Is there anyone on the 76'rs you would trade our 1st for?

GSR121 · Post #1 » by **GSR121** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:16 am

Rumor has it Philly is willing to trade any player on the team for more first round picks. Here is an article from Forbes about it http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... o-1-picks/

Most teams would be looking to trade for either Noel or Embiid, and I am sure it would take a higher pick than Detroit's to get ether player. Since the Pistons have a young center in Drummond we don't really need either of them any way. But is there another player yoou would be willing to give our first round pick up for? I would be willing to consider our pick for Robert Covington. He is young enough to fit with our core (24) and plays a position of need (sf). He has proven NBA talent and I feel he would be as good or better than anyone left in the draft when we pick.

Would you do it? If not is there a player you would trade for?

joedumars1 · Post #2 » by **joedumars1** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:34 am

I'm not sure. If Noel could play PF and hit the mid range shot, probably, but they probably wouldn't. Covington, idk if I would want to do that, but I have only seen him play us.

Blkbrd671 · Post #3 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:45 am

GSR121 wrote:Rumor has it Philly is willing to trade any player on the team for more first round picks. Here is an article from Forbes about it http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler ... o-1-picks/

Most teams would be looking to trade for either Noel or Embiid, and I am sure it would take a higher pick than Detroit's to get ether player. Since the Pistons have a young center in Drummond we don't really need either of them any way. But is there another player yoou would be willing to give our first round pick up for? I would be willing to consider our pick for Robert Covington. He is young enough to fit with our core (24) and plays a position of need (sf). He has proven NBA talent and I feel he would be as good or better than anyone left in the draft when we pick.

Would you do it? If not is there a player you would trade for?

i say no, Covington's nice, but this draft is loaded with SF's. Covington also i think signed a 2 year?

Pharaoh · Post #4 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:32 am

Obviously Philly would trade anyone on the roster for a first rounder: not many guys worth firsts on that team

Blkbrd671 · Post #5 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:41 am

Pharaoh wrote:Obviously Philly would trade anyone on the roster for a first rounder: not many guys worth firsts on that team

robert convington was our first round pick......in the dleague

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:55 am

Embiid is the only player worth the price of a first at this point. That could change in a year or two.

They have a pathetic roster. I don't care for Noel, and they dropped their only other prospects that showed any promise in McDaniels and MCW.

princeofpalace · Post #7 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:46 pm

No, not a single one. For a team thats placed so much emphasis on draft picks- they don't have much talent- I don't believe that Embiid, Noel or Saric will ever even be all star level players. Embiid could be a solid C, but he's the only one of the 3 I see as an NBA starter.

Liqourish · Post #8 » by **Liqourish** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:58 pm

I wouldn't trade our pick for anyone on their team. And the worst part for Sixer fans, is that their FO hasn't drafted well either, so all these 1st rd picks they want don't build alot of excitement. They are probably the team that is worst off long term, despite not alot of salary commitments.

Kilo · Post #9 » by **Kilo** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:01 pm

Philly is a joke and the league should step in. Hinkie's thinking is keep trading to acquire first round picks until one of those picks becomes a superstar and then start building. So far all his picks - he doesn't see that superstar yet, so he's going to trade them and keep trying to find one. Not to mention Noel will already be in the third year of his rookie deal next season and they'll still be in tank mode. They traded MCW for the Lakers first rounder - but it's top five protected this season and the Lakers are locked in the bottom four realistically, so unless two teams leap frog them by winning the lottery than the Sixers don't get the pick until next season when the Lakers will have Kobe back and spent their $30M in free agency. So basically they traded MCW for a 2016 pick in the 9-15 range.

The Penguin · Post #10 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:05 pm

Hinkie is brilliant from a job preservation standpoint. Promise people some superstar in the future and keep making moves with the "future superstar" as the focal point. What happens if the future superstar never arrives? Hinkie is sipping margaritas on the beach with millions in his bank account.

MrBigShot · Post #11 » by **MrBigShot** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:44 pm

Just Embiid, which they wouldn't be willing to do. I think Hinkie is going the Morey route by acquiring assets and waiting until a potential superstar is available through trade like the Rockets did for Harden or the Knicks did for Melo.

To be completely honest though, he doesn't do it nearly as well as Morey. Traded away KJ and MCW who despite their flaws and inefficiency had potential, and now he has Saric (an unknown), Noel (solid, but not special) and Embiid who is injured and hasn't gotten to play yet.

Embiid and their pick this year (likely one of Okafor/Towns/Mudiay/Russell) are the only aspects of their future that I'd describe as bright right now. The chance to acquire guys like Harden don't come around often, and they shouldn't count on that.

