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2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#1 » by blueadams » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:24 am

Step 1: I'd do everything I could to orchestrate a Greg Monroe for Ryan Anderson swap. The Pelicans seem insistent on using Anthony Davis at the 4. Greg Monroe would be a big upgrade for them at the 5 over Omer Asik. Monroe's 24. He's -- really -- one of the best all-around centers in the league, already. He's been a solid teammate his entire career. He's a New Orleans native, and likely to sign long-term there. I think this is a deal the Pelicans would be very interested in. Especially earlier in the season. Anderson only has one year left on his contract anyways. He's had his health problems in the past, but I'd be willing to take on the risk (and I don't think Monroe has a long-term place here, anyways). SVG's offense needs a shooter at the 4, period. Ryan Anderson's the best shooting 4 in the game, period. He's also only 26 years old. And a solid teammate.

Step 2: I'd do everything I could to trade Josh Smith. He's a hell of a player. There could end up being a bidding war amongst contenders, and we might actually be able to get something in return of value. But I'd be willing to accept nothing. For his talent, his $14M salary really isn't that terrible. And his contract only has two years left anyways. Like I said above, SVG's system needs a shooter at this position.

Step 3: I'd do everything I could to trade Brandon Jennings. This might be harder. But one more season at $8.3M isn't impossible to move. I simply feel that D.J. Augustine is the better point, here.

Step 4: I'd do everything I could to sign Goran Dragic. Point guard that can slide to the two on occasion. Great, great pick and roll player for Drummond. Great shooter. Decent enough defender. 28. Solid teammate. Should be a relative bargain for how talented he is. And we'd have virtually unlimited cap-space to work with.

Step 5: I'd do everything I could to sign Arron Afflalo. Wing that can play either the 2 or 3, fine. Great outside shooter. Decent enough defender. Solid teammate. 28. Player option at the end of the season. He'll be looking for security.

Step 6: I'd do everything I could to sign Wesley Matthews. Even more underrated than Dragic and Afflalo. Great outside shooter. Decent defender. Solid teammate. UFA at the end of the season. Could really explode into an All-Star here, given the green-light to shoot a little more. Only 27.

Step 7/8: I'd use our first round pick and remaining dollars to add a good wing and big.

2015 Team:

C: Drummond
PF: Anderson
SF: Afflalo
SG: Matthews
PG: Dragic

Bench: Augustine, Meeks, 1st rd. pick, FA, Butler?
Reserves: Dinwiddie, KCP, Martin, Mitchell, ?

That team could really, really spread the court out. Open up things down low for Drummond, who's becoming a real scoring force down low, and a great passer out of jams in the post as well. Also would really open up things for the two-man pick-and-roll game between Dragic and Dre. Lot of really great, underrated, hard-working players on that squad.
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#2 » by MotownMadness » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:10 am

Couple things,

Smith is not a hell of a player on a ok contract and no contender will want him

Not sure Monroe is a big upgrade over Asik

Suns wont let Dragic go
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#3 » by Warspite » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:51 am

Can the Op explain where he gets the 35 mil in cap space to sign those FAs?
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#4 » by No-Man » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:09 am

blueadams wrote: Greg Monroe would be a big upgrade for them at the 5 over Omer Asik. Monroe's 24

Monroe is not only worse, he is way worse than Asik and also worse than Anderson.

You will have to burn a pick to dump Jennings, like the Rockets did with Lin last summer and many others before, is the only way.

Bidding war for Josh Smith?

The whole post is a bunch of nonsense.
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Post#5 » by blueadams » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:16 pm

Bunch of short-sighted, quick-speaking jerks on this board.

Say New Orleans accepts a deal of Anderson for Monroe, KCP, future pick, expiring FA(s), whatever. Very, very possible. Even WITH Smith and Jennings, there'll be about $20.1M of cap space heading into the season. Even if Dragic requires a max contract ($17.6M), you can get him.

