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Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:17 am
by czar
''The Knicks are reportedly not looking to deal Amar’e Stoudemire, but the team has had internal discussions about the possibility of reaching a buyout agreement with him so that Stoudemire could try and catch on with a contender, Mark Woods of ESPNNewYork.com reports.''
If this indeed is true, I think the Pistons should explore this opportunity. We all know his health issues from the past, but looking besides that, hes always been a serviceable big that can provide us toughness and experience. I'd be willing to pay him 4m/y and maybe a team option in the second year.
Discuss.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:58 am
by ImHeisenberg
I don't think Amare would view Detroit as a "contender".
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:36 pm
by The Penguin
He's an awful fit for Stan's style as he can't be the rim protecting big in the "4 out" system.
I imagine he'd go to the Clippers so he can be in LA and continue his acting career or back to Phoenix with their training staff.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:37 pm
by Manocad
Good god no
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:38 pm
by mattao313
Manocad wrote:Good god no
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:55 pm
by hoophabit
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:08 pm
by DETermination
He can't shoot 3's and can't play defense. Why would we want him again? We have Tolliver and Jerebko as backup bigs who are both way better fits for the pistons than Amare.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:24 pm
by Redeemed
No thanks. Stat plays no D. Stat doesn't understand D. Stat wouldn't fit in the D.
There's a need for an upgrade at the 3. Our energies should be focused in that area. The rotation of bigs we have with Monroe & Drummond being backed up by Jerebko, Tolliver, and Anthony has served us well. We need to see what can be done about the deficit we have at the 3. Singler is in a horrific slump. Martin is suffering through plant foot. Butler fills in nicely in spot minutes.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:46 pm
by czar
The Penguin wrote:He's an awful fit for Stan's style as he can't be the rim protecting big in the "4 out" system.
I imagine he'd go to the Clippers so he can be in LA and continue his acting career or back to Phoenix with their training staff.
I totally view him differently. I'll admit that I've been a fan of his since his Phx days and one thing I've clearly noticed is his improvement in the defensive end of the game. He no longer gives up defensive position easily as before, and is actually blocking shots despite his deteriorating athleticism. While the lot here thinks hes washed up, I think he still has something to offer. You can't discredit his lowpost and pick roll/pop game because that has been his calling card over the years and we all know how much SVG utilizes screens on his offense. The only knock is his injury problems and his inability to shoot 3's. Other than that he has always had a solid FT and mid-range shooting. All I know is he has been solid in the times I watched him play this season. His numbers 13ppg, 7reb, 1blk and a 19.75 PER in 25mins per game looks good to me. Im sure he would be enticed to join a winning ballclub at restricted minutes to avoid further injuries.
But unfortunately, Im alone in this one
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:51 pm
by czar
Redeemed wrote:No thanks. Stat plays no D. Stat doesn't understand D. Stat wouldn't fit in the D.
There's a need for an upgrade at the 3. Our energies should be focused in that area. The rotation of bigs we have with Monroe & Drummond being backed up by Jerebko, Tolliver, and Anthony has served us well. We need to see what can be done about the deficit we have at the 3. Singler is in a horrific slump. Martin is suffering through plant foot. Butler fills in nicely in spot minutes.
The Nuggets are reportedly shopping Wilson Chandler, and it has also been reported that Chandler has expressed interest in joining the Pistons in the past. I believe hes the one you are looking for
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:02 pm
by Uncle Mxy
Let him cost a playoff series for someone else by banging his hand on something or getting off the bench like a moron.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:06 pm
by Redeemed
czar wrote:Redeemed wrote:No thanks. Stat plays no D. Stat doesn't understand D. Stat wouldn't fit in the D.
There's a need for an upgrade at the 3. Our energies should be focused in that area. The rotation of bigs we have with Monroe & Drummond being backed up by Jerebko, Tolliver, and Anthony has served us well. We need to see what can be done about the deficit we have at the 3. Singler is in a horrific slump. Martin is suffering through plant foot. Butler fills in nicely in spot minutes.
