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Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:39 pm
by Natopher
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Not sure why we made this trade, TBH. I'm not a big Mitchell fan, but idk what role Tolliver would fill on this team. We need a backup C more than another PF.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:42 pm
by need4detroit
As long as Tolliver doesn't look high all the time, should be an upgrade.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:44 pm
by Phenomenonsense
Dude always rained threes from what I remember of him in Minny. Welcome addition.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:44 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Wow, interesting trade. Couldn't we have thrown Jennings in as a freebie!? You know how Phoenix loves their point guards.
Tolliver is immediately the best stretch 4 in Detroit. This will give Stan a better idea of how Drummond and offense will function with a 4 that the defense has to respect.
Suddenly, Jerebko sees his minutes disappear yet again. lol. Poor fella.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:46 pm
by Natopher
ImHeisenberg wrote:Wow, interesting trade. Couldn't we have thrown Jennings in as a freebie!? You know how Phoenix loves their point guards.
Tolliver is immediately the best stretch 4 in Detroit. This will give Stan a better idea of how Drummond and offense will function with a 4 that the defense has to respect.
Suddenly, Jerebko sees his minutes disappear yet again. lol. Poor fella.
I'm actually wondering if this trade means we're going to start Jerebko and Drummond, and bring in Tolliver and Monroe to back them up. Otherwise, if we start Monroe and Drummond, our only backup C is Joel Anthony.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:46 pm
by RasheedTupac
Great trade! We actually got a stretch 4 now
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:46 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Phenomenonsense wrote:Dude always rained threes from what I remember of him in Minny. Welcome addition.
That's pretty much the one skill he has and has kept him in the NBA because PF's who can hit the 3 with consistency are a rare commodity.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:48 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Natopher wrote:ImHeisenberg wrote:Wow, interesting trade. Couldn't we have thrown Jennings in as a freebie!? You know how Phoenix loves their point guards.
Tolliver is immediately the best stretch 4 in Detroit. This will give Stan a better idea of how Drummond and offense will function with a 4 that the defense has to respect.
Suddenly, Jerebko sees his minutes disappear yet again. lol. Poor fella.
I'm actually wondering if this trade means we're going to start Jerebko and Drummond, and bring in Tolliver and Monroe to back them up. Otherwise, if we start Monroe and Drummond, our only backup C is Joel Anthony.
Doubtful. I'd predict Monroe and Drum start and Tolly is the first big off the bench. Jerebko probably splits minutes with Tolly, and Anthony may get some burn as well.
If they started Tolliver, I think SVG would just be unabashedly tanking. The dude really doesn't have any basketball skills outside of his shooting. We'd be absolutely murdered on defense.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:53 pm
by Natopher
I suppose the main question after this trade is are we still trying to make the playoffs. It's kind of a weird trade if we aren't. We just took on over 2 million more than we would've had if we'd kept Mitchell.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:55 pm
by coordinator0
I like it. Tolliver has a $3 million non-guaranteed contract for next season which is similar to Butler's. They could make an interesting package in the offseason for a team looking to shed salary immediately.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:01 pm
by Pistons888
Could this indicate that Jerebko is on the way out? Why bring in another stretch 4 when Jerebko has been playing well and is slated for more minutes?
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:07 pm
by mattao313
Maybe JJ gonna get more minutes at the 3? I really don't understand this trade tho.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:10 pm
by Ghost
BR says Tolliver's second year is 3M, but only 400K is guarenteed.. so if it doesn't work, we can just cut him.
Low risk, potentially decent reward? I guess he'll get some of Josh Smith's minutes. Drummond/Monroe will still get a lot of time next to each other and both will start.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:14 pm
by Han Solo
I like it!
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:14 pm
by MotownMadness
Dont really get it but Mitchell was just a waste of space so its whatever.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:21 pm
by ImHeisenberg
Not sure what people don't get about the trade. It's practically risk-free. Only $400k is guaranteed next season if he's cut.
It gives SVG a cheap way to experiment with Drummond and a stretch 4. Jerebko can shoot the 3 a little, but Tolliver is substantially better at spreading the floor.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:25 pm
by Kilo
Mitchell is crud, but maybe he might be better in up tempo PHX, or they might try him at the three or something. Probably made this move in case of foul trouble to Dre and Moose is needed at the five for the game. Tolliver is a journeyman who will probably exist to push Jerebko for minutes. 96 minutes at the 4 and 5 combined each game, even if Moose and Dre get 32 each that still leaves 32 for Jerebko, Anthony, now Tolliver. I don't think JJ is a 32 mpg player, so now he can play 25ish and the other 10 can go to Tolliver or Anthony or whomever.
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:26 pm
by Hotmayo
I really liked tony mitchells potential. So im not happy with this trade
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:27 pm
by Han Solo
Re: Pistons Trade Tony Mitchell to PHX for Anthony Tolliver
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:28 pm
by Pistons888
ImHeisenberg wrote:Not sure what people don't get about the trade. It's practically risk-free. Only $400k is guaranteed next season if he's cut.
It gives SVG a cheap way to experiment with Drummond and a stretch 4. Jerebko can shoot the 3 a little, but Tolliver is substantially better at spreading the floor.
I understand it. I just get the same feeling I assume I would if we went out and got a starting caliber PF now that Monroe/Drummond is the obvious frontcourt pairing. It just kind of throws off the obvious in that Jerebko would be getting the backup PF minutes seeing as how he has earned it.