If Smith and Jennings buy in, what will roles be under SVG?

[Laimbeer]

If Smith and Jennings buy in, what roles will SVG have them play?

[ComboGuardCity]

6th man and starting PG. Jennings has the tools to be a better Jameer. Smith can be like Odom with better defense.


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[MotownMadness]

If Smith buys in then he could be a good player to us. But Jennings has no hope in my opinion. He just has too many holes in his game right now. No Defense, Cannot finish in traffic or inside in general, Cant shoot, Cant run a offense and has a poor attitude. So basically you have to teach Jennings everything just to get him to where hes not hurting us on the court.

[engelbert321]

6th man and starting PG. Jennings has the tools to be a better Jameer. Smith can be like Odom with better defense.


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will Smith finish games though? Because that will be a big deal


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[bstein14]

C: Dre(34) / Moose(14)
PF: Moose (20) / Smith (28)

I think ideally Smith gives you 28-30 MPG off the bench, of great PF play... let him really beat up other team's backup bigs and play shutout defense on them. That should be a huge win for us he could be the best backup PF in the NBA if he bought into that idea. No outside jumpers everything within 15 feet.

Jennings should give us 28-30 MPG of great PG play... also needs to play smarter and limit his TOs... do what he can to make his teammates better and get them some easy baskets.

[ARoS]

Smith doesnt even need to buy in to SVG, he simply needs to buy into his own skillset and stop thinking he's Kevin Durrant. Under any coach, even Cheeks, if he does this, then he's worth his contract. He needs to understand its okay to have a quiet - normal - game: a lot of the time. Grab some boards. Play hard defense. Be that team guy on offense who recognises the teams strengths. The younger guys wont be good at this yet so he needs to show them. In a nutshell: take responsibility for the teams result, take responsibility for his teammates statlines. He plays a little like an insecure teenager trying to prove everyone wrong. Keep it quiet, gain the fans respect for what he is doing. WE WILL RECOGNISE IT IF HE DOES IT.

[Redeemed]

Jennings will benefit greatly. Jennings can excel in a free flowing run and gun playground type of game. But when the screws are tightened he seems to be at a lose to thinking through the game like a chessmaster. SVG lays a framework which will enable Jennings to think through how certain plays can unfold.

Smith needs a SVG, Popvich, Carisle type of environment to get him to leverage what he has remaining in the tank. He has wasted much of his career wanting to do things his way when his way is dumb. If he buys in, he becomes a more efficient player, downright dominate against the second unit.

Those guys are major wildcards, mainly because it is hard to tell if ego will get them to submit to guidance. Or if they end up riding the pine for failing to buyin to SVG's program. Either way, SVG is going to have a very different environment than the lamb duck coaches that came and went before him.

Those guys buying in catapult us into the playoffs.

[Kilo]

Smith should finish games in that he's better than Moose defensively and unless Dre starts hitting FT's (and Smoove's 2014 was an anomaly and he can get back to his career average of 65% at least) you can't have Dre on the floor when the Pistons have the ball in a close game either. So late game sub patterns should have Smith as the constant with Dre subbing in when other team has the ball and Moose in for Dre when Pistons have the ball whenever possible.

[E-Z]

Van Gundy sure isn't a miracle worker. Man, I hope either Smith or Monroe find a new home next season. Either that, or one of them accepts the bench role. I applaud the man's patience.

[Neptune]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

[Redeemed]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

[jakebernat]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

i'd say it's a question...a pretty good one

[Neptune]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

Show me where SVG verbally said, "both will not start".

It's known that our big 3 can't play 48 minutes together but Smith will start at the 3 for a couple of minutes in the 1st quarter then shift to the 4. Folks will be disappointed if they think Smith(who makes 14mil) will come off the bench.

[Q00]

I think Smith will be used primarily as a rim protector and low post option, used at SF situationally for defensive purposes against the bigger elite SFs. Speaking of which, we have a nice little trio of defensive options at SF here now with Smith, Butler, and KCP, able to give LeBron a lot of different look with 3 quality defenders.