C: Drummond ----- Mitchell
PF: Anderson ----- Smith
SF: 1st. rd. ----- Martin
SG: Meeks ----- Jennings
PG: Dragic ----- Augustine ----- Dinwiddie

THAT's a much better team, even without moving Smith and Jennings. IF you can move them, there's another $22+M in cap space. Afflalo, Matthews, Green. Should be able to get at least 2 of them with it.
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Post#6 » by Whisper » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:29 pm

blueadams wrote:Bunch of short-sighted, quick-speaking jerks on this board.

Say New Orleans accepts a deal of Anderson for Monroe, KCP, future pick, expiring FA(s), whatever. Very, very possible. Even WITH Smith and Jennings, there'll be about $20.1M of cap space heading into the season. Even if Dragic requires a max contract ($17.6M), you can get him.

C: Drummond ----- Mitchell
PF: Anderson ----- Smith
SF: 1st. rd. ----- Martin
SG: Meeks ----- Jennings
PG: Dragic ----- Augustine ----- Dinwiddie

THAT's a much better team, even without moving Smith and Jennings. IF you can move them, there's another $22+M in cap space. Afflalo, Matthews, Green. Should be able to get at least 2 of them with it.


With the projected cap bump, about a third of the teams will have generous amounts of cap space. Unless we turn things around and truly are on the upswing, the very good players are going to look at the very good teams first.
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Post#7 » by blueadams » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 pm

I'd be the stupid team that gave Dragic a max deal. Him being able to play the 1 and 2 gives you a nice 3-man guard rotation between he, Meeks and Augustine. Shoots lights out. One of the best pick-and-roll players in the game (Drummond). Decent enough defender. Solid teammate. Need a stud perimeter player like him. Money seems to be quite important to him.. Euro, no ties to any NBA city. And as underrated as he is, I don't think he'll get a max deal from anyone else.

Assuming you can make some sort of Monroe for Anderson swap. I'd focus the rest of the off-season's attention on the wing. 1st rd. pick. And if you can move Smith/Jennings.. I'm looking at guys like Afflalo, Matthews and Green to fill their cap space.

C: Drummond, MLE(?), Mitchell
PF: Anderson, Smith(?)
SF: 1st rd.-LeVert(?), KCP(?), Martin
SG: Meeks, Jennings(?)
PG: Dragic, Augustine, Dinwiddie
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#8 » by Notanoob » Sat Nov 1, 2014 5:18 pm

Just for future reference, assuming that we decline Caron Butler's option, we'll have $42,197,793 committed (including $1,356,146 for Aaron Gray and $1,270,964 for Cartier Martin-what pointless contracts). We'll still have Monroe's Bird Rights too IIRC, but we won't have matching rights, so we'll need to work fast when it comes to signing other free agents if we want to keep him.
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#9 » by kurtis48239 » Sun Nov 2, 2014 9:07 pm

Fischella wrote:
blueadams wrote: Greg Monroe would be a big upgrade for them at the 5 over Omer Asik. Monroe's 24

Monroe is not only worse, he is way worse than Asik and also worse than Anderson.

You will have to burn a pick to dump Jennings, like the Rockets did with Lin last summer and many others before, is the only way.

Bidding war for Josh Smith?

The whole post is a bunch of nonsense.

We sho0uld be able to dump jennings next season as he will be an expiring contract,no need to use a pick.Not to mentio we could ride it out with him as a backup and let him go,if we decided to go after another pg.
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#10 » by FluffySockNinja » Sun Nov 2, 2014 9:23 pm

I think I'd be on the phone with the Thunder trying to swing a deal for Reggie Jackson either at the deadline or off-season.
We can offer him a starting role and starters money both things he wants.
I think there are enough assets on this team to possibly get him at the deadline.

Question being would you move KCP for him at the deadline?

I'd also try and squeeze Tony Snell out of Chicago as I consider him a poor mans Jimmy Bulter who could solidify our SG/SF position especially if we were to let KCP go.