Brt19 · Post #12 » by **Brt19** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:25 pm

Embiid (top 5 - top 10?) and Saric (around 15th) are worth the first. I'm not high on Noel but he's probably worth it as well. Aşık went for a 1st round pick, Noel is younger and was a 5th pick. No idea about Covington, his per 36s seems consistent but he might be having just a breakout year and get worse in next years. A late first might be fair though.

We're currently projected to have 10th pick. Would trade Embiid for that pick because it's a good value but they wouldn't. If we were to pick higher I would focus on fit, which would mean no for me. We don't really need him.

At some point they have to build a team. I don't think MCW will be a star and KJ has a contract problem so it's understandable to trade them but Embiid shouldn't be on the table.

Post #13 » by **theBigLip** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:03 pm

Brt19 wrote:Embiid (top 5 - top 10?) and Saric (around 15th) are worth the first. I'm not high on Noel but he's probably worth it as well.

Pretty much this. I haven't stayed up to date on Saric, but people were raving about him at the draft.

Unless it's Embiid, I think we're better off getting one of the SFs in this draft. It seems like there is a handful that will be late lottery range, so hopefully we do our homework and get the best of the bunch.

The Penguin · Post #14 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:58 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Just Embiid, which they wouldn't be willing to do. I think Hinkie is going the Morey route by acquiring assets and waiting until a potential superstar is available through trade like the Rockets did for Harden or the Knicks did for Melo.

To be completely honest though, he doesn't do it nearly as well as Morey. Traded away KJ and MCW who despite their flaws and inefficiency had potential, and now he has Saric (an unknown), Noel (solid, but not special) and Embiid who is injured and hasn't gotten to play yet.

Embiid and their pick this year (likely one of Okafor/Towns/Mudiay/Russell) are the only aspects of their future that I'd describe as bright right now. The chance to acquire guys like Harden don't come around often, and they shouldn't count on that.

I can't really fault Hinkie for his strategy to build the team, but at the same time it really seems like he's essentially planning for retirement by playing the powerball. First off, what FA superstar is going to want to go to Philly to play for a team that's purposely lost for a couple of seasons? Second, teams aren't exactly willingly trading superstars, when those trades do happen, it's a situation like Love or CP3 where guys are sick of losing and about to walk, why would they be any happier and resign long term on a team with no better capability of winning? That basically puts it all on the draft, in which there are very few sure things. Guys like Lebron and Anthony Davis come along once every 5 years if you are lucky. In instances like Durant, Westbrook or Curry there were guys like Oden and Thabeet who went ahead of them. There are plenty of teams like us, the Kings, the Bucks etc who've gone years between periods of real relevance while trying to build good teams, I really don't like embracing a culture of losing and cashing in every young player who isn't a superstar for more draft picks. This isn't NBA2K, if Kevin Durant is signed long term, no team is trading him regardless of how many first round picks you throw at them.

Ultimately what's there to lose for Hinkie? If his strategy works, he's brilliant. If it fails, he's still banked millions.

Navas · Post #15 » by **Navas** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:22 pm

No. 76ers are so bad even Ted Stepien is shaking his head.

JustinSane · Post #16 » by **JustinSane** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:57 pm

I'd trade the pick for Saric.

DocRI · Post #17 » by **DocRI** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:44 pm

JustinSane wrote:I'd trade the pick for Saric.

A lot depends on where our pick falls and who's left on the board. But IF Saric agreed to come over next year (and that's a BIG IF), then yeah, I'd highly consider it. I'm gonna be greedy and say I don't want to wait on him, though; SVG looks to be putting his team together now, so I don't want to push our development of a young asset back an extra year.

sc8581 · Post #18 » by **sc8581** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:39 am

Considering the bums Philly has been throwing out there they are competitive in most of their games. This tells me they have a coach in place at least, an apple off the Popovich tree.

Ghost · Post #19 » by **Ghost** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:40 pm

I thought I saw yesterday that someone was reporting Embiid could even be up for trade. He hasn't even played a game lmao. I really don't get what they are doing in Philly right now. I don't like judging young players based on how they play in y1 or y2, because they should get better. Look at how KCP has improved.

cochiseuofm · Post #20 » by **cochiseuofm** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:58 pm

No, I would not trade a 1st for anyone else on the 76ers roster.

It's really sad - I'm traveling to Philly for work every week now and usually when I go to a new city I try to catch as many pro sports games as possible. Have absolutely zero interest in going to a 6ers game.