The Nuggets are reportedly shopping Wilson Chandler, and it has also been reported that Chandler has expressed interest in joining the Pistons in the past. I believe hes the one you are looking for
I really like Chandler's skill & versatility, but I'm concerned about his fragility. The hip injury he suffered some years ago seems to be comprising his health in variety of ways (knee, back, etc.). He may have some underlined functional issues that robs him of effectiveness. That being said, "in Arnie we trust" is the franchise motto in Detroit. Maybe Arnie can get Wilson back on track. I'm cautiously intrigued.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:21 pm
by Snakebites
With Monroe and Drummond aboard I don't think there is any room on this roster for another big without reliable range.
Also, what other people said about him not viewing us as a contender. Teams like the Warriors, Grizzlies, Clippers, etc. are contenders. Us? We're a team that's on a hot streak, not one with staying power among the league's elite.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:49 pm
by Sort
Snakebites wrote:With Monroe and Drummond aboard I don't think there is any room on this roster for another big without reliable range.
Also, what other people said about him not viewing us as a contender. Teams like the Warriors, Grizzlies, Clippers, etc. are contenders. Us? We're a team that's on a hot streak, not one with staying power among the league's elite.
I don't know. Pistons strike me as more than a hot streak - not the elite in the East, but ten games strong is simply too long to be just a glitch.
Nobody's talking about Prince. Not sure of his fit, but he's available and would be comfortable coming back - and we do have a need. I'm wondering what Chandler's asking price is though.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:19 pm
by engelbert321
Queue the Michael Scott "No, No, No, NOOOOOOO" Gif.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:47 pm
by theBigLip
Redeemed wrote:No thanks. Stat plays no D. Stat doesn't understand D. Stat wouldn't fit in the D.
There's a need for an upgrade at the 3. Our energies should be focused in that area. The rotation of bigs we have with Monroe & Drummond being backed up by Jerebko, Tolliver, and Anthony has served us well. We need to see what can be done about the deficit we have at the 3. Singler is in a horrific slump. Martin is suffering through plant foot. Butler fills in nicely in spot minutes.
This. Just because Amare is available doesn't mean he would help us. I expect Josh Smith to be available sooon - maybe we can pick him up
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:48 pm
by MrBigShot
Sort wrote:Snakebites wrote:With Monroe and Drummond aboard I don't think there is any room on this roster for another big without reliable range.
Also, what other people said about him not viewing us as a contender. Teams like the Warriors, Grizzlies, Clippers, etc. are contenders. Us? We're a team that's on a hot streak, not one with staying power among the league's elite.
I don't know. Pistons strike me as more than a hot streak - not the elite in the East, but ten games strong is simply too long to be just a glitch.
Nobody's talking about Prince. Not sure of his fit, but he's available and would be comfortable coming back - and we do have a need. I'm wondering what Chandler's asking price is though.
Yeah, this isn't merely a hot streak. We've managed to win games where we haven't shot the ball very well. Past two games we shot it at 33% from deep, 16% against San Antonio, and we shot 40% / 30% from 3 vs Atlanta but managed to stay in the game until the very end. No doubt we will face some adversity throughout the rest of the season as all teams do, but this team is legitimate and we are heading to the playoffs.
I understand where snakebites is coming from though. At this point I don't think we are a contender yet.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:49 pm
by theBigLip
When you look at what SVG has done since he took over - all the additions have been accurate shooters. All the subtractions (Stuckey, Smith) have been volume shot takers. I hope he continues that trend. I don't see Stoudamire fitting in here.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:20 pm
by Billl
I think Amare could help a team still, but I don't think he's a good fit here. He's always been a finisher, not a facilitator. We need bench guys who share the ball and play with energy. We've got plenty of guys who will shoot it.
Re: Amare Stoudemire
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:52 pm
by epheisey
czar wrote:''The Knicks are reportedly not looking to deal Amar’e Stoudemire, but the team has had internal discussions about the possibility of reaching a buyout agreement with him so that Stoudemire could try and catch on with a contender, Mark Woods of ESPNNewYork.com reports.''
If this indeed is true, I think the Pistons should explore this opportunity. We all know his health issues from the past, but looking besides that, hes always been a serviceable big that can provide us toughness and experience. I'd be willing to pay him 4m/y and maybe a team option in the second year.
Discuss.
Are we a contender - No.
A serviceable big that can provide toughness - No.
Do we have cap room to offer him 4m/yr - No.
Would he agree to a contract with a Team Option - No.
