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Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:55 am
by Kilo
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 46m
Hearing Pistons second-rounder Spencer Dinwiddie has landed a three-year deal from his new team
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Does this make him a RFA after the three years or a UFA but we'd have his full bird rights? At least it shows they value him more than a standard second rounder, and also the investment of the three years is beneficial to both the team and player if the plan is to essentially red shirt him for the season.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:57 am
by Snakebites
That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:58 am
by Phobo_Phile
One or two of the years could also be guaranteed. Interesting to see if that means some major moves are on the horizon or if Mitchell will get cut.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:01 am
by Kilo
^I think it makes sense in that if he was given a two year standard second rounder deal he'd be locked behind Jennings and Augustin for the length of his rookie deal, but the third year will see Jennings expired and thus he'd be here with Augustin only and should have more playing time available.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:04 am
by Phenomenonsense
Snakebites wrote:That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
Seems as though we're expecting "6th man to starter" quality out of him. A three year deal gives us bird rights and keeps him an RFA.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:06 am
by coordinator0
If Dinwiddie is going to be out for a long time this season they probably wanted more than one season of him fully healthy (hopefully) and under contract.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:09 am
by need4detroit
Good. Too talented not to lock up cheap.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:13 am
by Q00
coordinator0 wrote:If Dinwiddie is going to be out for a long time this season they probably wanted more than one season of him fully healthy (hopefully) and under contract.
yeah that's what I was thinking. Also, the cost per year of a 2nd rd pick is so cheap, the more years the better anyways.
I wonder who's getting dumped though because now we have 15 players under contract with Monroe yet to be signed.
Also if we trade Monroe for multiple players we'll be over the limit even more.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:14 am
by Kilo
coordinator0 wrote:If Dinwiddie is going to be out for a long time this season they probably wanted more than one season of him fully healthy (hopefully) and under contract.
On the flip, if they are serious in their intent to red shirt him, Dinwiddie probably wanted that third year of guaranteed money as well to go along with their play-it-safe strategy/schedule with him rather than trying to force things on his knee to get back and on the court ASAP.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:15 am
by Ghost
Stan must have faith in the kid, that makes me excited. I've never watched him play...
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:18 am
by Kilo
Tony Mitchell is likely the 16th man right now, on the outside looking in. Will probably have to battle Datome in camp for the last roster spot, and Datome as the reputation of the three point assassin type that Stan has actively loaded the roster up with so seems like a more natural fit to what Stan is looking for.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:19 am
by DBC10
SVG definitely saw something in Spencer.
I'm excited for the Mayor that Detroit deserves and not the one it needs right now.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:31 am
by Irate
Kilo wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 46m
Hearing Pistons second-rounder Spencer Dinwiddie has landed a three-year deal from his new team
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Does this make him a RFA after the three years or a UFA but we'd have his full bird rights? At least it shows they value him more than a standard second rounder, and also the investment of the three years is beneficial to both the team and player if the plan is to essentially red shirt him for the season.
I believe it will be the same situation the Rockets had with Parsons this year. Give him the QO and he is UFA after his fourth year. Deny him the QO like Houston did and he is a RFA after 3 years.
We will get a close up view of this in action next summer with Singler, since he will basically be going through the same thing.
Also, this doesn't mean his 3rd year is guaranteed. Mitchel has the same type contract and his 3rd year is not guaranteed.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:33 am
by ImHeisenberg
Snakebites wrote:That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
Spencer will be cheap enough to not worry about.
Additionally, Jennings and Augustin will be expiring contracts next summer. Easy to move if they're not working out.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:43 am
by gusman
Seems good to me.
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Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:55 am
by Snakebites
ImHeisenberg wrote:Snakebites wrote:That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
Spencer will be cheap enough to not worry about.
Additionally, Jennings and Augustin will be expiring contracts next summer. Easy to move if they're not working out.
Oh right, I forgot that Jennings has a contract that is one year shorter than Smith's.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:37 am
by Kilo
Third year is a Team Option according to Vince Ellis tweet.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:32 am
by princeofpalace
Snakebites wrote:That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
We gave Singler and Middleton 3 year deals so it doesnt seem strange at all to me
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:10 pm
by Billl
Nice "Low risk, high reward" move for both parties. For us, min contracts are essentially nothing and we'll have him locked up if he regains his form. For him, he gets guaranteed money coming off a serious injury. If he pans out, he'll still have plenty of time for bigger paychecks. Most importantly, it takes any pressure off for him rushing rehab. He's gonna get paid and get a nice long look to prove himself.
Re: Pistons give Dinwiddie a 3 yr contract...
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:27 pm
by coordinator0
princeofpalace wrote:Snakebites wrote:That's weird though given our comittments to Jennings and Augustin, which go on for 3 and 2 years, respectively.
He'll have 2 pg ahead of him on the depth charts for most of the life of that contract. Seems strange to give a 3 year deal to a third stringer.
We gave Singler and Middleton 3 year deals so it doesnt seem strange at all to me
Yep. Mitchell too. This might be becoming the thing to do for high picks in the second round.