Meeks is likely going on o start when he gets back from injury anyway so KCPs value is probably at its highest right now.

Plus I really like Kentavious so I'd hate for him to go but it may be necessary to improve the team.



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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#11 » by Ghost » Sun Nov 2, 2014 9:42 pm

I don't know what I really think about Reggie Jackson being a starting NBA PG. :/


And this thread is just a little bit early..
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#12 » by Warspite » Sun Nov 2, 2014 10:15 pm

Whisper wrote:
blueadams wrote:Bunch of short-sighted, quick-speaking jerks on this board.

Say New Orleans accepts a deal of Anderson for Monroe, KCP, future pick, expiring FA(s), whatever. Very, very possible. Even WITH Smith and Jennings, there'll be about $20.1M of cap space heading into the season. Even if Dragic requires a max contract ($17.6M), you can get him.

C: Drummond ----- Mitchell
PF: Anderson ----- Smith
SF: 1st. rd. ----- Martin
SG: Meeks ----- Jennings
PG: Dragic ----- Augustine ----- Dinwiddie

THAT's a much better team, even without moving Smith and Jennings. IF you can move them, there's another $22+M in cap space. Afflalo, Matthews, Green. Should be able to get at least 2 of them with it.


With the projected cap bump, about a third of the teams will have generous amounts of cap space. Unless we turn things around and truly are on the upswing, the very good players are going to look at the very good teams first.


New TV deal wont affect the cap untill 2017
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#13 » by Whisper » Mon Nov 3, 2014 1:12 pm

Warspite wrote:
Whisper wrote:
blueadams wrote:Bunch of short-sighted, quick-speaking jerks on this board.

Say New Orleans accepts a deal of Anderson for Monroe, KCP, future pick, expiring FA(s), whatever. Very, very possible. Even WITH Smith and Jennings, there'll be about $20.1M of cap space heading into the season. Even if Dragic requires a max contract ($17.6M), you can get him.

C: Drummond ----- Mitchell
PF: Anderson ----- Smith
SF: 1st. rd. ----- Martin
SG: Meeks ----- Jennings
PG: Dragic ----- Augustine ----- Dinwiddie

THAT's a much better team, even without moving Smith and Jennings. IF you can move them, there's another $22+M in cap space. Afflalo, Matthews, Green. Should be able to get at least 2 of them with it.


With the projected cap bump, about a third of the teams will have generous amounts of cap space. Unless we turn things around and truly are on the upswing, the very good players are going to look at the very good teams first.


New TV deal wont affect the cap untill 2017


There is a lot of talk that the "new money" will be phased in starting this coming summer.
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#14 » by Warspite » Mon Nov 3, 2014 7:56 pm

Whisper wrote:
Warspite wrote:
Whisper wrote:
With the projected cap bump, about a third of the teams will have generous amounts of cap space. Unless we turn things around and truly are on the upswing, the very good players are going to look at the very good teams first.


New TV deal wont affect the cap untill 2017


There is a lot of talk that the "new money" will be phased in starting this coming summer.



They would only do that so to spread out the increase so your looking at breaking ihe increase into 25-33% increases. It still doesnt create 30 mil in cap space. Its more like a 6 mil increase every yr instead of 20 mil in 1 yr.
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Re: 2015 OFF-SEASON PLAN 

Post#15 » by theBigLip » Mon Nov 3, 2014 9:40 pm

Hard to talk about the summer of 2015 when we still need to hit the trade deadline in February and then also the draft. But...

We need to figure out our PF position. I'd prefer to have neither Monroe or Smith at PF, but we absolutely must move one of them.

Then we need to figure out SF. We haven't had a good scorer there since Prince was in his prime.

I think we are okay at C, SG, and even PG, although that is what I'd work on next.

If we could get an All Star SF, and we knew we could keep Monroe, I'd be willing to move Drummond.

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