Pistons intrested in Chase Budinger

kf96 · Post #1 » by **kf96** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:38 pm

Sources: Timberwolves shopping forward Chase Budinger - Yahoo Sports (via http://ble.ac/teamstream-) http://teamstre.am/Zww3el

DetroitPistons · Post #2 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:43 pm

Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

Phenomenonsense · Post #3 » by **Phenomenonsense** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:46 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

We're interested in starting him obviously.

aad · Post #4 » by **aad** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:50 pm

Hes a SF

DetroitPistons · Post #5 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:56 pm

Phenomenonsense wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

We're interested in starting him obviously.

Well I wouldn't say that's obvious. He is no better than Singler. Second of all, if we are going after a SF we should be going after a legitimate starter, not a band-aid.

Laimbeer · Post #6 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:57 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

Budinger would be cheaper in terms of assets and his long range game suits the SVG blueprint.

BigFatBob · Post #7 » by **BigFatBob** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:59 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

DetroitPistons · Post #8 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:59 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

Budinger would be cheaper in terms of assets and his long range game suits the SVG blueprint.

I'm not interested in cheap assets, especially with the increasing cap. We should be going after a starting SF who can defend and shoot. We have expirings and first rounders to use to make that happen.

No-Man · Post #9 » by **No-Man** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:07 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Why? We need a starting SF. Go after Jeff Green already...

Green is terrible, at least Budinger is a good passer and a terrific shooter when healthy, a high IQ guy, Green is inconsistent and will be an awful fit with Smith-Drummond.

No-Man · Post #10 » by **No-Man** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:13 pm

There all health concerns with Budinger but if he comes back at a normal level he is a really good fit and he is not that crazy expensive or his contract is that long, Detroit is not a place for top notch FA anyway yet, unless Drummond becomes dominant is not going to be the case, so it wont matter in 2015.

DocRI · Post #11 » by **DocRI** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:16 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:I'm not interested in cheap assets, especially with the increasing cap. We should be going after a starting SF who can defend and shoot. We have expirings to use to make that happen, just so long as we no way in hell also trade away another first round draft pick.

Obvious typo you made there, so I fixed it for ya. :wink:

But seriously, I've got no problem trading for Budinger so long as he comes cheaply enough. Speaking strictly as a floor-spacing-3-point-shooter, he's an upgrade over Singler, Butler, and Datome. And even if he started for us this year, that's no guarantee he'll remain a starter forever; as SVG improves our roster, his skills should translate well into a bench role.

DetroitPistons · Post #12 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:23 pm

DocRI wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:I'm not interested in cheap assets, especially with the increasing cap. We should be going after a starting SF who can defend and shoot. We have expirings to use to make that happen, just so long as we no way in hell also trade away another first round draft pick.

Obvious typo you made there, so I fixed it for ya.

But seriously, I've got no problem trading for Budinger so long as he comes cheaply enough. Speaking strictly as a floor-spacing-3-point-shooter, he's an upgrade over Singler, Butler, and Datome. And even if he started for us this year, that's no guarantee he'll remain a starter forever; as SVG improves our roster, his skills should translate well into a bench role.

So are you opposed to trading a first rounder? If SVG turns this roster into a .500 team (something I think he will do this season) I think it would be wise to package a first rounder or two to bring in a SF who can take us to the next level, especially since those picks won't be lottery picks anyways.

ComboGuardCity · Post #13 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:27 pm

If anything, giving up too much value for a guy like Green is a band aid solution. I love Jeff Green's game, but we'd have to give up a first for him and it's not worth it.

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tmorgan · Post #14 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:29 pm

We DRAFTED Chase and traded him in a draft day deal, did we not?

Ahh, more regrets from the Dumars era.

BadMofoPimp · Post #15 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:31 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:If anything, giving up too much value for a guy like Green is a band aid solution. I love Jeff Green's game, but we'd have to give up a first for him and it's not worth it.

What if Pistons are a playoff team and Pick is somewhere between 16-22 area?

DetroitPistons · Post #16 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:35 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:If anything, giving up too much value for a guy like Green is a band aid solution. I love Jeff Green's game, but we'd have to give up a first for him and it's not worth it.

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A mid to late first rounder for a guy who is a big athletic defender, great rebounder for his position, and can knock down a 3 and who is also pretty decent at getting his own shot is a small price to pay imo. If it was a lotto pick then I would be with you but a mid to late first rounder and expirings would be a very fair deal for both sides and could vault us into the second round of the playoffs.

Jennings/Augustin
Caldwell-Pope/Meeks
Green/Caldwell-Pope/Butler
Smith/Monroe
Drummond/Monroe

That team is very good defensively, a great rebounding team, well balanced, and pretty deep.

DetroitPistons · Post #17 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:38 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:If anything, giving up too much value for a guy like Green is a band aid solution. I love Jeff Green's game, but we'd have to give up a first for him and it's not worth it.

What if Pistons are a playoff team and Pick is somewhere between 16-22 area?

Exactly, and if we made that deal I would be shocked if we weren't a playoff team with SVG at the helm.

Green/Pressey for Bynum/Jerebko/first rounder would be fair.

tmorgan · Post #18 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:40 pm

Green would obviously be an upgrade for us (that's not a very high bar to clear at this point), but he's nowhere near as good as you guys are making him out to be.

To wit:

Career 44% shooter, despite being 6'9"
Career 34% 3P shooter, which is OK but hardly "good"
5.1 rebounds a game in nearly 33 minutes a game is not impressive
Doesn't get steals or blocks; I'd always heard he was an unimpressive defender
Averages more turnovers than assists

DetroitPistons · Post #19 » by **DetroitPistons** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:41 pm

Another thought is that SVG wants Budinger just to fill in for Meeks while he is out. He could be our backup SG rather than a SF.

Pharaoh · Post #20 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:41 pm

Green is the new Wilson Chandler it seems.

I don't understand the fascination with mediocre wings.

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