I'm not sold on Stan starting Jennings anymore now that we have Augustin. Two things I think are clear that Stan wants from his starting perimeter is defense and 3 pt shooting. Augustin is better than Jennings in both those regards.

Thus I could see Jennings be converted into a scorer off the bench/6th man type role.

If I'm Stan, I'm starting my best defenders to set the tone on defense (Augustin/Meeks/KCP/Smith/Dre) and then bringing in scorers off the bench like Jennings, Monroe, and Butler when an offensive boost is needed.

Add Singler to the mix and that's a really good 8-9 man rotation.

[Q00]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

Show me where SVG verbally said, "both will not start".

It's known that our big 3 can't play 48 minutes together but Smith will start at the 3 for a couple of minutes in the 1st quarter then shift to the 4. Folks will be disappointed if they think Smith(who makes 14mil) will come off the bench.

I don't have the articles handy, but I've seen numerous quotes where he said the 3 will not play much at all together. I didn't take that to mean they were going to start together, but only for the first few minutes of each half. I took that as they were never going to be on the court together, except for rare circumstances that require using Smith at SF defensively. I think there are some teams that you need to go big against to matchup, so that's probably the only reason why he wouldn't rule it out completely, but those teams are the exception not the norm. So I really don't think we will see all 3 starting together, and probably will go 5-10 game stretches (if not more) without them ever seeing the court together. I don't think salary is going to factor in either as to who starts, so I won't be surprised to see either Monroe or Smith coming off the bench.

[Han Solo]

Moose should be coming off Bench imo

[Moose10Fan]

Smith off the bench,

Having Smith start the game with Drummond is just going lead him to believe he's the #1 option out there.

[Laimbeer]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

Show me where SVG verbally said, "both will not start".

It's known that our big 3 can't play 48 minutes together but Smith will start at the 3 for a couple of minutes in the 1st quarter then shift to the 4. Folks will be disappointed if they think Smith(who makes 14mil) will come off the bench.

Exactly. The whole "who comes off the bench" is crap. What matters is how many minutes each plays, who plays together, and who ends the game. Starting all three for appearance/ego sake is fine.

[Billl]

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

Show me where SVG verbally said, "both will not start".

It's known that our big 3 can't play 48 minutes together but Smith will start at the 3 for a couple of minutes in the 1st quarter then shift to the 4. Folks will be disappointed if they think Smith(who makes 14mil) will come off the bench.

Exactly. The whole "who comes off the bench" is crap. What matters is how many minutes each plays, who plays together, and who ends the game. Starting all three for appearance/ego sake is fine.

No, starting them all isn't fine. That means they play the majority of their minutes together. No rational coach is going to routinely yank guys 4 minutes into each game.

And really, doing anything for "ego's sake" is not going to be fine for this team. You can't lose this many games and then have ego issues. Accepting any of that kind of nonsense will prevent SVG from changing the culture around here.

[epheisey]

Both are going to start, it's not even a question.

Both Smith and Monroe? Starting again?

LOL! I'm kidding. But no, I don't see a viable scenario where both guys start again this year. SVG spoke on that earlier when he first took the position. Both will not start, but both will play a big role if both stay with the Stones.

Show me where SVG verbally said, "both will not start".

It's known that our big 3 can't play 48 minutes together but Smith will start at the 3 for a couple of minutes in the 1st quarter then shift to the 4. Folks will be disappointed if they think Smith(who makes 14mil) will come off the bench.

By that logic, show me where SVG has verbally said, "both will start".

A starting lineup plays together for at least the first 8-9 minutes aside from foul trouble. They aren't going to screw up the flow of the game, or unnecessarily burn TOs to make changes so they can arrange their lineup for later on in the game. Logistically, you can't start a player who is in effect your 6th man. The rotation won't work, you'll end up having all 3 on the bench at the same time, which is the worst case scenario IMO.