:30 pm
by Piston Pete
Either would be better than Singler LONG-TERM.
Johnson is the best defensively.
Hamilton has the most upside offensively.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:34 pm
by The Penguin
Piston Pete wrote:Either would be better than Singler LONG-TERM.
Johnson is the best defensively.
Hamilton has the most upside offensively.
Wes Johnson is 27. The only long term answer he represents is to the question "Who did Minny foolishly draft over DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe"
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:01 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Neither Johnson or Hamilton are worth a roster spot on a team trying to improve. Johnson was a bust, and Hamilton is not efficient offensively and doesn't do a whole lot defensively.
We're likely going to enter the season with Singler as our starting SF, and Detroit will keep an eye open to swing a deal for a quality small forward.
If Denver is still open to moving Wilson Chandler, I would definitely inquire what it would take to get him. He's on a very reasonable deal for what he brings. He's not a superstar by any measure, but he is a very solid starter.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:05 pm
by kurtis48239
I would take johnson,he had a pretty good season with the lakers and busted out when kobe was out,him and blake had a pretty good run until kobe came back.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:11 pm
by RTM
Neither of those players are an upgrade over Singler. Ideally, all are best suited to come off the bench.
Kyle is fine until someone better becomes available.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:11 pm
by Kilo
With signing of Meeks and KCP hopefully "blossoming" (old timers here must remember this reference), Singler becomes a full time SF and he's good enough for 20 minutes a game at least, and sad to say but Smith will get at least 10 mpg at SF as well so any FA SF is looking at 18 minutes per game, and there is still Cartier Martin, Luigi Datome to battle for minutes at SF as well.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:29 pm
by Piston Pete
The Penguin wrote:Piston Pete wrote:Either would be better than Singler LONG-TERM.
Johnson is the best defensively.
Hamilton has the most upside offensively.
Wes Johnson is 27. The only long term answer he represents is to the question "Who did Minny foolishly draft over DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe"
Can you tell me how old Singler is?
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:35 pm
by Piston Pete
kurtis48239 wrote:I would take johnson,he had a pretty good season with the lakers and busted out when kobe was out,him and blake had a pretty good run until kobe came back.
Johnson averaged 14 points, 6 rebounds, 1.1 steals, and 1.5 blocks per last Feb - while shooting 50% from 3 and 51% overall for the month.
Re: Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:51 pm
by jakebernat
Just invite Liggins to camp. He's going to be the best chance we have to grab an athletic 3&D SF for cheap
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Wesley Johnson vs Jordan Hamilton
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:03 pm
by RSCD3_
Liggins worked out with the thunder and heat and both passed him over
He also has domestic issues as he hit his girlfriend in the head with his x box 360 in front of their 2 year old son
I don't want knuckleheads but I don't want people who are terrible human beings
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